Rocky Landing
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7 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Of course he doesn't take guys the Head Coach doesn't want. They are very tight with each other they share a vision for how the team is built. But the decisions on personnel are Brandon Beane's. They way this roster is built bears all the hallmarks of the Hurney / Gettleman builds in Carolina when Beane was a senior exec in that front office. This is a Brandon Beane built roster. He makes the personnel decisions.
It strikes me that a couple years after McDermott, and Beane arrived in Buffalo, the process by which they rebuilt the team became a blueprint that other teams tried to emulate, and intrinsic to that blueprint was the relationship between head coach, and general manager. Indeed, during the long drought years, the Bills floundered through pairings of coaches, and GMs who were clearly not on the same page.
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This was a quality writeup, @Logic. Rational, and concise. This could have been featured in The Athletic, and I would have read it with equal interest. Here are some thoughts/responses of my own.
1. Keon Coleman - This draft was heralded for its depth at WR, but after the top three of Harrison/Nabers/Odunze (whom we did not have a chance of getting), I think you had a variety of talent that would perhaps go in the first round of a more typical draft class. On TBD, everyone seemed to have their favorite, be it Thomas, Mitchell, McConkey, Leggette, etc. And from the reports, it would seem they chose Josh Allen's favorite. I'm good with that.
2. Cole Bishop - 3. Dewayne Carter - Whenever I hear a pundit say things like, "a day-one starter," or "one of the most NFL ready..." I cringe. But a nice thing that happened in this draft, I think, is that between an enormous run on QBs from QB-needy teams, and the huge class of WRs, a lot of other skill positions got pushed down the board, especially on defense, where the Bills were most needy. In that regard, I think the Bills lucked out with these two picks.
4. Ray Davis - It's hard to ever get too excited about drafting a running back (Cook notwithstanding), but the more I look at this pick, the more I like it. He looks to be durable, and a culture fit. At 215lbs, and only 5'8", he'll play the role of short-yardage power-back, but still has reliable hands as a check-down option. It'll be nice to have such a player that isn't in his mid-30s for a change...5. Sedrick Van Pran - Of all the offseason turnover, the one that makes me shake my head the most is the loss of Mitch Morse. For what the Jags paid him in cap money, we totally could have afforded him. Morse was good, and with his departure, I'm left hoping they have a good plan for the line. Van Pran certainly adds to that hope.
5. Edufuan Ulofoshio - With this pick, and also the recent addition of Deion Jones, I'm really left wondering what they know, or suspect about Milano's prognosis?
5. Javon Soloman - We've had other defensive players who were initially deemed "undersized," who have excelled in our defense-- Milano, and Bernard, being obvious examples. With his character, personality, and athleticism, this seems like the absolute, quintessential Beane/McDermott pick (in the best way).
6. Tylan Grable - When a lot of GMs gets to the sixth round of the draft, they're looking more at overall player value than actual positions of need. That's how we ended up with Jake Fromm. This was a wasted pick, IMO.
6. Daequan Hardy - This looks like one of those late round picks that Beane somehow seems to nail. He does seem to be better at assessing late-round talent than early-round talent. We do play a base nickel defense, and this guy could excel at NCB. With the departure of Siran Neal (who was too old for the position anyway), we were left with Cam Lewis as Taron Johnson's backup. That makes me queasy.
7. Travis Clayton - I attended the Bills at Chargers game in week 16, last season, and I lost track of the number of times I heard over the PA, "...number 76 reporting as an eligible receiver..." and then watched whomever Josh handed the ball to get stuffed at the LOS. It was infuriating, but the Bills seem addicted to that Jumbo package on short yardage situations. Clayton will almost certainly be put on the PS, but it is my great hope that he ends up on the 53 as that sixth Jumbo package OL. And who cares it that 6'7", 300+lb, fast, athletic-freak-rugby-monster can actually play OT??? I want to see him catch a pass from Allen, and flatten the first defender that dares tackle him. Travis Clayton could be to football what Happy Gilmore was to golf.-
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I predict that I will, once again, overpay to see the Bills @ Rams at SoFi.
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16 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:
1. Bishop - potential long term starter at safety
2. Van Pran Granger - potential long term starter at C
3. Hardy - many say he's the best slot corner int he draft. Could take over Johnson's role and be here long term.
4. Ulofoshio - Given McD's love affair with ST guys, I think he could stick around to a second deal and be the next Matakevich
5. Coleman - Given the current WR market, I don't see him lasting to a second contract here unless he's a mild disappointment
6. Hardy - given his age and position, unlikely he plays a second contract here
7. Carter - will be part of the rotation for his rookie deal. Perhaps he sees a second contract as a rotational guy.
8. Solomon - last year he may have had an uphill climb to make the team, but given how thin we are there he'll get a real shot
9. Grable - PS
10. Clayton - PS
You’ve listed Hardy twice, with very different assessments.
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34 minutes ago, DC Tom said:
Bat signal received. Who'm I calling an idiot?
That’s a long list, I’m afraid. But I suppose you could start with me…
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I did notice that they've brought in Matt Haack, who was not as good a punter for us as Martin has been, I believe. IIRC, there was some discussion after Bass's terrible miss at the end of the KC divisional round game, that part of the issue was Martin's hold, but it wasn't discussed much after that. And, of course, this FO is never going to point fingers publicly. I wonder if they feel that the issue lies, at least partially, with Martin's hold?
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4 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:
Does it make Bills fans feel worse about the Coleman pick knowing that the Team that highly drafted N'Keal Harry and Tyquan Thorton wanted him?
Nah. Former GM Bill Belichick* is long gone.
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8 hours ago, WotAGuy said:
You love to hear it:
Sounds like Keon dodged a bullet!
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23 hours ago, Augie said:
You realize the South is a big place, right? I heard it just last week. That’s a fact.
It’s actually used quite commonly, but not in a flattering way. For those of you familiar with DCTom……..yep.
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I wish @DC Tom would start posting again. We could use his...umm... perspective around here, lately...
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4 minutes ago, H2o said:
Yes, the REAL burning question this off-season. Have the Bills done enough to address the PK position?
Considering how Bass finished the season, it's not an irrelevant question to be asking.
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1 hour ago, mrags said:
This seems like the type of thing an employee would think up because they were trying for a promotion.
I nominate you for one of the QOD posters. See my post above.
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I think it's a great idea. As far as who gets selected, and who gets denied, I would hope that some of our more contentious posters would get a day, or two, and I would also hope that different sides of the spectrum would be represented-- optimist vs. pessimist, if you will. Like maybe Wednesdays could be one of our "knowledgable jackasses" (we all know who they are), and then Thursdays could be the "hopelessly optimistic homers." (We know who they are, too...)
Be that as it may, great idea, and I'm really looking forward to it. It may take a week, or three to catch on, and certainly some questions, and some posters will have varying degrees of popularity, but I suspect that with some tweaking, it's going to become very popular.
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6 hours ago, eball said:
It has been repeated so often how the Bills are “in trouble” at WR because of Beane’s supposed mismanagement of the roster and the losses of Diggs and Davis, that I finally started really looking at what is going on around the league. I started with the four teams who made the conference championships last season, and who they got there with: KC, Baltimore, Detroit, and SF. SF is sort of an anomaly because they are loaded at the skill positions — perhaps the best group in the league.
But the other three — a completely different story.
Last season:
KC: Kelce, Rice, Pacheco, and…?
BAL: Andrews, Flowers, Edwards, OBJ, and…?
DET: St. Brown, LaPorta, Reynolds, Gibbs, and…?
Notice something about all three? The TE may be the best receiver on the team, and their WR rooms are anything other than “loaded.”
The Bills will roll out Kincaid, Coleman, Shakir, Samuel, and Cook…aside from the unknown that is Coleman, this is a group one could very easily argue is more talented than what those other teams put on the field last season while getting to their conference championships.
Agree? Disagree?
Regarding TE, it's not just Kincaid. The one-two punch of Kincaid, and Knox is one of the best (if not the best) TE duos in the league, and while Knox may not have the hands, or route ability of Kincaid, his YAC is damned good-- downright violent. He put the work in to clean up his drop issues, and he's a clutch player, who doesn't choke in the big moments.
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1 hour ago, Billl said:
Which one has put up 20 TDs in the last 3 seasons, and which as put up 4?
Not that I'm a fan of Claypool, or this signing, but that is not an apples to apples comparison. Davis was #2 on the depth chart. But if Claypool had been in this offense last season, and given the same number of targets (and I am certainly ignoring Josh's comfort, and familiarity with Davis), he's probably going to deliver the same amount of production. To keep Davis here would have been expensive, and worked against the cap. Bringing in Claypool is low risk-- and who knows? Maybe this is the season he lives up to his reported "potential?"
Probably not, but if he did, he wouldn't be the first WR to have career years with Allen throwing them the ball-- Diggs, Brown, Beasley, were all seasoned veterans, and all had their best seasons when they arrived in Buffalo. Taking a "flyer" on a vet who never lived up to their potential means something different when Josh Allen is your quarterback.
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3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
We aren't running Dabols offense this season the way I understand it. It's Brady's that he ran at LSU
That's a fair point. (Although, an offensive scheme in which WRs getting separation isn't a significant plus doesn't exist) I think we could see the increased importance of YAC in Brady's scheme, after he took over from Dorsey. And YAC wasn't really a strength of most of our receivers, including Kincaid. It should be something to see the improvement in that element of the game this season.
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1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
They want BIG and Athletic. Speed is good, don't get me wrong, but they are seeming to push for big, physical WR's and that is what Joe Brady had his year as OC with HIS offense down at LSU. No more getting bullied at the LOS, and hopefully a lot more contested balls. It also brings a greater Catch radius for Allen to hit on when his passes are slightly off.
Look I get it, Fans want splash they want exciting and we tried that with smaller, faster WR's and it didn't work. I am excited to see this new approach to be honest, and if we get the running game going, then we are going to see somewhat less exciting 8, 10,12+ play drives that eat the clock and keep guys like Mahomes and Kelce on the bench and hopefully lead to more TD's.
Speed, and size in the WR room is not mutually exclusive. Shakir, Samuel, and Kamler are all fast. Coleman is faster than he's getting credit for. Slow 40, perhaps, but his top-end speed is up there. But the thing that hasn't, and likely won't be replaced from the departure of Diggs is separation. Diggs' ability to effortlessly separate, and get open (and then consistently catch the ball, of course) is what truly made him elite. Those crazy, athletic grabs he would make from time to time were icing on the cake, and made for super entertaining football-- but it was his ability to separate, regardless if it was on schedule, or extending a blown play that really won us some games.
It's hard for me to get too excited about Claypool, or much of our WR room, to be honest. The well-earned knock on Claypool is that he can't separate off-schedule, and get himself open. He has all those strongman YAC traits, and can catch a contested ball, and competently run the route that's assigned to him. That might work for a team like the Dolphins, who butter their bread with timing routes, and quick reads-- but that's not Bills football.
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Bills came due in Miami much the same way they did in Buffalo. And, just like us, a lot of talent walked out the door, especially on defense. And of course, they are stuck with Tua.
The only team that might take the AFCE over the Bills are the Jets, who wisely spent a lot of resources in their draft and FA on improving their O-line, and protecting Aaron Rodger’s. And once again, their season hinges on Aaron Rodgers. That’s an even bigger gamble this season than it was the last. Frankly, I very much doubt this narrative being peddled in New Jersey that Rodger’s is some super-human with mutant healing powers.
I haven’t looked at the Vedas odds recently, but I have to believe the Bills are the favorites to once again take the AFCE.
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I'm currently on hiatus from my job, and so I've been re-watching a bunch of games from last season (condensed on NFL+), and I have to say-- the Bills are going to be a very different team without Stefon Diggs. It's unquestionable that he fell off at the end of the season. To my eyes it looked like he just wasn't trying as hard. But all that notwithstanding, there isn't anybody on this team to match his ability. But while Diggs fell off at the end of the season, as did Gabe Davis, quite frankly, others sure did step up. Shakir, Kincaid, Cook, and Ty Johnson all became markedly better as the season progressed.
And not for nothing, the ascendence of those players (especially Johnson, and Shakir) did seem to coincide with Brady becoming OC.
14 hours ago, BarleyNY said:I’ve been thinking about how the offense will evolve. At a very basic level I’d expect to see a short yardage and RZ package with 21 personnel including Coleman. Longer yardage and longer field personnel we might see more 11 with WRs and TE determined by matchups. Obviously nothing earth shattering in that. Just thinking about when we’d see different players on the field.
I think you mean 12 personnel? 1 RB, and 2 TEs.
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No thanks to Drop-Zone Jones. His drafting was a cautionary tale on drafting players based on how "NFL ready" they are.
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My hope is that Clayton makes the 53, and they use him in those Jumbo packages they love to run. I hated those plays last season. They were useless, and ineffectual. But, imagine Clayton, at 300lb+ with that speed, in a Jumbo package announced as an eligible receiver? That could be fun.
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7 minutes ago, peterpan said:
wtf is an RAS
Rice and sausages. Detroit fare.
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2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
As many as we carried last year and Dodson is gone, Matakevich is gone, and Klein is likely retired. So need to re-build that depth.
I dont expect them all to be all-pro all the way down. But the roster needed bodies there.
And Milano, and Bernard are both coming off injury-- a significant injury wrt Milano.
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4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
1. DJ James, CB, Auburn
2. Jeremiah Trotter, LB, Clemson
3. Christian Mahogany, IOL, Boston College
4. Kris Abrams-Draine, CB, Missouri
5. Austin Booker, EDGE, Kansas
6. Sedrick Van Pran, IOL, Georgia
7. Beau Brade, S, Maryland
8. Brenden Rice, WR, USC
9. Leonard Taylor, DT, Miami
10. Cam Hart, CB, Notre Dame
We need all those guys...
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