The Dean
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My point was, if the girls family decided to fight this they just might find that some (MANY?) of their very holy heterosexual parents (and/or administrators) do indeed violate the policy. They also might find the school does little (nothing?) to find out if that is the case.
IMO, that would make for fun viewing on Court TV...or just plain fun to follow in the papers.
(In the above "might" = "undoubtedly would")
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I'm dumbfounded (please notice "founded" after "dumb"). didn't you just post:
"Which pretty much states that if both parents are heteros shacking up with other people - they would face similar consequences." ?????????????????
THAT is in direct conflict, or so their policy states. Track the adultorers down. BURN the WITCH!
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Well, the girl's court case should be a doozy. Imagine if/when she gets a PI to dig up all the adultory dirt on parents whose children are in the school (perhaps the valedictorian) and those involved with the school admin. Then her laywers show how the school did nothing to investigate hetero-parents. (Of course, this is all speculation.) I smell big ratings for Court TV!
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I am defending this school's right to set forth its own curriculum and admission policy based upon its interpretation of religious texts. They put forth a set of reasonable guidelines and they were violated. I suggested a possible rationale for their decisions. I'm sure there are many other reasons behind their admission policy that I haven't thought about.
Those women chose to ignore those policies plain and simple.
I have always found it quite amusing how people who obviously don't subscribe to Christian teachings are hell bent on telling them how to conduct their business.
I think the disagreement here is on whether the guidelines were "reasonable". I don't thik they are...you do. To discriminate against a girl based on her parents lifestyle (not hers) is not reasonable, IMO. I would be REALLY MAD if they get any gov't assistance.
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Now THIS is weird.
In a post on this thread Ed said someting like:
"The Dean is right"
I was in the process of replying to Ed...to warn him of the dangers of making a statement like that and lo and behold...that post is gone!
Either Ed, or SDS or an intelligent Mod decided to eliminate the post and save Ed the embarrassment of haveing to live with that statement. To whoever deleted Ed's post:
Good Work!
(intelligent Mod?????)
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Unfortunately Ed, I do not think you are capable of rationale discussion on this topic. You pretty much read and twist words at your whim and the only thing it leads to is a pointless argument.
Like I said, and you ignored, I used the phrase "a certain set of teachings" on purpose. That school apparently has decided to take a particular stand on gay lifestyles. No one in this thread has said that gay people can't live moral lives, since clearly the term "moral" is ambiguous. But you chose to say that to be argumentative...
That still doesn't justify their discrimination toward the girl. It's her parent's lifestyle they are against...but they hold it against her. There are many Catholic schools who accept Jewish students. Clearly Catholisism doesn't accept many of the Jewish teachings.
To think there's not more here than what you suggest is very naive.
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There analogies are not silly, but are smack-dab in the middle of the discussions. What is "silly" today was perfectly acceptable in another age until that particular bigotry was deemed unnaceptable by society. For years private schools and institutions excluded Blacks and women and many of the same arguments now used to descriminate against gays were used. My guess is left-handers had problems way back when (but, I'm too busy to do the research). As a new MAC user, well let's say how ashamed I am of the way I thought before I was enlightened. (Actually, I still prefer my Dell.)
Actually, if the school gets ABSOLUTELY NO public funding, I think they may have this right...and they may have the right to exclude Blacks and people of Italian descent.
What is a shame is people can't accept and tolerate beliefs which they do not hold. A LOT of things disgust and repulse me. I'm SERIUOSLY offended by many things, but it's neither very intelligent nor useful to ban that which offends us. So, while the beliefs of the people who run this school offend me deeply, I think it's OK for them to assemble and believe their incredible bull sh--.
THAT'S what makes me better than them!
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So, the fact that the school had set up guidelines for admission - and that the fact that Shay's two mommies decided those guidlelines did not apply to them means that the Church is wrong? When they applied for admission - did they tell bold-faced lies? Did they sign papers knowingly that they were in violation of a simple set of rules?
Gotta love the Church for enforcing their admission policies. It's too bad that people think rules are for others...
So an openly discriminatory policy is OK, as long as it's a policy? Would it be OK if neither of the parents could be Black? Left-handed? Mac users?
While I agree it's a shame to make a sweeping statement about religion in general, I subscribe to the sentiment in my favorite bumper sticker:
God protect me from your followers!
Yes, i look to the bumber sticker for inspiration
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Posted it only because it mentioned the bills. I do not endorse or otherwise believe this statement. Also I take no responsiblility for this article or the contents therein.
You are right not to be concerned. Profootballtalk is, perhaps, the worst, most unreliable site on the net. They have NO inside info...none whatsoever. They simply reprint stuff they have read...and make up stuff to build controversy. They are a joke.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/pickem;_ylt=Aq...BPgTJMDI1hDubYF
Even with a sore Vick, ATL. picked to beat us at home!! WTF??
Beautiful! I LOVE it when everyone picks against us. When people start praising the Bills and picking them to win I get a little...well, you know (right NG?).
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A beautiful picture of beautiful women...and Bills fans to boot. What more could a guy ask for?
(OK, I know the answer to that, no need to get crude here.)
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Hope you have a Happy Bitchy Birthday!
BTW, you look great for 60!
I'd better start running...
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Balls or Heart?
I say both! If he played with it broken last week, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he'll play this week, too.
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what is the quintessetial Marvin Gaye cd with his best stuff, I know I know, Greatest Hits, but there are so many best of..greatest hits..etc, never having been a huge marvin gaye fan my knowledge is limited, but wifey wants to buy a co-worker a gift, and she likes marvin gaye, so anyhelp would be appreciated, thanks.
i always thought "Let's get it on" was his best studio LP...but, it's been awhile. I suggest you check out allmusic.com and type "marvin gaye" in the artist search (I think it's called "name") and see what they think. I'd do it but I'm late for a meeting.
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What do you expect at almost 3 o'clock in the friggin' morning?
Actually, I wrote it exactly that way on purpose, and I was giggling a little as I typed... at that time of the evening, simple things amuse simple minds like mine.
Dean-o, this game is off the books for me until we get a better idea of Vick's status. Gutless, I know. Check back tomorrow; maybe I'll have a guess for you by then.
I hear ya, Lo. I'm in a suicide pool and have to pick one game/team per week (no spread). If I was sure about Vick, I was (maybe) thinking of taking the Bills this week. But, I, too am gutless. Went with the Colts.
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Great job, as always, Lo. But, no prediction?
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Cindy bringing her cans?
Girl expelled for having lesbian parents
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I think it's clear this has nothing, whatsoever, to do with morality. It is the simpliest form of discrimination...plain and simple. It's hate mongering at its most primal and basic.
They may have the right to be pin-headed, homo-hating, hiding-behind-religion bigots. And I have a right (nay, a NEED) to point it out and laugh at them and uncover their hypocrisy.