Stanley Lombardi

We're a non-factor in hockey, haven't won in baseball, have seen our "best athletes in the world" from the NBA embarassed annually for years and years now. I would call all of these facts. Which of these facts am I not fathoming? Deion Sanders as a striker is conjecture. Brian Moorman is a fast punter, but never appeared on anything other than a division 2 or 3 college level in track. These are figments. I fathom facts, and you fathom figments. But we both fathom.

I got out the microscope and the binoculars, smokinandjokin, but I've yet to locate a winner in your very laborious post. A whole bunch of promises and excuses, but the trophies seem to be on somebody else's shelf. The rules, the tournament set-up, guarantees, rankings, our great junior varsity squad...but no trophy.

Thanks! The topic was meant to place our footbal heroes in a proper athletic perspective. When the American athlete goes against the world, he is shown to be mediocre. No one has refuted that premise in the replies so far. There has been bluster, chest-thumping, conjecture, and (most of all) excuses--but no refutation. I do think that we as football fans should understand the very small pool of talent that our "stars" compete against. It's akin to competing to be all-league in a talent market the size of Buffalo vs. a talent market the size of L.A. or New York. Questions like this interest me about sports and culture. If they don't interest you, then just beat your man-boobs like the rest of 'em! And go on to the next topic about the subtleties of the off-tackle slant! Or the ever-enduring fascination with whom we should select in the 4th round... I'm also here for fun--and I'm enjoying it as you twits bring forward one weak, pathetic reply after another!

You boys seem to enjoy being the world's B word!

If you had read my initial post, I was positive about our our international track teams. It was the big-$$ sports I was mocking. Welcome aboard. Before I leave, I would like to let you know (any friend would, to keep you from further public embarassment) that gold "medal" is spelled with a 'd.' We lead the world in over-hyped athletes--and in the least bang for the educational buck!

Oh, where did I put my world atlas? Can you make a list of the international competitions our "greats" have won? Don't you see that the rest of the world counts wins, while you are counting pipe dreams. Dream on. USA wins lately = zero. Kelly's excuses = (nobody but USA apologists care).

Thanks for your thoughtful reply, Pollyanna. But we have taken our very best into these situations and have not only gotten beat, but hammered. Then we regrouped and got hammered again.

You mean except for the fact that in almost every sport, the Americans are the guys who get beat?

I'm an avid Bills fan, but I'm also a fan of international, Olympic-type sports. The other day at work a guy said that the only sport the USA is good at any more on the world stage is football. I said that's because football is not on the world stage... Our golfers get blown away in the Ryder Cup (or whatever it's called where we annually get taken apart by the Europeans). Our basketball 'dream teams" win internationally, but only in their dreams. Our baseball could not win an international tournament that began last year. Our soccer doesn't win Our hockey doesn't win. I don't know who our tennis players are anymore. Track still does well, but not great. Our "great" football athletes are competing against the fewest people in the world for their positions. If we started to open it up to international competition, our "world's greatest athletes" would be selling shoes, or crack, in Des Moines or Kansas City... "Impossible," we said about our basketball players, but now they are the world's B word. Half of Samoa seems to be playing nose tackle in the NFL, and they just heard about the sport yesterday. Think about this, provincial American slobs and wimps, when you diss soccer players, track athletes, et. al.-- if the entire world cared about football, our hero Nate Clemen$ (or Clement$ or Clement or however he wants it spelled/pronounced) would likely be playing semi-pro in Peoria. Big fish in a small pond.

"Good" is not confined to any color. Cablelady, as always, gets it.

"Men on the average are taller than women" is not racist. We are making progress.

Not necessary. Just stop writing what color a person happens to be. It's so simple, but you guys just can't seem to break the addiction. Keep your hair.

If you say, "He's a backup safety, a guy who overcomes a lack of size/athletic ability to play in the NFL," it isn't racist. To throw "white" in the sentence just before the word "backup" is racist. But it's heartwarming to see two of you race-mongers having a public display of affection for one another. Touching.

It is definitely bothering you. You are way back on your heels, on the defensive. You are easy prey.

This is called retreat, but to be kind we'll call it "cutting your losses." This is the first wisdom you've shown today. Remember, if it's slow you mean, spell it s-l-o-w. Isn't this easy!

Then just say, "Slow," if slow is what you mean. See, wasn't that easy! You'll get your point across and not perpetuate racism, all at the same time!!!

Anybody who mentions race in this context is, de facto, racist. This board is crawlin' with your kind. You can't give one significant reason for mentioning race in this regard. Until you stop, you perpetuate. And don't lay the holier-than-thou tag on me. I am just sick unto death about hearing what color people are. WTF does this have to do with whether or not Leonhard stays or goes?

Wow. Wisdom is what's under 'Kelso's Helmet.'

Despite rooting for the Chargers, I couldn't help but notice that the best player in the game was Tom Brady. .

Classic!

The Bills got a 1983 draft pick--which turned into Jim Kelly-- by trading what player in 1978?

Which 3 or more cities his child support checks are adressed to will be botherin' his mind too much for him to contemplate any other geography.

I stand corrected-- This classic thread definitely reveals what a pathetic loser IBTG81 is. But one person remains convinced that IBTG81 is not gullible, nor star-struck. Now let the sympathy votes flood in for this pathetic, gullible, star-struck loser who slandered Bledsoe--on the say-so of a person he'd never seen before. Have at it, bleeding hearts!

"Rack him!" This is a classic thread... IBTG81 tried to tell us the inside scoop--that Bledsoe is an as*hole. Turns out we know nothing about Bledsoe--but we find out what a pathetic, gullible, starstruck loser that IBTG81 is.

Sen-friggin'-sational writing!