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ExiledInIllinois

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  1. It's not a better world if people who do ridiculous things are rewarded in the courts for their behavior.  It's the means to an end.

    Wrong.  It's about protecting me FROM them.  Because the courts aren't doing an adequate job.

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    I genuinely don't believe they are rewarded. To you it might seem that way. I just don't see it that way... Money just makes them a happy idiot. In the back of their mind, they still now they are an idiot... Rich yes, idiot the same.

     

    We are a better society.

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    So?  One reason that common sense is so uncommon is the ever pervasive "idea" that we can legislate intelligent behavior.  News flash:  the populous is dumber than ever before, despite the litany of regulations to the contrary.

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    You know me. Those are nice talking points. I just don't believe that. I would agree that humans lose a certain cognitive ability because they adapt to the changing enviroment or technologies.

     

    What we lose, we gain other abilities.

     

    Again, nice populist talking points.

  3. Which increases the cost of the final product which is passed on to the consumer. Why the hell should I pay more to protect the stupid people from themselves?

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    Again, I agree. Just like insurance where you pay for an uninsured motorist.

     

    Because you are REASONABLE, SENSIBLE. There will always be idiots out there. It is not about you protecting them. It is about keeping the whole of society balanced.

     

    You are better than those that "just don't get it."

     

    Nothing is perfect. Yet, we live the greatest humans ever lived. We live the safest and the longest. All the time those numbers are getting better for the REASONABLE ones. The unreasonable ones will always find a way to finish themselves off.

     

    It isn't about making it a perfect world but, a better world. That we are doing.

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    There are no safety fences in place on the parking garage.

     

    "There was a very, very short length of fence that was completely ineffective in preventing this from happening," D'Assaro said.

     

    Well, we will see what the courts think? I don't know the make up or the design, it is for the courts to decide if things were on the up and up.

     

    Don't get wrong, I am not taking sides here.

     

    The thing is to LEARN form this a progress... Therefore putting even more onus on the idiots unreasonable acts.

     

    Again, you don't have to break the bank to learn from your OVERSIGHT.

  5. According to the article, a fence was put up. The idiots still got around it. It gets down to personal responsibility after that. Why should the parking garage put even more money into it?

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    I am sorry, let me go back and re-read that. If that was the case, then they made a reasonable attempt and knew about the dangerous situation.

     

    Sorry for missing that.

  6. That's enough common sense, Ken.  We can't have people being responsible for themselves - as it would put Liberals out of business.

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    It is common sense. It is also crying poor-mouth.

     

    Like when handrails are put up around the area I work at. Making them 42" verses 36" isn't going to break the bank. Of couse the old standard is grandfathered in until a major rehab.

     

    You might not think of it but, the shorter railings, people are more apt to subconscienciously sit on them... Maybe get fall back and get injured.

     

    It is all about making a REASONABLE attempt. Obviously, you can't think of everything somebody will do. We, evolve and learn from our design mistakes... Not go backwards...

  7. To what extent? You can bankrupt your company or make your products so unbelieveably expensive that you price yourself out of the market. At some point, people need to take responsibility for their actions.

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    I agree.

     

    I don't think adding railings to the parking ramps in Orlando would have broke the bank.

     

    Yes, people should be responsible. My point was you have to a least make an attempt to avoid areas where idiots will abuse them. Then, you can say that you made a reasonable attempt. Remember, the people that built the thing are the reasonable ones, not the idiots jumping. By doing this you give yourself more ammunition defending your project and bringing more burden to the idiots out there.

     

    If it was left up to the "natural selection" way, you would have wrongful situations created that would be the opposite of what you cited. Basically, things would be cut to the point where they were actually faulty or structually unsound in order to squeeze every buck out of the project. You could look back in history to find that way of thinking.

     

    Answer: Happy medium. A cost analysis verses design implementation. In this case, something will have to be added on. Again, I don't think it will break the bank.

     

    But, then again, talking like the rest of this thread... Railing against the idiots and all the other populist talk is so much more fun! :ph34r:

  8. Some call it dangerous. Others call it Natural Selection.

     

    It reminds me of a quote: "You can try to make something idiot-proof, but the world will always build a better idiot." You can install a fence, but they will still try to find a way around it. Regardless of what you impliment, they will find a way around it.

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    I agree.

     

    Yet, you have to always try and impliment. Without that it becomes dangerous. Never give up, no matter how futile it seems.

  9. What are you afraid of?  :P

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    ^^^^^^^^The winged monkeys!^^^^^^^^

     

    Look at the post above, I see Eryn hovering!

     

    I just think it would be interesting dicussion to talk about support vs. policy, historical analysis. I just don't want to get in a heated emotional, patriotic, anti-America talk... The rhetoric is not what it is about.

     

    Anyway, I don't float too many LAMPS out there!

     

    :D:D

  10. Good point KH. One can support the soldiers but not support the war.

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    By no means am I supporting the letters, please don't get me wrong.

     

    This is an interesting topic that could lead to a lot of well thought out debates about policy, support and what not.

     

    Unfortunately, it would get real emotional and heated... Hence, turn ugly.

     

    I am unwilling to go there... Only this far. :doh:

     

    Respectfully,

     

    EII

  11. Actually, I'd say they are thinner because they're doing everything they can to keep warm 8 months of the year.  Plus, you burn alot of calories when you're having sex - and they're getting bent over by their government at every turn.

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    Wow!

     

    Anything to justify obsese Americans. I heard everything?

  12. Yesterday at Buddy "The Woder" dogs house it was sunny and 60 degrees which put a hurt on what little snow we have. We are supposed to get pounded with 2" of snow tonight.

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    Pounded with 2 inches? Or do you mean 2 feet (2')?

     

    :doh::lol::doh:

  13. Terrible.  The city is poorly run and can't provide the services required.  The fast ferry failed for alot of reasons and adding a bloated bureaucracy to manage it isn't likely to make it work better.

     

    Reality check:  Canadiens don't want to visit Rochester.

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    :blink::blink:

     

    Off the beat places like Wilson Harbor work better for sneaking boat loads of "American smokes" back into the Dominion!

  14. The only reason they are thinner than we are is because EVERYTHING is taxed a ridiculous amount, even food. therefore it's too expensive to buy too much food.

     

    See, taxes really CAN fix everything.

     

    :blink:

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    Good point Joe! ;)

     

    So then, the government REALLY is keeping us fat and lazy on the couch.

     

    Why would they want that?

     

    But, then again, YOU really control the spoon you put in your mouth?

     

    :lol:

  15. Sorry, but for almost 300 years, my ancestors built Canada. I have numerous friends in Canada who are dear friends, and they don't deserve this outrageous bashing by someone who wants to look like the big and bad American. Canada is a very wonderful place to me that I enjoy visiting every time, since I am only 30 minutes from Quebec. If someone wants to move to Canada, it is their right, as was the MILLIONS of immigrants who moved to the United States. The NERVE of this Leo character!

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    Exactly.

     

    Why all the ridicule and negative speak? They want to move there, fine.

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