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Then, when the name is actually changed because the Native American community, including the numerous Native American groups that have come out against the name (and spent a considerable amount of money in the process), have applied enough economic, and social pressure, will you then change your mind? Or do they have to get up in your face personally?

Well, that article concerns me, as well. Yes, I know it's just OTAs. No, I'm not looking for HoF play. It's the accuracy thing that concerns me. Last week the excuse was that the WRs weren't running their proper routes. This week he's overthrowing wide open receivers? Yes, it gives me pause, even during OTAs. btw- if we can't be concerned by a player's poor performance because it's "just OTAs," then what's the point of getting psyched by other player's stand-out performances during the same OTAs? Why pay attention at all?

Seriously? You would go to a Native American reservation and intentionally insult them with the worst word used to describe them? And then "dare them" to stop you??? Why? Are you a sociopath?

I live in California, and there's a lot of indian casinos here.

Hard to argue with that. I'm really not sure why anyone would.

Maybe he wasn't used to EJ being so close to the mark?

Not a lot of talk on here about how EJ is doing. From the few tweets I have read, it sounds like he has been a bit underwhelming, so far. Am I overreacting? Or is this the 700lb gorilla in the room?

And their last name to Williams.

This is exactly the kind of sentiment that illustrates how divisive the man is.

Trumps public persona has been grist for media ridicule for over two decades now. He has long been a parody of himself. In my opinion, a Trump ownership would be a PR nightmare. The scant national attention our team does get will be overshadowed by whatever bloviating nonsense Trump feels should be focused on. In a Trump-owned team, the most important person, and the most visible person, will always be Trump. I see him as a magnet for parody, as well as an utterly divisive character. In his most recent bid for the republican presidential nomination, he showed himself to be both divisive, and a political weather vane. I absolutely don't trust him. And, I fear our team would become a laughing stock.

Honestly, I couldn't take this thread seriously after I read reason #1. How many times has Trump filed for bankruptcy?

1,200 yards would be great, but not likely. There have only been a handful of rookie WRs to hit 1,200 in the history of the NFL. I'm probably in the minority here (I usually am), but I don't expect a huge year from Watkins, for a number of reasons. 1) There is EJ. (I'm not bashing here) Having missed as much of the last season as he has, he is practically still a rookie. Assuming he steps it up, as we all hope he will, he still isn't going to be a polished vet. A rookie QB to a rookie WR doesn't equal 1,200 yards. 2) As talented as Watkins is, there will still be growing pains. I will admit, the only thing I have seen of Watkins is highlight reel material. That being said, we all know that defenses are a lot tougher in the NFL. Quite a few of Watkins' highlights included blown coverage that just would not have happened in the NFL. 3) If we see a lot of the three, or even four wide sets that some people are predicting (I hope we do), then let's hope that EJ spreads the ball around. A lot. 4) We have a talented stable of receivers. Assuming that EJ does step it up, I personally think that Woods is poised for a 1,000 yard season. I also think that if Mike Williams can keep his head on straight (Marrone obvious thinks he can), he can be a serious impact player. I understand why Lovie Smith dropped him, but he had some amazing plays with the Bucs. Add to that, CJ (who has great hands), and Chandler, who netted the most receiving yards last year. Still-- no buyer's remorse.

Gotcha...

DC Tom was referring to the Native American nations, not our own. It just seems like an inconsistency to me that he would listen to "the opinions of the Native American nations" (his words), but not their leaders. And, had I not posted that article directly after he had made the comment, I don't believe he would have drawn the distinction. Indeed, I suspect that if the leaders of the Native American nations supported his position, he would be quoting them.

And what is your excuse for ignoring the "leaders" of said "nations?"

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/27/native-american-leaders-speak-out-against-redskins-name/

I feel entitled to post this because I'm 1/32 Irish.http://o.onionstatic.com/images/7/7372/original/700.jpg?3640

That's a hard pill for just about anybody to swallow. Well played, sir!

There will be no legislation passed that will force the Redskins to change their name. The Redskins name is protected under the first amendment. This has been one of the reasons that legal challenges from Native American groups have failed.

No. Go ahead and call black people "colored," and see how many friends you make.

Context

1) What???2) Did you even read my response? 3) Does not apply to the conversation AND YOU KNOW IT. 4) I would call someone a brown person BEFORE I CALLED THEM COLORED!!!

Ok, well, this seems like such an easy argument to make that it doesn't even seem worth the time, but here goes: The Browns were named after their beloved general manager and first coach Mike Brown who, to the best of my knowledge (and correct me if I'm wrong here) was NOT massacred by the United States military. The Redskins, on the other hand, are named after a derogatory term used to describe a race of people who WERE massacred by the United States Military. If, in the future, the term "Brown" becomes synonymous with, I suppose, brown people (I assume that is your assertion?) then Cleveland will have their own choice to make. That is as much as I can predict, as there is no historical perspective for the term "brown" being used as a negative, racial epithet. All of this seems so blatantly obvious to me that I am wondering why I am taking the time to type it. So, this may have to be my last post on the subject. The whole argument has drifted into the absurd.

I was expanding on what I thought was an interesting, but otherwise irrelevant point. As far as whether or not the term "redskin" could be taken as an insult, would you ever call a Native American a "redskin" to their face? I wouldn't.