Rocky Landing
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I think there is a very typical, knee-jerk reaction that when there are problems, firing someone is a "step in the right direction." Has Marrone improved from last season to this? Has Hackett improved from last season? Starting from square one rarely takes a team to the next level- especially when the team has been moving in the right direction. Unless one equates "accountable" with getting fired, I don't see how Marrone/Hackett have not been accountable in their respective roles.
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There are certainly a myriad of theories to answer that question. I find the notion that LA is populated by a rare breed of uninterested fan to be intellectually lazy. Certainly, I would agree that "big city" fans tend to be a little more bandwagonish (didn't Fireman Ed quit the Jets last year?). But, I still maintain that LA would embrace a team, and that the reasons are far more political, and economic.OK, great I stand corrected, but still no answer to "Why did LA lose two teams an the city remain void of an NFL franchise for over twenty-years?"
I got it regarding the Dodgers, Lakers, UCLA and USC - however they do not compete in the NFL.
Here is a pretty good link that illustrates the political aspect: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/10/09/the-politics-behind-why-los-angeles-doesnt-have-an-nfl-team/
I agree with the assessments of many pundits that there is a greater financial push now for a team to move to LA than there has been in the last 20 years. It does seem to be a slow process, though.I think LA would support a team. And there will be a decent fan base. But nothing like any of the good fan bases around the league. And the NFL does not "need" LA one bit. Unless Kroenkee or whatever his name is builds a stadium at Hollywood Park, I don't see a team here for years.
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I would be interested in learning what CJ's numbers are for his runs up the middle. If they averaged over a yard, I would be surprised. If they averaged negative yards, I would not be surprised.4.2 ypc this year. 4.6 ypc last year.
even his 7.8 yards per catch is nice.
Worth noting Dixon is averaging 4.2, as well. Dixon is getting a positional high 5.9 yards per catch, also.
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"...the Raiders, and that's a limited, strange, isolated clan." No argument there!I've lived in LA for 20 years, too. Yes, there are still a lot of Raider fans. And yes, USC and UCLA get great turnouts. LA is actually a great sports town. I hate Laker fans but there are a lot of them. Dodger fans are great. Even Kings fans are decent.
But I don't see how UCLA or USC fans translate. I'm as big a football fan as anyone, but I don't have much interest at all at paying $150 to go see The Bengals play the Raiders, and I don't think many fans do who are not fans of those teams. Even if they moved here. I would go once to see the stadium and that's about it. Maybe go with free tickets. But I don't see fans here getting an emotional attachment outside of the Raiders, and that's a limited, strange, isolated clan.
My point regarding the UCLA, and USC games is that there are football fans in LA. I know more than a few people who go to those games who are not alumni.
But, more to your point, LA is a great sports town. And, there would be some deep pockets marketing an LA franchise. I remember reading somewhere, quite a while ago, that it is now a league rule that when a team relocates, they are required to change their name. But, I don't remember where I read that, and I'm not sure if it's true. But, if a team did move to LA, I suspect they would change their name, and be heavily marketed. And, even a die-hard Bills fan like yourself, with over 28,000 posts, would start to pay attention to them. You'd (maybe secretly, at first) start to root for them when they were playing anyone but the Bills. Fan bases aren't created overnight.
The next time you are in Los Angeles, go to a Dodgers game, or a USC, or UCLA game, or the Clippers, or Lakers, or Kings, and your questions will be answered.Again, if it's such a winner and the fans so great why could they not hold the Rams or Raiders, or put a team there over the last twenty years. Some cities have other entertainment, cultural, and sports interests other than the NFL, TV and corporate boxes are great and costly but you still need a fan base. During my visits to SD and LA you see people actually enjoying the outdoors, boating, biking, surfing, hang gliding, and other entertainment value. This is competition to the NFL for the discretionary spending dollar and while I am sure a team would provide a passing fancy, I see a stadium on a fall afternoon three-quarters full yawning at the action AKA 1985 and Eric Dickerson.
Edit: For that matter, go to the NHRA Winter Nationals in Pomona, and see how many people are willing to spend their hard earned dollars to be utterly assaulted by the top-fuel dragsters!
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I've been living in Los Angeles since 1991 (suck an egg, Buffalo Barbarian!), and my feeling is that there is quite a lot of interest from LA NFL fans for there to be a team here. There is an ENORMOUS contingent of the Raider Nation here. And, quite a few fans are still stinging from the exit of the Rams, which felt like a betrayal to many. Be that as it may, to compare the economic, or social, or sports landscape in Los Angeles to that of 20 years ago is inaccurate. There are certainly no shortage of football fans, and I believe any team that arrived in LA would be embraced. Look at the turnout for USC, and UCLA games.
I do agree that LA has been used as a pressure tactic to push for public funding in other cities in the past. But, I certainly don't believe that the NFL has been merely stringing along AEG for such purposes. And AEG did receive a six month contract extension for a stadium deal from the LA City council in October.
San Diego has certainly made it clear that they have no intention of moving. In fact, I think they may represent a major stumbling block to a team arriving in Los Angeles. According to Chargers executive Mark Fabiani, 30% of the teams local revenue originates in the LA market. Any team that submits a proposal to move needs a super majority for approval, and I suspect that the Chargers might work behind the scenes to undermine that vote. I haven't read that anywhere-- just my conjecture.
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Please don't run him up the middle...
Please don't run him up the middle...
Please don't run him up the middle...
Please don't run him up the middle...
Please don't run him up the middle...
Please don't run him up the middle...
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A la Brad Smith?Except that is not an answer.
I don't want EJ getting a series or making a package for him, except PERHAPS a short yardage package where he will often roll out and either run or throw. One thing that EJ is already very good at that will not change is ball handling. He's very good on ball fakes and play action. It's a skill.
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I agree that he has regressed. But, so has our run game, and I feel like the O-line has regressed as well, even with Urbik starting. Cordy Glenn, especially, looked awful on Sunday. It is not just Orton who needs to snap out of it.Sure the OL has breakdowns, but on many occasions Orton has been afforded good pass pro and has failed to deliver accurate passes or make the correct read. He's been particularly putrid in this recent three game stretch. He started out playing average to decent level QB, but has regressed. I'm not sure why he's gone backwards, but it'd be nice if he snapped out of it since he's going to remain as the starter for this season.
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Sure. But, the speed at which that pocket often collapsed on Sunday had nothing to do with Orton's mobility, or lack thereof. Also, I think it's unfair to characterize Orton as "immediately hunching over and waiting for the sack." He has actually been pretty good at getting rid of the ball without intentional grounding.The O Line would have easier job with a QB that can sense a rush and not immediately hunch over and wait for the sack. Knowing that you are rushing a qb that cannot move let alone escape make the pass rushers job a lot easier.
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I'm not disagreeing with that, and I am not "excusing" Orton. But, Orton isn't terrible. He's average. I haven't seen "staring down his receivers" as one of his major deficiencies. Hell, he never has time to stare down his receivers. What I do see as his major deficiencies are poor mobility, and an utter inability to throw on the run, or even throw without setting his feet. ALL of his decent throws (and let's be honest- he's had plenty) have occurred when he has had time to set his feet. These are deficiencies that would be mitigated, and far less critical with some decent protection, and a stable pocket. Am I wrong?There have been plenty of opportunities for him to make good throws where he simply failed to do so. But go ahead and excuse him. It's just fine with me.
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Three field goals qualifies as "absolute domination?"Absolute domination!
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That would have to include a terrible O-line, and a constantly unstable pocket.Right, let's just ignore what we've seen for at least the last three weeks.
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You would be more convincing if you at least tried to sound like you weren't on a crusade.Prediction: If Orton stares down receivers as per usual, Charles Woodson will have two INTs on Sunday.
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I think this game is going to be much closer than people expect, unless the Raiders are playing for first overall draft pick. And I don't think they are going to. I think they're going to stick with Carr at QB, and not go for Mariota. One win will not make even close enough of a difference in their draft options to make easing off a home game worth it. Especially considering the drama surrounding their stadium, and the tenuous nature of staying in Oakland. The Raiders are going to show up on Sunday to win one at home.
Unfortunately, that's a big "if."If the o-line can play well, easy win.
If the o-line is mush, it will be close, defense will need to carry.
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I would to add O-line to this. In fact, I think Orton (who's biggest downside is his lack of mobility, IMO) would be a much more effective QB with a stable pocket.Win one more and mission accomplished!
Seriously, the barometer for success for this team can not be making the playoffs, exclusively. This team is a QB away from being very, very good.
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This one comes off as just whiney. There are so many varying opinions on these boards that I don't believe the word "dissent" can really apply. And, at what point are "ignorant fans keeping others from posting?" You've started an entire thread based on what I presume to be what you consider "dissent." And you're still here.I don't have the time to explain the offensive issues this team has had.. where it began, or where it is. I've tried that in other posts. You see an O limited by talent. I see an O being held back by lack of attention to details. What "makes this board a joke" is when ignorant fans keep others from posting their dissent.
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God, I hate it when we're favored...
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Jeez, cut it out!Marrone, Hackett, Orton and EJ should be cut loose asap.
Promote Schwarz to HC , and let him hire a professional offensive staff.
Our quarterbacks are incapable of making plays, and that isn't gonna change.
Not for Orton.. not for Manuel. They aren't any good. Period.
Marrone and Hackett have been blessed with a defensive and special team unit that can wreck games.. while their timid offensive schemes do nothing to challenge and threaten the opponent.
Enough!
Get a guy with some balls to play QB.. and coaches with the balls to turn him loose.
What a friggin shame!
Schwarz is excelling at DC, so lets promote him to HC, where in the past, he hasn't excelled.
Cut Orton, and EJ, and replace them with... er... somebody else ? Who exactly???
Our team has progressed to 8-6, and next week we play the miserable Raiders. We are likely looking at a 9-7 season, which would be our best since '04- a record that has not been better since '99. But, CUT MARRONE. TIME TO REBUILD!!!
What are you smoking??? (I wish there were a bong-smoking emoticon)
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I'm going to completely disagree with this. We have an average QB, and the O-line looked utterly horrible. I just don't know how better QB play is going to elevate these guys. Maybe if we had a QB who was the slightest bit mobile, and could run away when the pocket falls apart after 2.2 seconds, we wouldn't notice just how bad they played today, but probably not. Our O-line is a mess!If we had a top tier QB this line would look really good.
Today though is not the day to go on about all that. We just beat a top tier team, Playoffs are still possible, first time with 8 wins in 10 years. Good day to be a Bills fan. This team is really close to being a powerhouse again.
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He was terrible this game, that's for sure.
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Really exciting game to watch. Our D is amazing. Schwarz, IMO, is a definite upgrade over Pettine.
But, wow, our O-line is terrible! Glenn had a terrible game! TERRIBLE!
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I would think this would be a harder match up than Denver- even on home turf. We severely limited Manning's passing game. I don't imagine that sort of success agains Rogers. Also, I think the playoff implications for GB are more profound than for the Bills. GB is still playing for their division, and also home field advantage. GB has one of the best home field advantages in the league, IMO, and I think in their eyes home field advantage puts them in the Super Bowl.
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How wild would it be to have Jim Harbough as our OC, and Jim Schwarz as our DC?
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Morrone's ability- or lack thereof- notwithstanding, passing off "Marrone = Jauron," as some sort of coherent analysis is silly. Using that as the reason that Manuel has underperformed is even sillier.Please stop. Your premise that the Bills are not Jauronball by picking out the one game they threw the ball a lot is just plain silly.
On top of that, in this one game which they passed the ball a lot, 80% were short passes. In a game in which scoring touchdowns was the only way they would be able to win it.
The Bills have an offense that does not take chances. It's a fact and there's no denying it.
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Watching Orton try to scramble is like watching Chandler trying to run after a catch.Watching Orton try and scramble is like watching Burt Reynolds in the last 20 seconds of the original longest yard. At least EJ gives us that weapon of having to use a LBer to spy. It would be great if he could read a flipping defense though.
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