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I would think that given Marrone's recent statements regarding Manuel, and the lack of experience in our back-ups (and I am making an assumption that Kolb will not be here next season), that it would not be unlikely for the Bills to bring in another veteran in the offseason- hopefully someone a little sturdier than Kolb.
So, to the OP: Would you please write another analysis outlining all of the various results from a 4-way QB competition involving Manuel, Lewis, Tuel, and veteran X?
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I'm rooting for the Broncos for the sake of Payton Manning. The guy has had a legendary year, deserves a ring.
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He's had three knee injuries in his first season, and not on the same knee. Is there any point in denying that he is injury prone? How many injuries does EJ sustain before we can all agree that he is injury prone? And, what does his weight have to do with it?That's a massive misrepresentation. EJ's injuries have come from direct contact with the knee cap on both occasions...a lot of guys get hurt like that (Brady, for instance). It says nothing of his body's ability to take a hit.
He's 240 lbs; he's not frail.
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I doubt he will be available, but CLOWNEY.I can't see them slipping any further down the board (and most likely, they jump up a spot or two.) I would be shocked if there were not 3 QBs (minimum) taken in the first 10 spots (Bridgewater, Carr, Bortles/Manziel). That leaves 7 players (non QB) that will be drafted in the top 10. Can you pick 7 that you would be absolutely ecstatic to draft? I can, so there will be a difference maker no matter what.
1 Jake Matthews (OT)
2 Clowney (DE)
3 Barr (LB)
4 Mack (LB)
5 Robinson (OT)
6 Evans (WR)
7 Jace Amar0 - people will say it's a reach but who cares OR Nix (DT) stop this run once and for all....
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The main reason that the league has stacked so many divisional games late in the season, with division rivals playing each other as close as two weeks apart, is to try to ensure that the late regular season doesn't become meaningless. Apparently, the league doesn't consider it laughable.Seriously, this lose out for better draft position thing is laughable. It's kitty BS. I wouldn't want to be part of any team that lost on purpose much less a fan of such a team. It's a loser mentality and B****made. Bunch of kittens who root to lose should go find another team to "root" for.
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I think it's extremely deceptive to compare numbers like this. Nicks has been playing with Eli Manning for the last five seasons, on a team good enough to beat the Patriots in the 2012 SB. Of course his numbers are going to be higher. If Nicks' numbers were identical to SJ's, you would have to assume that SJ was the better receiver.i think id take nicks over stevie easily when healthy, but i wouldnt be upset with anyone for disagreeing due to the health issues.
nicks worst YPC 13.1, career YPC 15
nicks best 2 seasons (28 games) 2350 yards, 18 tds
stevies best YPC 13.2 career YPC 12.8
stevies best 2 seasons (not consecutive, 32 games) -- 2100 yards 16 tds
nicks has more upside, but his health would certainly be a risk. that said, long term i dont know about stevies health either.
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We're going to see over the next few weeks, as he will likely be starting for the 'Skins for their last three games. It seems likely he will be available, he played well in his few games last season. I said "intrigued" btw. Not, "lets bench EJ for him."Please explain why. What has Cousins ever done to prove he is a starting NFL QB? Be a 4th round draft pick? But hey anyone is better than EJ obviously.
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Josh McCown is 34 years old. Not exactly a long-term solution. I would be more intrigued with Kirk Cousins.
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Does this men that next year is a "rebuilding" year also? This team should be renamed the "Buffalo Builds."Isn't this just the beginning of 'rant' season? Out of playoff contention, then the brutally long wait until the draft, then the divide between the optimists/completesuckers and realists/pessimists/asshats get's exacerbated until the season starts, and then we have around 10 weeks of semi-reasonable "let's see where this thing goes" posts….no?
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Easy there, pal...So what you're saying is Rochester fans suck?
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Kyle Williams is practicing today?
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I didn't forget EJ. I'm looking at it from game to game.You forgot EJ. And even Matt Flynn was on the roster.
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The Buffalo Bills defense is spending the week preparing for the Steelers offense and QB Ben Roethlisberger. There's plenty of film to view.
The Pittsburgh Steelers defense is spending the week doing what? QB is the most important position of the offense. And if you don't know which QB you're facing you're at a disadvantage.
Bigger Picture: Any analysis of the Buffalo Bills at this point is completely useless. Had EJ not injured his knee in training camp and the other knee against Cleveland he would have played every game so far. Then you can make analysis.
All season long the Bills have been a mess at the QB position. Opponents not knowing which Bills QB almost every week leaves them at a huge disadvantage to start the game.
Different QBs nearly every week makes for a schizophrenic football team with schizophrenic games and schizophrenic/useless mid-season analysis.
I'm sorry, but this is a ridiculous argument. Not knowing whether your team is going to face an injured Lewis, or a healthy Tuel is a slight wrinkle in game planning to face the Bills. Obviously, it has NO effect on the opponent's offense or special teams, and very little for their defense. For that matter, the Steelers not knowing whether they are going to face EJ or Lewis this week represents only a slight wrinkle for them. Throughout the season, our game plans have been consistent, regardless of who has been under center. Has anyone seen a big difference in our playbook? Our WRs are the same, our RBs are the same, we will run the same number of passing vs. running plays. Maybe Lewis would run the ball a bit more, but no one should expect either QB to do a lot of rushing. And their QBRs are almost identical. This isn't the difference between Rogers and Wallace in Green Bay, which caused an 8.5 point drop in the point spread for Sunday. The difference in game planning between EJ and Lewis is not huge, and is certainly not causing any schizophrenia in Buffalo.
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Pretty interesting thread. I think it's worthy to note that while Vegas bookmaker consensus has the Bills at around 3.5 point underdogs vs. the Steelers, quite a few casinos have yet to post odds. This is also true of the upcoming Bears/Lions game, and it is safe to assume that they are waiting on who will start at QB. Obviously, if Cutler doesn't start, as he said he wants to, the odds will certainly shift to the Lions. (Bears are currently 2.5 point underdogs, I assume with the expectation that Cutler will play.) I wonder how the point spread would change between the prospect of Manuel vs. Lewis starting? Personally, I think it would be a wash.
As it stands NOW, I think the Bucs and the Jags are the only teams that we would be favored in. Maybe the Falcons, but I think they will have some injured key players back by then. I doubt we will be favored vs. the Dolphins- unless their implosion continues, which I wouldn't count on. The Jets have pulled themselves together, and will likely be competing for the same spot, and possibly the division title, which would make our game against the Pats that much harder. Either way, I have a hard time picturing the Pats relaxing against a division rival, especially in Foxboro- regardless of the circumstances.
But, of course, a lot could change. Winning our last seven games is certainly possible. many people have said that with decent QB play, the Bills are a legit team- and not just Bills fans. We could easily be favored against the Falcons AND the Phins by the time we play them. And, while the Jets have looked good recently, they have been wildly inconsistent this season and are thin at some key positions as are the Pats.
As a fan, I always try to stay rational. That being said, I am still optimistic, and haven't given up on this season.
Go Bills!
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There are posters who use rhetorical phrases such as, "end of story," "case closed," and "(blah, blah, blah) pure and simple." Those who betray such a one-sided perspective and hold their own opinions in such high regard rarely bend to reason, and I generally ignore much of what they have to say. I've been a member of this site for a couple years, now. I rarely post, but I read it almost daily. The fans who take a reasoned approach, temper their judgements with facts (rather than emotion), and who are seeking opinions as much as they are presenting them, are the one's from whom I have learned much about football.For a kid who's been thrown into some hellacious situations while doing his level best to make a living, he gets denigrated to a disturbing degree. I don't get it, but I'm sure of this: the dissing he takes says more about the dissers than the dissee.
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If we're going to be honest with ourselves, sustaining two knee injuries in his first six games, including preseason, is most certainly cause for concern. How many games did Phil Simms miss in his first season due to injury? I recall you being extremely critical of Kolb for being injury prone, and, as it turned out, rightly so. But, you seem to be applying a different standard to EJ. I think the value you place on your own opinions/predictions is clouding your judgement.I've posted it before but I'll do it again.
Would you be happy if after calling it a career a QB had two Super Bowl Rings, was a Super Bowl MVP and two Pro Bowls?
Phil Simms in his first four years had a a separated shoulder, compound fracture of thumb on his throwing hand and torn knee ligaments. He was drafted higher than EJ, I think it was the eighth pick. I lived in NYC at the time a lot of fans hated the pick. Called injury prone and a bust. Not a HOF but his number has been retired by the Giants. I think if you asked Giant fans who they would take given a choice between Simms and Eli Manning, they would take Simms.
I am sure if I tried I could give you many examples. Please stop with the injury prone nonsense.
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He has two strong knees.... hopefully...While I am not one that wants to see Tuel play on Sunday, what strengths does he possess? He got signed onto an NFL roster for some reason so there must be SOMETHING that he is somewhat good at when it comes to the quarterback position.
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I don't see any reason to believe that EJ, at 100%, will come back and play well after having several weeks off with a bum knee. He was mediocre at best before the injury. After several weeks of very limited activity, he will, once again, be a project in its early stages. To "brace him up," and play him before he is 100%, because we are facing one of the better defenses in the league would be beyond foolish.
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Is it me, or does this team seem to have an addiction to UDFAs?
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The Chiefs haven't given up more than 17 points all year. With how much Thad struggled against NO, it would be a stretch to assume the Bills will be the first team to exceed that total. That being said, they can't keep up this pace all year, nor can they keep up the undefeated season. The question is whether this is the game the Chiefs will come back down to earth a bit.
So much is riding on this game for the Bills. If they win, not only are they one of the main national stories on Monday, but they will have also put themselves in a solid position for a playoff push with several "easier" games coming up. If they lose, same old Bills, 3-6, looking like even 8-8 is out of reach.
Meanwhile, it's almost an acceptable loss for the Chiefs. They've already played much better than anyone thought and have basically locked up a playoff spot after being the worst team in the league last year. The Bills are at home and the Ralph will be super amped up for this game.
That's why I think the intangibles favor the Bills and they will buck the statistical trends which have been so favorable to the Chiefs so far this season. It is the appropriate game for them to come back down to earth.
Bills win 20-16.
The above bolded statement is absolutely UNTRUE for the Chiefs. The Chiefs are one game ahead of the Broncos in their division, and still have to play them twice. This game is HUGE for the Chiefs. It is most likely the difference between The Chiefs playing at the Broncos in week 11 one game ahead, or tied in their division. (Which also means, it is most likely the difference between the Chiefs finishing that game, tied, or one game behind. No team has better home field advantage, IMO, than the Broncos.)
All that being said, we are only 3 point underdogs, apparently. This is a winnable game.
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You have to admit, this isn't exactly accurate. He's had two knee injuries in five games. That's not exactly promising.Because they love EJ. Whaley has gushed about him on several occasions. He's the QB next year and has shown nothing but promise in his limited time
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True, but Right Manuel didn't mention the spread. In context, I believe he was talking about Ws, and Ls.Funny Tebow mention
Right Manuel for the Job is correct. Picking Bills Opponent - Points would give you a losing record this season. The Bills are 5-2 against the spread.
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The Bills will keep it close in the first half until Thad goes down with an injury in the second quarter. Then, we sign Tim Tebow during the halftime, and he rallies us to a win in overtime. 27-24, Bills.
Had the experts been wrong more often than not, we would be enjoying a winning season.Every "expert" will pick the Saints to win. Just like every expert picked the Ravens to beat the Bills, and the Dolphins to beat the Bills. We are the permanent underdog, but this year the experts have been wrong more often than not with this team.
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I agree with this, more or less (except for calling Lewis, "Fitz with a better arm"- I think that is a nonsensical comparison), but I am looking at it with a very different perspective. Lewis DOES look like a QB who just came off the practice squad. And, he has played one game for us- his second NFL game of his career. How will he look after a few more? Is there any reason to think he won't improve? Sure, his ceiling may have been reached. But, other than the fact that he wasn't drafted, is there any reason to assume that? There isn't any QB controversy now- I don't think anyone is saying that there is. But, if Lewis improves, and proves that he has a higher ceiling than you think he has, and wins us some games, maybe there should be.With all due respect to the Thad supporters here, there is no controversy. Thad is gritty, tough and has made some nice plays. He has also looked like a QB that just came off the PS. He is Fitz with a better arm. Once teams get more than 3 games of footage on him he will be easier to defend. I have little faith in a Thad Lewis led team for 16 games. He is limited, went undrafted for a reason and was backing up KELLEN MOORE in Detroit two months ago. His ceiling may already have been reached. EJ has immense talent albeit he is a bit raw. But if you haven't recognized his talent, leadership and pure ability, you are clearly missing something
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