Mister Defense

Not fact based? In every one of this three examples over the last three years once the Bills changed their philosophy, and focused much more on the run, they turned their seasons completely around in mid season two times--and then last season speaks for itself, an entire season where the run was not just an afterthought, scared almost no one, like it was under dorsey. You can have your opinion, but for most objective observers the Bills changing, committing to the run, was the catalyst each time. In fact, that is one of the main reasons incompetent dorsey was fired---and Brady's most obvious change, clearly, was running more, adding more diversity to the running game, and almost never going away from that. It is what our great coach wanted, what he got, and then in last year we saw the result of what happens doing that for an entire year. One of the most balanced teams in NFL history, the first ever with both 30 rushing and 30 passing touchdowns ever, leading to the most points scored in the entire league--and the most ever scored by the Bills, and Josh Allen finally won the MVP. Etcetera etcetera. The changes in the running game were an essential, vital element in those turn arounds and in last season's record breaking offensive success. Yup, Singletarry was a good back then, and when they finally started using him more, after the Tampa loss, ending the committee approach that worked against his strengths, he really shined. Last year we saw what could now happen with that same approach, but now with a much more dynamic back, a much faster back, with elite vision--and making the run a much more important part of the offense for the entire season. See the bold above, please. That is the difference, and why he likely will be signed to an extension You comically parse and use stats, in this half of these game... and ignore the important ones, that do not fit your (made up already) mindset. And, let me guess again, the concept of "complimentary football" once set you flying over the edge. What you are saying, Thurman, is that without your contributions in the 1990s, the Bills would have been just as good, no problem, and that that the great running game, year after year, with one of the best backs in NFL history, thank you!, was not that vital. Bizarre that you can say this, after your running and receiving was the engine that seemed to make it all work so well..

i agree but he cannot be so focused on that that when a player gets hot in a game it stops him from feeding him the ball, and again and again and again... he did do that last year, but sometimes not see: AFC Championship Game Cook was on fire, not stoppable. Feed him more and then the rest would have opened up more too, as KC would change things to stop him McD seems to feel the way most of us do about that game, it seems, so that is a good sign--he is a man who does not forget and learns from the past

yup i think diversity has just been banned anyway

Every time the Bills have started to focus more on the running game they have become almost unbeatable. A few years ago after they lost to Tampa, were at 7-6 when they did so, and then ran more than any other team becoming the best running team in the league. They did not lose again. And then, after the great firing of dismal dorsey, well, just see above--almost the same exact thing, but they lost one game, the overtime game in Phili. And then last year, thankfully an entire year where the running game was sharply focused on from beginning to end. The result? Best offense in the NFL, the best offense in Bills' history, and the best year ever for our superstar QB, and his first MVP. Those are not coincidences. No way should--or will--the Bills let Cook go, the elite back they have searched for for years and someone just getting started. Beane is not dumb.

Of course, or Beane is as dumb as those he is accurately calling out as such. But it will likely not come to that. it seems to violate their culture, of treating their players as men, as people. That is likely why Beane and McD have never done it. And the Bills in general almost never use the franchise tag. Just five times ever, never under Beane, and the last time was in 2016 for Cordy Glenn. Cook will get his just reward--Josh Allen will see to it. It will now all be done behind the scenes though. No way does he let Cook get away, his Thurman Thomas, and a vital piece of the puzzle that he has never had before. No Way. As you never get rid of an elite player you have been searching for for years--for a few million dollars. And now even more likely this happens--as the Bills are about to save tens of millions with their impressive group of young, skilled, (and inexpensive) defensive talent.

The draft should never be about getting a hodge podge of players at almost every position. I cannot imagine a successful team ever doing that, just making sure they get one of these, one of those, and that position--even when it is not a need, and does not address a weak area related to starting position or needed depth. If Beane did that he would need to look in the mirror when he used the word "dumb". The draft should be about sharply improving those areas, as needed. And when you have clear and obvious needs, go at it hard and well--and consistently. Just like the Bills did with cornerbacks and the defensive line. The Bills already have one of the best running back groups in the entire league, with a super fast, young dynamic superstar with great vision, toughness and receiving ability, an MJD clone bowling ball backup who looked fantastic last year when given the opportunity, and "the best third down back in the league" ++ They got the best players they can get to turn the weak areas into strong areas, and using all extra draft capital to make it happen. That is exactly what they did, and it just happens to be exactly what I wanted, called for. So, Beane is a genius! 4 of their draft picks were mocked to different teams--in the first round. I have never seen anything even close to that in all my years as a Bills fan. Looks like a master class in drafting. Soon we will start to see if it's also one in scouting. I am thinking it will be.

And I have not read the entire thread, as it's growing to fast to keep up with it, but so far have not read one of the most important facts about last year, and his 8 YPC stat. His offensive coordinator last year, his third in the league, when many players start to come into their own.. was KEN DORSEY. Someone who, as I have said before the Cleveland hire, should never be an offensive coordinator in the NFL again, and that the only thing he should be permitted to do on on an NFL sideline is give Gatorade to the players. And even that is only with extensive supervision, extra training, and if he signs something saying he will never directly speak to any player ever. Or make eye contact with them.

What the heck are you talking about?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? BoM simply referred to some of the high praise Moore had received from some NFL folks, including Zierlien's comment comparing him to Brown, and you say that? He added something very relevant, timely, to this conversation. What did you add? Zero--as it has no legitimacy. (Maybe take a cue from this type of post?) An extremely telling, monumentally common way that the haters go about their business, as loose with the facts (and reason) now as anything I have ever seen on this board in my over two decades on here. I would bet a lot that is what one would find out you are with just a little time reading your former posts. This post should stand out to all who read that complete garbage; worthless. Yeah, so not worth a response, I get it, but no way can he just get away with that misrepresentation. With his last three words It is as if he is holding a mirror up and staring right into it

Great; sharp, clear, objective analysis of this. The kind of take those who believe your quote (now in bold above) will completely ignore, but may even bash, as they cannot compete with it, have zero of this clarity, insight, and most of all, objectivity. Needed, and really well said from beginning to end. But I just checked your activity--WTF!? You need to start posting MORE! The board can really use these kinds of takes right now, to counter the irrational, have no reason at all posters you so easily put in their place at the end. How can anything in your personal life possibly be more important than doing what's right by the Bils? So stop being so selfish and please get on board.

I love Moore's ability to separate, his route running, and most of all the way he seems to so easily turn on the after burners once the ball is n his hands, no matter where he is on the field. Can turn that speed on in the blink of an eye. At 24, I am assuming that he still has the dynamic quality, hoping: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRr4yBqyFnI I don't think any other receiver currently on the Bills has this specific set of skills. Beane is providing excellent diversity in the wide receiver room. As this seems to be not just another player, another wideout, but another specific piece of the puzzle..

Completely unfair and very poor analysis--the Bills in only 2 of the top 10 NFL games next year?!?! Nonsense. It should be at least 6, and as high as 8, 9... In fact, maybe they are in all 10--this would not surprise any of us who have been paying attention. 100% RIGGED.

Absolutely not, I can guarantee that. You are waaaaayyy off... It would be one of the worst groups of wide receivers to ever play in the NFL, historically awful, pathetic, dismal, and they would despise Beane even more. (Yes, that is possible somehow.) And this despite the Bills' offense again being one of the best offenses in the NFL, maybe the best again, even if they break all the Bills' and NFL records they broke last year, and even if Josh wins the NFL MVP again. They will still be outraged, furious. And calling for Beane's head, of course. (And a significant part of their reaction, as predicted above, is sadly not even exaggeration.)

A 2nd round pick in the 2021 draft 34th player taken in that draft Has played for one of the most dysfunctional offenses in the NFL since drafted. 4.35 speed, "roadrunner speed" as seen above. Beep, Beep! , as Steve Spagnola tries to stop him... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iWvedIhWjM Nice move, with big upside. Beane is the man, will be the NFL executive of the year this year.

Duh. But is this a trick question??

Their venom makes it hard to stay on this forum; relentless, using that and their profound ignorance to take over thread after thread after thread... Like Beane said, "Dumb".

I had heard that about Walker, a two year team captain, and of an SEC school, playing against some of the best teams in college. But I had not yet heard that for Jackson, a steal in this draft, and Strong. Thank you! Excellent news, and the good news should keep on coming, as things will get rolling soon.. I think the front office and scouting staff left no stones unturned this year. Think we all want a Super Bowl? Imagine how they feel, out there on the road, year after year, living in hotels, working tirelessly. They likely want to get Josh Allen and the Bills and Buffalo the players to make them champions more than anyone outside of the team and coaches--it is their life's work.

Excellent, sharp and succinct analysis of this very interesting data he put together. It makes me look forward to other analysis of this data, such as contrasting it with the defensive draft expenditures. Etcetera.

I am surprised you put this out, after having read many of your comments in other threads, bashing the offense and the Bills and Beane's commitment to it so voraciously. So, thanks. Pretty brave. As it shows the absurdity of so much of the hate and bashing from that small but prolific group: 1. The top ten teams which have, according to your own analysis, spent the most draft capital on offense since 2018 are: #1 Chicago New England Titans jets Chargers Houston Raiders Pittsburgh Carolina Denver I think that is another example of how ridiculous, and non fact based, the argument is by those who are hating so much on Beane and the Bills. And their twisting of statistics, which makes it soo easy to refute what they say. Only one good offense in that entire bunch, Houston, and that for only 1 year actually. If anyone wants us to join that high powered offense club, with a slew of the worst offenses in the NFL now, and in recent memory, go right ahead. But my team will not join in. Thankfully. We heard our team's fearless leader mock those who want them to do this just yesterday. 2. I, and all other Bills fans, will be happy that the Bills, in the bottom ten of your statistical analysis, are instead in the same club with: San Francisco Miami Rams Buffalo Detroit Eagles Kansas City Cleveland Tampa Dallas This group, the Bills' group, instead includes some of the best offenses in the NFL and the three most recent Super Bowl winners. If I was looking forward to playing offense and waiting to be chosen in the school yard, I would cry (if I was 8 ) if I was chosen by almost any team in the first group, and be ecstatic if it was almost any of these teams, It would be interesting to continue the analysis--why did this not show what you thought it would likely show? Why did it actually show the opposite of that? As the best and worst offenses almost across the board are at the opposite ends of the spectrum of what you expected, and likely wanted to help support your argument. Thanks for the data, and for the work involved. Hopefully it changed your perspective, at least a little, showing the absurdity of one of the main arguments against Beane and the Bills' dedication to the offense. It should confuse the bashers. And shut up a bunch of them. Not.

I think this is a good way to look at it for it, overall. As the first line above is probably what happens that is most frustrating, when threads are taken over by people out to change the direction into something else, something often extremely negative and with nothing more than a their irrational whims and emotion to 'guide' them. Being on this board more lately, however, I have noticed that it happens surprisingly often. But also that there are only about a 10 or so posters (and most can name a few right now...) who are the main culprits, often waiting for threads get established, and then coming in to disrupt, bash, and do the ultra over the top hating. That small number should give some hope that we can eventually overcome these scoundrels that diminish the experience of this otherwise great site. What posters ourselves can do is just ignore those posters then, and don't answer their ultra negative, I have the answer anyway, unhinged questions--those are hallmarks of several of the most prolific haters, are very very common. (They cannot have an actual discussion, often have no leg to stand on, so do that.) The problem is that I have found that is hard to do as an individual when you see someone attacking in such a consistently vicious, unhinged manner, as you want to defend your team from the miscreants, and so it is even harder to do as a collective for the same reason. But we should do some things, as I have found out that there are actually many posters who simply had enough of the haters and their desire to dominate the forum and have left for good, or for long periods of time. That is very sad. But it should motivate us to do something too.

Soo good to hear his blunt words this morning, not caring that this was not what they had planned for. And the fact that he called the hate dumb, as it is, and laid out why it was. Beane is the most straight forward, pull no punches, blunt leader of the Bills we have had in my lifetime. Another great quality of the man. I think the reason the haters are so devastated has nothing to do with the WR thing--I think they realize this big, sharp, focused defensive swing by Beane, and McDermott too, means they are likely going to be here for years to come. Great news for the Bills fans on this forum--but rock their world devastation for the haters.

So, why have a poll then, as whatever the outcome was you have the point you wanted to make and you won't even honor or give credence to the results. But you are consistent--same kind of high quality OP here as the one you started on wide receivers a few days ago, just as thoughtful and objective. Makes me regret deleting my early morning response on there, thinking it was too harsh. It may have been just right actually..

Someone recently told me that they really start going during this time of year, and into May and June. Is that the case as you usually see it? It would make sense if that is the case. As without any games, or pregames, or practice reports, such as we have from July to the end of the season, they are acting like fat kids in a free candy store. Without the concrete football things that I mention above, they feel they can now just make up anything they want, da*n all the relevant facts, logic, and anything measured or rational. Instead, their uncanny hate drives them to a new lunacy, thinking it is okay now if they turn this board into a free for all of extreme bashing and hate. So I completely understand the OP's intent, to try to have the moderators reign them, corral them. It won't happen, but will take the rest of the board standing up to them. The good thing is there are not really many of them, relative to the members on here--they are just a group that is extremely prolific, so it makes it seem like there are more than there actually are. The Bills had the best offense in the NFL last year, the best in Bills' history, and the most balanced in NFL history with 30 rushing and 30 passing touchdowns for the first time ever in the NFL etcetera etcetera... But almost every single one of the haters would clearly use last year's super neglected offense, and the fact that Beane did not fix that dismal mess with this draft, that offense that Beane almost completely ignores, could care less about, as grounds in itself for firing him. One of the craziest things I have ever heard from a group of adults. Beane got it rignt today; very glad he said it--just plain dumb. Love how straight forward and blunt he is, like he was talking directly to... I am also a proponent of getting a burner at wide receiver, a missing element in an otherwise kick as* offense. But this hate has nothing at all to do with that, it is just a vehicle to spew their hate. If not this topic, if the Bills had drafted a premier wideout in the first round, is there any doubt in almost anyone's mind reading this that there is a 100% chance they would do the same thing with a completely different topic? I have none at all, a certainty.

Duh! At the very least it is extremely easy to predict their reactions to almost any move Beane makes or McDermott, for that matter.. Soooo consistent...

it should be like a "duh", what you say above. But when all one sees is red and metaphorical daggers when they think of a man, no amount of reason or fact will sway them. This reaction by that tiny group of hate posters is a telling and seminal example of that. We are trying to persuade people with our reasons and facts when those are almost always irrelevant to them, a non starter. More likely we can convince our pets, I think. Or this stapler sitting on my desk right now.

I am urging all posters to have some fun with this poll and just vote offensive line, like I did, as QB is not an option. Or it will be another super crazy, I despise Beane, loathe him, want to hit him over the head with proverbial sledge hammers thread. Most would agree the Bills need a speedy wide receiver to blow the tops off the defense, but if you read Pete's last OP on WR it, not surprisingly, became what I say in the sentence above. This one will be more of the same, so let's call it for what it is, what it will be, before it gets too far. The Bills had the best offense in the NFL last year, and one of the best of all time. It was the most balanced offense ever, with 30 passing TDs and 30 rushing touchdowns, the 2nd most (1st?) in points per drive in NFL histrory--and Josh was the MVP of the league, like he was the year before (but just was not voted as such). The wide receiver I want, and that so many others do, is simply the last piece in the almost perfect offensive puzzle that Beane and his coaches have put together, one developed diligently, with significant purpose and direction, each step of the way. Possibly not getting that piece this off season cannot be a reason for any sensible folks to somehow then make the case that Beane blows it, and big time, when it comes to the Bills' offense. Best in the NFL last year, and the best the Bills have ever had--and that is saying a lot. But the usual Beane haters are being more bold and loose with the facts than I have ever seen them previously--and that is saying a lot...saying Beane neglects the offense, does not give it the proper tools etcetera etcetera etcetera...... Yup, doing what so many find so distasteful in that small, but aggressive bunch of bashers. But this time it is even more outrageous than ever, just spewing nonsense that cannot be supported, so is not, as their hate glasses won't let them see it any other way. Beane hatred at its most obvious and its most unsupported in recent memory.