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Maybe, maybe not... He did have to place it it there.
Haven't we learned form the DF/RJ debacle?
I have no doubt that JP is the future... He will play when they feel he is ready.
We are just bitter fans because we were teased with it all and fell short.
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Could he have thrown that nice 50 yard strike to Lee Evans?
I don't disagree with you but, you use hindsight.
The question is not if JP could have gave us that game but, could JP have won it?
The answer is no.
And of course you are not gonna start someone without the hope of winning.
And you can thank Drew that he has one of those rings.
He helped out in the AFC championship game and did not cause a cancer in the 2001 locker room.
JP will start when the coaching staff feels he is ready... And I will back it 100%.
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STOP SMOKING!
STOP SMOKING!
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Not true. The defence actually played well for most of the game. Clements scored on a pick to put us ahead and in a great position to win the game. Drew, because he sucks a$$ so much, promptly gave the game back (yes after Lindell missed so of course its his fault. The Bills psyche is so fragile it couldnt handle it?) with a move he has perfected. The remarkable " pat, pat, hmmmm, what do I do now? panic attack and sack/fumble/td for the other team" combo.
Didn't somebody fumble a return? I call it a wash.
Do you think...
His problem is he should have audibled out of that play to a run?
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I know people will say I'm sticking up for Drew, but I watched that play. An unblocked defender came from the line of scrimmage. Yeah, he was an outside rusher, but he didn't rush from very far outside. Drew had just barely finished dropping back when the defender arrived. The most he could have done would have been to protect the football while he took the sack. Criticize him for fumbling by all means, but the sack itself was the result of the wrong blocking scheme being called.
I agree Kurt... I was just gonna say that to Mark but, deleted it... You can't say he folded... He stuck it out to the bitter end under the withering blocking on that play. I noticed that he stepped to the side and up and then the pocket just engulfed him.
Again criticize him for the fumble... He really didn't have much opition except take the sack.
It looked like a pack of mad dogs coming after him with one intent... The ball!
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Starting Drew was the right thing to do in 2004. Long term, It doesn't benefit the Bills to commit to Bledsoe, since he proved against top teams, he folds like a cheap tent and completely loses his poise.
So get Losman the heavy work in the long off-season program and multiple mini-camps, prior to Summer camp. Whether it's the opener or a few games into the 2005 season, Losman should get his shot. Otherwise, just accept losing twice to the Pats and any good team. Plus you can forget the Playoffs. Bledsoe is entering year 13 and will never improve. He'll only get worse.
I sort of agree Mark. That is with the Bills.
That's a long 13 years for a 32 year old player.
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I totally agree with you Mickey.
On another note.
Others:
I know I said a lot and made comparisions... My intent was not the way some saw it. I was arguing that DB has done no worse than other great losing QB's in "Big" games. I agree the problem might be getting him to those big games yet, his win-loss record isn't that much off other great "losing" QB's. This leads me to the belief that while DB seemed to never be good enough to take his team over the top, most of the teams DB has been on underachieved to the point of just "missing" and particpating in those "Big Games."
Sunday was a "Big" game for the Bills, no doubt... Drew laid a "stinker" down yet, the team also laid down a "stinker" too. This really compounds the problem with evaluating him, it has been his problem all along. He embodies the team and almost always seems to absorb the other troubles of the team, never really rising above it with his own personal success. This is why I LIKE DB. He seems to be a lightning rod for the team he plays on. You can argue it as arrogance that he personifies the team as "his"... It is not a selfish or arrogant act.
Maybe he is hopeless but, one can't argue his character and committment to the "team" concept. In this day and age it is refreshing to see these qualities in a person... Unfortunately, when these people can't get the job done adequately, people unfairly paint them as "losers." Which in all essenence, these people are far from being that.
Peace.
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Actually... It should have been USC v. Auburn... Auburn has only been giving up 11 points per game... I would like to see SC up against that D?
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You bet!
It is all about quality... Why spend way too much on things that are throwaway? Buy something that is built well and serviceable... It will last.
Anyway, If I am gonna giveaway other people's money freely... Why shouldn't I do it in luxury?
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Actually, mostly through the NE, they still heat with heating oil... Which in all essence is off-road diesel fuel.
Techies out there? Am I correct in this fact?
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For what its worth, I know that we find almost nothing to agree on but it was an CTS that I traded in on the 300C. The CTS was a fine car, but just not the same feeling when I step on that Hemi.
The addition of the ESP (Electronic Stability Program) with the rear wheel drive helps tremendously in the snow. I was surprised. Actually I wiated until there was some snow on the ground to test drive it again, and that is when I made my decision.
Either way you will be happy, I would just suggest giving the 300C a real good test drive before you decide.
Good luck.
I will... I am torn... I really like the styling on the Caddy a bit better.
I have never had any trouble with a Chyrsler product. I still have an LHS that is 10 years old and never gave me a lick of trouble and is very easy to maintain!
Thanks!
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I know they could do a lot worse but what is your point ? We should settle for 9-7 and no playoffs ? The Bills won MULTIPLE games in 2004 due to a high number of huge plays on ST's and Defense. We can't depend on that to carry us again. The Offense needs to wake up and show some consistency against the good teams. Not the average to bad teams we beat during our 6 game winning streak.
I'm not willing to settle for a QB who's play is in clear decline. He's costing us games, not winning them.
Unfortunately we are gonna have to this year... It does pain me to no end.
I agree... Until the coaching staff decides to pull the trigger, I will have to back them and support their choices being a Bills fan in all.
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I just love it when you make grand proclaimations! Sure you aren't related to BF?
See Joe! That is exactly what the man needs... You should be his mentor... You could take him far!
AND I ONLY GIVING YOU GUYS SPIRITED DEBATE AND A HARD TIME... I JOKE AND CAN SEE THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD!
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Out of what 48 games?
Hindsight my friend. Hindsight.
I guess every game is big to you... I can't argue with that.
You think it is gonna get better starting someone else? Fine?
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Illini, you list stats. I've seen Bledsoe pass far better QB's, in many career catagories, in Yards, TD's etc. I'm not impressed whatsover. Watch when the HOF voters look at him. Your logic suggests Bledsoe is a lock, since the people you compare him to are already in.... I have doubts he'll ever get in.
Fouts never had a good consistent D/running game in San Diego and was forced to play airball for years. Marino much the same. Try and outscore your opponents was what they had to do. They had a bullseye on them at all times and still delivered.
Bledsoe hasn't had a 300 yard passing game in 30 games. He's not carrying this team at all. A completely different type of player who wasn't half as good as Fouts or Marino.
The issue is his present play. He's been on a steep decline since the middle of 2002. I don't care what he did in the 90's. I care about playing well in big games in the present day... and he stinks.
My logic should be a lock but, I know it IS NOT.
DB's rep will precede him... The internet will surely not help him.
He hasn't played any really big game with Buf until Sunday.
Compare him with other HoF Qb's that may be marginal?
Tittle, Jurgenson.
DB has some more years left... The stats will add up. That alone might get him in.
My point is, the Bills could DO A LOT WORSE... I think as fans we really think it is easy to get a QB that stays healthy and can play.
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Wow... Out of the top 12 D's... 7 are NOT in the playoffs!
They say that D's win championships but, O's get you there? Or at least a balanced D and O?
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I agree! Everybody probably thinks I am pro-DB till the end... It is just not true!
Obviously you evaluate both in camp and pre-season. Lay out the ground rules... DB has character, is a "team" player and will except it. Lay EVERYTHING out on the table.
Most likley DB will win out earlier (But, don't be predisposed, EVALUATE... Anything can happen)... If he becomes a liability in TWO straight losses... Start JP!
Peace!
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Yeah, well I suppose I can give him the benefit of the doubt since this is a character issue......but I think he's made some statements in the last year that are borderline arrogant. If he was backing them up with his play, that's one thing.......but this guy leaves plenty of question marks after the game is over.
If nothing else, it's time for JP to be the numero dos.
I here you... I think you have to be a little arrogant to play QB in the NFL? If you weren't, you would never last.
Arrogance is a mighty subjective word.
If Drew is the starter next year.........
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That is silly... He might have done that, true... But... He has got to play the WHOLE game... You just can't pick and choose plays... It doesn't work that way... Again HINDSIGHT.
Come on...