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It absolutely does. By the the time we entered the draft, there was only 1 QB taken in the first round. That speaks to the quality of the QB prospects that the NFL on a whole agreed upon. I guarantee that doesn't happen this draft. Let's bet. Bridgewater was 2014, btw. EJ was the first off the board in 2013, at #16. I guarantee a QB goes higher than #16 this draft. There are plenty of drafts with no clear #1 overall QB's. That doesn't make them comparable the 2013 draft. That's the simple point you fail to grasp over and over. it's like calling Maybin and Mack similar prospects because there were competition level question marks. Like no bro, that's not how it works.

TT ahead of Sammy Sleeves is cray.

No, but we replaced Levitre with a cheap, better G in Richie (a year too late but that's a whole other argument), and we are feeling the loss of Byrd w/o a replacement after losing him and Searcy back to back. Don't misunderstand my point. I'm not even really blaming the FO here. It's just a reality of the NFL. Teams are always getting stronger talent-wise or weaker. You don't remain at peak talent for very long. And I believe we hit our peak in 2014/2015. We'll look back at the 2015 roster in 2 years IMO, and say "Jeez, if there was ever a year to make a playoff run." A lot of it is luck, finding solid starters and good depth in the later rounds, and luck runs out. Look how deep we were at DB in 2014/2015. Gilmore, Graham, Leo, Darby, Searcy, Robey. Those are 6 quality guys, and we lost 2 of them, and 1 got old. Who have we replaced them with? No one. LB - Kiko, Brown, Spikes, Bradham, Lawson. 4 of them basically gone. ZB was a nice offset but his production is not the norm from a cheap vet. It's just what happens. In 2014 and 2015 we were brimming with talent.

I agree, that's why I'm saying what I'm saying. I just look at our team at a crossroads. We are only going to be losing more and more contributors than gaining in the next 2 years. In the last 2 we've lost Mario, Searcy, Kiko, Leo, Bradham. Before them? We had a streak going where you could see this team gaining more talent than it lost. From 2010 to 2014 we were adding key contributors and replacing our lost FAs with on the whole, superior players. But like you said, resources are limited and times get tough almost overnight. You're seeing it with guys like Lorax and ZB, who we may not be able to retain or replicate. Gilmore. Woods. Talent is cyclical and we're about to head down, not up, IMO.

Do you wanna bet that more QBs go in the first this draft compared to 2013? I suppose that's true, but banking on Washington and Lawson like proven vets is misguided, IMO.

I know nothing about his intent, other than the fact he's had problems with MJ long before his Crohn's diagnosis and he never used it as an excuse in his multiple suspensions in college. In March, Henderson was suspended for the first game of the season, though Miami did not cite a reason (later, Henderson admitted it was because of marijuana use) Henderson was suspended for one game (again, he admitted later, for marijuana use) At the Senior Bowl, Henderson admitted that his positive tests were for marijuana use, hoping to get out in front of the situation. "I'm showing my character. Showing them that I'm responsible, reliable, dependable," Henderson said. "I want to keep letting them know all the negative things are behind me." http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/5/5/5683022/seantrel-henderson-marijuana-suspensions-nfl-draft To me, it sounds like Henderson was saying his MJ use in college was an indictment on his character. And then he gets drafted, and suspended again for a positive MJ test. But now he has the Crohn's diagnosis, that is anecdotally treated with the very same substance he's abused in the face of serious consequences over and over. If you want to tell me that's an enormous coincidence so be it. I can't definitively say you're wrong, because I don't have all the info. But forgive me for remaining skeptical. See above. It means it hasn't been proven to be effective in medical literature versus the standard of care that already exists. If and when that day comes, I'll gladly say, "great." I have no problem with medical MJ at all. But until that day, the excuse that he needs it and can't use anything else is just an excuse. Especially when he's done nothing about the suspensions besides accept them.

It's not accepted standard of care. He's not smoking it because his doctors are telling him to do so. Lots of players attempt to self-medicate with illicit substances (or use that excuse because they like to get high) and get suspended for it. He's no different.

Pot won't save Seantrel's life. That's a false argument.

Sounds like he took accountability, got sober, and is getting back on track. Sounds like a leader to me. That's more than Dareus and Seantrel did.

How did their record change before they drafted Luck and after?

How many times has Brees been to the postseason? How many times has TT? It's over bro. Bow out.

Hello Karlos. Hello Seantrel. Hello Dareus.

BINGO. He will cost next to nothing. He's a former first round talent. Put him on the 90 and see what happens. it's better than Greg McElroy or whatever bums we've had before.

He wasn't even sober. I'd like to see you throw a football after downing a bottle of Popov.

Typical lame retort. May be time to get a new schtick.

March to 2000 yards my man!

This was after he led a TD drive with a Browns offense that did nothing all day.

If he's not ready and sober, cut him. Boom.

That will waste a year and he may have other suitors. The time is now. Grab him!

Can't accurately judge a player lost in the sauce. He's got his head right, now let's see where he's at.

Manziel was #LostintheSauce but now he's back. Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn 3m3 minutes ago Johnny Manziel tells me he has achieved sobriety without professional assistance, needs to maintain and wants to play #NFL. (1/3) Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn 2m2 minutes ago Manziel when I asked his next goal: "PLAY FOOTBALL. A pre season game, anything I don't care what it is..." (2/3) Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn 3m3 minutes ago Manziel: "Only need one team to believe in me and I'll do anything to make that a possibility.'' (3/3) Former first rounder with gobs of potential who has off the field concerns who comes cheaply? Low risk high reward? That's right in Whaley's wheelhouse! The MoneyTeam is back. People don't forget.

I'd be inclined to give credence to your take if you didn't just go off on a partisan hackery rant. Funny how that happens.

MAGA.

Always and forever. BB is nothing without Brady. Buffalo would've ruined all the great QB's if they drafted them. My biggest pet peeve here.

If you get #1 it helps a lot. Colts. Panthers. Falcons.