FireChan

See ya.

This Broncos team is mentally weak. I fire Fox tomorrow. They give up at the first sign of hardship at home in the playoffs? Unacceptable.

I'm just asking. Are Denver fans really at fault for wanting more than "getting close" with a fantastic roster and HoF QB?

Kyle Shanahan has never lost a game as a HC, how can you not be behind him?

True. I'm reserving judgement on Roman. I think it would be fair to attribute his hire to Rex's influence.

We can disagree, it's no big deal. I would just be shocked if a guy with a defensive rep like Rex Ryan had little input on defensive players. Offensive players I can understand. But post two AFCCG's, I'd let him pick whoever he wants on the defensive side of the ball. Or at least take his input very seriously.

Him being a good player was irrelevant to my point. What do you want me to say?

I don't see us any different from where we were 2 weeks ago. Still need a good to great OC. Except now it's harder to lure one away from a good team because it will be a lateral move. Changes will be made on a defense that is at it's peak. I don't like rocking the boat on a #3 defense. So, disapprove.

Him being an excellent player had nothing to do with why I raised him as an example.

Right, all the good picks were Rex and the bad ones were Idzik and Tanny. What a spin.

They've drafted 8 defensive players the last 4 years in rounds 1-3. I can't imagine Rex has only had "say" on 4 of them.

Rex had no say in Dee Milliner and Sheldon Richardson? Seriously?

Unreal. Go back and look at the 09-10 Jets rosters. They were way better than ours today. Revision at its finest. Fair. Fine, we'll stay on players loving him. You said that will bring in more FA's. Last big time FA I remember joining Rex was LT? At the tail end of his career trying to win a ring. 6 years ago. How many good coaches have been loved by their players? Hell, Rex is a great defensive mind and the players love him? Why is his coaching record ~.500?

Wasn't your rallying cry, "we fans need to demand more!" all season?

Still unprofessional. And they loved playing for him so much, they let up 40 to the Bills twice in blowouts. Remember the Dave & Buster's game last season? But now he's new hire, so the excuses are abounding.

Don't you have higher standards?

Who was the last big free agent Rex got? Vick? Remember when Rex publicly emasculated his young QB and undermined his GM all in a prime time matchup? Good thing we don't have a spiteful HC anymore.

Sure, every coach has warts. Why did we grab the one whose warts directly coincide with our team weaknesses? I would've rather hired an OC who sucked at hiring good DC's.

Oh, I don't mean all. He was a good DC and a bad HC was the prevailing opinion around here. Now, because Atlanta wanted him, he's a great hire. Kinda weird.

Yes, I recall that being a big reason how we forced 3 INT's in the first 2 minutes.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000449924/Kyle-Orton-fumbles-Patriots-recover Use him properly Hackett!

Nothing makes sense. Rex's teams "play hard" even though they get blown out. He "prepares" them by never having won a game post-bye. Many posters who hated Rex are now changing their tune. I suppose we will have to get behind him as well.

If you ignore context and just look at the average, yeah, he's tied for the best of all time. Just like if you just look at EJ's completion percentage, he's greatly more accurate in his second season. It's time to let go. The guy is 28 and won't even be a top 50 RB of all time.

Rank those players based on how good you think they are. Then, remind me how many players were on the 6 YPC list, because I know that was the argument two years ago. Now it's 5. 2 years from now it'll be 4.3. Then, tell me how many carries those guys had after 5 years in their career. Compare it to CJ's sample size of carries.

What was their post season stats rookie year?