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If a plan achieves nothing, why even bother? Whatever, just add "JEFF GANNON!" to the list that already includes "HALLIBURTON!" and "NO BLOOD FOR OIL!"
But we didn't find "nothing." We found everything short of weapons stockpiles, including a dictator thriving by bribing UN officials and weapons programs that were alive and well, if not active. The Duelfer Report, if you can get past the ridiculous headlines when it was released, made that clear.
I got to admit saturating everybody with your opposition's buzzwords are good at doing the trick. The more you staurate, the less effective they become. To see the truth you have to look beyond those buzzwords. Most people stop right there, finding no need to argue on. That is not what I am about, look past those words. I isn't that simple.
And the fact of the matter is that we still didn't find those stockpiles. So is it fair to say, they (if existed) couldn't be used with 45 minutes?
I just don't believe it, never did and never will. My life is too short to worry about the boogy man.
Is that what it really boils down to? A dictator thriving?
I can try and make it simple: Mass government bungling and incompetence.
Wait, what are you paying for a gallon of gas? Just wait till we start paying $3.00 a gallon regularly... I gonna laugh my arse off, while everybody panics.

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The question really becomes why this woman's life is apparently worth so much more than others?
I don't know anything about her and have no reason to believe that she wasn't a lovely person. And I surely don't know why she was struck down in her youth - but we all know it happens.
However it is a little ironic that politicians are rushing to save this one person, whilst there are no doubt others in the same predicament whose families haven't been able to garner the publicity.
To say nothing of the fact that many of these same people, who talk about the sacredness of life, see no issue with executions.
I can't say for sure, but I don't think it's up to human beings to decide that one life is more sacred than others.
This is a lose-lose situation, It's so sad for everyone.
I have a sister-in-law (my bud, I love her to pieces) in an institution who's not much more than a vegetable, and it's very sad. However she lives without feeding tubes and machines, and when she cannot survive without being on feeding tubes and machines, that's God's will and her family will do the brave and unselfish thing and let her go in peace.
Thanks blzrul!
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No, it sounds like the single dumbest and most ineffective "conspiracy" ever conceived. It achieved nothing and, even if they *were* looking for a sleeper cell reporter, why pick someone like that? They couldn't groom someone with a clean background and actual experience in the field? None of the Guckart theories make any sense.
Who is linking him to Valerie Plame (last scene in a photo shoot for Vanity Fair)? Why would they need him to 'out' Valerie Plame?
As for WMD's, I recall just about every intelligence agency both in the U.S. and abroad being pretty confident about Saddam's capabilities and there is still question as to whether or not materials were transported to Syria on the eve of the war.
Ahhhh, but that is the beauty of the plan... Make it so unbelievebly stupid that no one could accept it.
These are the 'pubes your dealing with. Can I atriculate myself better without putting myself in a TBD "trick-bag?"


If I am being overtly cryptic, I apologize, just let it go.
Not hard to get everybody on board out of fear of being wrong.
And what about my belief I floated out there in 2002 as a young annonymous poster, soon to be registered. You guys lambasted him as a person who was stirring the "pot". All the while the drums of war were beating, I was saying hey wait... "What if we attack and find nothing". I really wish the "way back machine" would "crawl" over 12-02, we would sure to find the mass hysteria that abounded on this board while a "fresh" voice gets tossed (it is the same now). Still don't dare to voice those opinions here with the rhetoric dogs, emotional midgits at your heels. Yes, and this has to do with WMD's and nothing else. Again, I apolgize if other things get tangled up in it... My point is the VOICES WERE THERE, they just failed to listen to them and look deeper. After 12 years, they crapped it all away for a lousy 6 months... Out of what? Fear of the truth? How would they ever explained that intelligence had failed them for so long? The war was the easy way to "tack" around this problem!
I'd really hate to go shopping with you guys when you are determined to buy something, anything. Even if it fails your in store inspection, I fear it would be going home with somebody!
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All you got to do is check the "last active" cat in his screen name. It shows he hasn't logged on since 12-30?
I guess he is not logging in.
Reading, I don't know?
I am sure the latest tactics are working?
I'll remember you guys when I want to start a business. I will file it under "How to gain more customers."


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A rape is indeed an act of violence. However, pedophilia is more about sex and more importantly, power and control. Many pedophiles have a prediliction to youngsters much as you or I have innate desires for the opposite sex or as homosexuals for the same sex. Its programmed into the brain and no counterprogramming can undo it unless you go to the source which is basically the testes. I'd be all for child molestation as a capital offense (with the exemption for 18 year olds bangin their 17 year old girlfriends)
I hear what you are saying but, what does making it a capital offense do to deter the programming in the brain.
The issue is still there.
Is your point to put them away and never return to society? I can see this point. What do we do when the "corrections" system gets overburdened?
It is quite a quandry if it is some natural defect in the person?
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Actually, I think this Schiavo thing IS great. We should start starving terrorists and murderers. I don't want to have to foot the bill for their humane treatement.
Come to think of it, why don't we starve retards? And then when we're done with the retards, we can starve the liberals.
I kind of like the sound of this, who's with me?
Hey watch what you are saying JSP, I can't afford to skip a meal buddy. Not like some of you.
Okay, okay, maybe just not that many?

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Carp are a fine delicacy if properly prepared. You would first have to get a live one and keep it in some good, clear water rather than the murky rubbish they prefer for about a week and then the muddy taste normally associated with them is gone, leaving a fine food fish behind.......hmmmmmm
That is what I hear and have read. Removing the "mud vein" properly is critical?
Aren't the ones they eat in Japan... Raised in pristine lakes, corn feed, what not?
Here, in America, they started getting a bad "rap" almost 70 years ago. There are various reasons for that reputation. Many would proberly be right, socially and econmically.
Man, I can get going on about a dozen "social" tangents.
Only in America, BritBills!

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Oh... Sometimes when they are spawning, the number of fish and size of them is intense. Water clarity is good with a lot of zebra mussel action. You can see the carp on the downside of the lower sector gates hovering around the leaking water from the chamber when the pit is high. It is amazing, you could literally gaff hundreds of them if you wanted to.

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I didn't read the article. They must be talking about Asian carp?
They have been making they way up the waterways from the south.
Out here on the Illinois river they have a "electric" fence at Lemont, IL (north of Joliet, just below the SAG junction)... Supposely, it is suppose to shock them so they turn back from entering the Great Lakes eco-system.
I remember back in '96 or so... The USGS was shocking fish in our lower pool below the controlling works (dam)... Some fish were weighing in 45-50 pounds... They couldn't believe the sizes. I still don't believe people eat them, THEY DO. The contaminents have to be intense on this stretch of the Calumet.
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Congrats to your son as a competitor, and to you as a father.
When you do your review of the left, please consider including how they have stopped being freedom demanding "McGovernites" and become intolerant, dictatorial, behavioral controlling makers of rules. The pot smoking, acid tripping people who were frolicking nude in the mud at Woodstock are now on campus stifling free speech, and in NYC purporting a smoking ban (in bars), and passing laws against loud air conditioners and bells on ice cream trucks. Deny this at your leisure. I know it to be true.
Btw, being a Bills fan, imho, IS something special for children. My daughters view me as a hard core man who will NEVER give up. They have seen me not abandon my beloved Bills, and know that it will never happen. I have bought them Bills shirts and they wear them with pride. The Bills symbolize more than just a football team. They are a cold weather franchise in a depressed economy, yet the fans just wont quit. They have seen me accosted at Disney, local gas stations, and other places by other Bills fans who saw me wearing the logo. They know how special it is.
My oldest wears Bills clothes at an Ivy League college. Fellow students, knowing where she is from, are often confused. Truthfully, she knows little about the team, although Big Sam is her favorite because she saw his touchdown dance and was stunned.
What she DOES know, is to stand by her beliefs, and to not quit. Her sisters feel the same way. Yeah, being a Bills fan IS something special.
Exactly you got that right... Never quit! Never stop demanding more from yourself.
Your first part:
When you do your review of the left, please consider including how they have stopped being freedom demanding "McGovernites" and become intolerant, dictatorial, behavioral controlling makers of rules. The pot smoking, acid tripping people who were frolicking nude in the mud at Woodstock are now on campus stifling free speech, and in NYC purporting a smoking ban (in bars), and passing laws against loud air conditioners and bells on ice cream trucks. Deny this at your leisure. I know it to be true.
I am not denying it. Resume of a Boomer:
Born: 1950
1950-1959: Plopped in front of tube in it's infancy.
1960-1969: Rebelled against parents and "establishment"
1970-1979: Still not in their "prime earnings years", so they decide to protect the enviroment?
1980-1989: This is where the pill kicks in. I got the looks, you got the brains, lets make lots of money! Offspring on the way.
1990-1999: Lose site of it all, decide to "reel" in the kids where they went wrong.
2000's: Hyperprotective and contolling the power cord.
Beyond: Retirement. I got mine. Let somebody else clean up the mess.
Where did it go wrong?
At the "Greatest Generation" for producing the "Me Generation."
BTW... Pass that doob brother, I was born in 1968... Peace, Love, and Happiness!

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Oh...
Way off base but, my favorite scene in Ten Commandments is happening. Turn to ABC, Moses is just about to return from exile and turn his stave into a cobra!


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Great post EIL. I fully agree with every word about Wal Mart (surprised?
. Yeah, fight the unions, use illegal aliens, and let the government pay. Nice if you can get away with it. 
Btw, guess who was once on the advisory board of Wal Mart?
Hint......the initials are HC. Care to comment?

The one only "Hill (ary) Bill?"
Everybody is bound to crack a few eggs. IMO, still think her intrinsic good out weighs the bad.But Bill, I really am not surprised. I understand you as a good, loving family man... I really respect that.
WARNING! WARNING! LAMP BELOW!
On the other side of things... What surprises many here is my rather conservative side... Something that they just can't equate with what they think is liberal puke I spew.
I am due to post (when I get the gumption) a scathing and rather conservative review how the left in this country have watered down what competition means and how we approach and teach it to our kids... Which leads me to...
BTW... My son grabbed 2nd place, last night at his Cub Pack Pinewood Derby with his limo "Python". As his "mechanic" I felt rather "out foxed" by a technicality (which I thought about, yet, didn't think I had the technical skill to manually machine) that the other father-son combo employed and won by half a car length. If the finish line was another foot farther down the track, superior craftmenship whould have won out in the end (since the winner stopped dead on the track and second place took it off the track)!
I guess my son is learning what it means to be a Bills fan? I told him after the race he could "fire" me as his mechanic (boy that was a loaded question!) and he said no way! May God bless that angelic little boy!
:D Anyway, it is all about being a good sport, having fun, and congratulating the winner! But, hey... Isn't everbody SECOND...


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I am glad that Illinois is keeping track of them.
Anybody else in Illinois? You can get names, addresses, etc. for the whole state. Can search by zip, county, etc... They will tell you if the offender is compliant or not.
Here is the site. To enter you have to read the disclaimer and check "yes".
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Can you explain in detail how our current government and conglomerates are linked? If it's the tax cuts "for the rich" that's pretty weak. Many agree that it was those tax cuts that brought this economy back so quickly. Many people fail to realize how far and how fast the economy sank. The buildup and crash of 2000 was so similar to the crash of 1929 it's scary. By cutting taxes, government spending (yes, government spending) allowed so much money to be pumped back into the economy it was brought back to life pretty quickly compared to the depression that followed '29. Many years from now people will look back on this with amazement. But I'm expecting you'll not be one of them.
Tacitly.
Didn't somebody mention Wal-Mart and Tennessee a while back?
What was that all about?
Wal-Mart undercutting prices, paying depressed labor costs... Then having the personnel office tell perspective employees where they can get government assistance to "bridge the gap" so to speak.
What did it amount to? And extra 4K of tax dollars are spent to keep a Wal-Mart employee working?
Geesh! What a convoluted way to beat the system and line your pockets while racing towards the bottom.
And I thought I was pretty effed up... Oh, WAIT!


Original topic:
Wasn't Hitler's fear (Stalin) on his "left"?
It must be a "right"-"left" thingy?

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Good for the "Governator." Gerrymandering is one thing that always PO'd me!
Congressional Districts
Congressional Districts divide almost every state in the United States into two or more chunks; each district should be roughly equal throughout the entire country. Each district elects one Representative to the House of Representatives. The number of districts in each state is determined by the decennial census, as mandated by the Constitution. But districts are not mentioned in the Constitution. The United States Code acknowledges districting, but leaves the "how's" to the states (gerrymandering, however, is unconstitutional [as seen in Davis v Bandemer, 478 U.S. 109, though, the intent of gerrymandering is difficult to prove]).
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Aw, that's so darn cute. Two of the worst spellers at PPP banding together. It does my heart good to be the reason you two are putting aside your obvious differences to unify.
Why am I not suprised that EII knows the accepted spelling of a known hallucinogenic but regulary messes up tough words like "succumb?"
Mostly people type and write as they speak. It is not a big deal with me. If it really bothers you, I will try harder to proof even the common words.
Honestly, I knew it only as the color absinthe green. Looking further, I noticed it is also a green bitter liqueur formerly flavored with wormwood, anise, and other aromatics but now usually with a substitute for wormwood.
Keep up the good work... You never know what you (myself) might learn.
Thanks.
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South Cheektowaga (W. Seneca schools)/37/Chicago, IL (Steger)
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Barry Bonds - Ex-Girlfiend....
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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IMO, who cares if he used them?.. Did the rules exist to enforce them harder? Now clearly ban the use of them from now on in... Fix the enforcement, get strict and move on.
Still doesn't change what happened in the past, records, etc...
What has been happening is a loophole, numerous loopholes. So what? People take advantage of things like that... It is all fair and square till you close them.
No sense crying over something that is mucky and unclear. Fix that problem and move on.