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  1. 8 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

    That's what the popular guys on TV say. And gets repeated by the masses as nauseum. You know guys like Mel Kiper that literally  said if Jimmy Clausen didn't become a franchise QB he would quit.

     

    Each board is vastly different. And even then it's not a consensus. The Bills may have 5 guys rated top notch...and have it be different than the rest of the league. They could easily have a guy or two listed top that will be around at pick 10-15.

    Yes - it’s possible.  I guess we’ll see what happens.  My money is on a slight

    move up into the mid 20’s or a trade down rather than giving up one of our 2nds

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  2. 15 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

    I agree with this. Really, it's going to come down to individual evaluations and who falls within range, and there's no way to anticipate that with much accuracy. I can think of 3 or 4 players that might fall that would tempt me. I think Beane should be prepared to make a big move if something develops. If it doesn't, the strength of the draft is as you say. Either move up for a player you think can be elite, or, if anything, you'd like to find a way to maybe add a third rounder and have four picks in the first two days.

     

    I would consider moving up for Grant, who I like a lot, and for Barron. I personally really like Starks, even though I suppose folks would lose their minds if we took a safety in the first. And some folks have mentioned Golden. The only WR I would trade up for would be McMillan if he unaccountably fell within range, though if we end up going some combination of CB and DT early, I think Beane should add at WR either with the remaining second rounder, or a third rounder that he'd have to finagle. Kyle Williams would be my target. I don't think he makes it to day 3.

    Agree with all but golden.  I’d give up a day 3 for him….but I don’t think Beane would. 


    I’m all about Kyle Williams-  round 2?  Trade down from 62?  Trade up into rd 3?  Idk if he’s gonna be around in rd 4.  Give me Grant (most likely Harmon), Amos (more realistically Porter), Swinson (or Landon Jackson), Kyle Williams (or Thornton) and call it a draft. 

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  3. 22 minutes ago, sven233 said:

     

    And I actually agree with this in theory.  My issue is that I don't see this as a very star heavy draft.  I think there are a few of them, but I am not sure I see enough major impact players that will make it into the middle of the round.  I actually think there is a good chance you get the same player in terms of quality at 30 as you would at say 18 or 19.  Just not sure it is worth all you will have to give up to get there.  In other drafts, sure.....but I just don't see this one as a heavy star-laden draft.  But that's just me.  If Beane sees a guy in the late teens that he truly believes is one of the top players in the draft then, by all means, go get him.  As I sit here today, I just don't know who that guy is that will be worth using a 2nd rounder plus probably another pick to go up and get.  Now, if you want to move up a few spots by giving up a 4th or 5th, fine.....  But I am not eager to part with a 2nd for 10 spots or so in this draft.

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    I’d give up day 3 picks for Grant, Barron or Golden if they fall to within reach.  Definitely not a 2nd rounder for anyone.   

    22 minutes ago, sven233 said:

     

    And I actually agree with this in theory.  My issue is that I don't see this as a very star heavy draft.  I think there are a few of them, but I am not sure I see enough major impact players that will make it into the middle of the round.  I actually think there is a good chance you get the same player in terms of quality at 30 as you would at say 18 or 19.  Just not sure it is worth all you will have to give up to get there.  In other drafts, sure.....but I just don't see this one as a heavy star-laden draft.  But that's just me.  If Beane sees a guy in the late teens that he truly believes is one of the top players in the draft then, by all means, go get him.  As I sit here today, I just don't know who that guy is that will be worth using a 2nd rounder plus probably another pick to go up and get.  Now, if you want to move up a few spots by giving up a 4th or 5th, fine.....  But I am not eager to part with a 2nd for 10 spots or so in this draft.

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    I’d give up day 3 picks for Grant, Barron or Golden if they fall to within reach.  Definitely not a 2nd rounder for anyone.   

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  4. 8 hours ago, HappyDays said:

    This is not the year to trade up in the 1st round IMO. If Beane wants to flip one of his later 4ths to go up a couple spots I guess that's fine, but I would not want to part with either of our 2nds. The book on this draft class is that it has little top end talent, but a ton of 2nd and 3rd tier talent. With our first three picks we can likely get three players that are actually graded as being worthy of those spots. And that is not typically possible. So I would just stay put, especially since we have so many needs.

     

    The best bet is trading up into the 3rd round using our first 4th rounder. Minnesota is a good target because they only have 4 picks in the entire draft. Going from 109 to 97 would cost one of our late 5th rounders. 

    Agreed- but I wouldn’t mind trading a 4th to move up for Grant if he gets into the mid 20’s.  Definitely wouldn’t want to trade a 2nd to move up.  Ideally I’d love to pick 4-5 times in the first 3 but I really see Grant as the ideal pick for us and would pay 1-2 day 3 picks to make it happen.  

    4 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

    To me, this is exactly why it's the year to move up. 

     

    We need top end talent more then 2nd and 3rd tier guys added to the roster at this point. We need to add a difference maker and we actually have the ammunition to get it done. 

     

    On top of that it seems like a lot of teams may be open to moving down this year which may make this a buyers market and have to give up a bit less to get a deal done.

     

    If we move a 2 to go get a difference maker we have enough to get into the third and grab another tier 3 guy.

    But you aren’t going to be able to get the top tier guys.  They are top 10 picks and there are really only 3-5 of them (imo).  Are we going to land Hunter, Carter, Graham or Jeanty?  No.  So you’re going to get a 2nd 3rd tier guy whether you pick in the teens or at 30.  That’s the contending argument.  

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  5. 8 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

    He was a 7th round pick who has played in one glorified regular season game.

    I realize all of this.  He’s a QB with all the tools and well worth a 5th rd pick.  I would’ve traded a 4th for him if I were several teams. Including Buffalo (not that Ne would trade him to us imo)

     

    we’ve traded away less and received more

  6. 40 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:


    No question? ☺️ Why? Nobody has ever done it. What makes him so special? 

    I don’t think there’s any question that he’s a good enough of a WR and CB to play both sides.  His skill is what makes him so special.  
     

    I just don’t believe his body is so special that he would be able to do it for very long.  Might not even make it a couple games.  

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  7. 16 hours ago, Thrivefourfive said:

    Hunter. He’s dead set on playing both ways. Full. I’m not doubting him. Crazy things have happened. This would be unprecedented in the Super Bowl era?

    I don’t think there’s any question that he COULD play both full time.  I also don’t think there’s any question that he would be riddled with injury and his career could take a turn for the worse if he does.  Odds are that his body would break down.

  8. 17 minutes ago, warrior9 said:

    Warren in my favorite player in the draft and I do NOT like Penn State. I think he is an absolute problem in the NFL. My ONLY concern is that he turns out to be Gesicki. But I think his floor is Hock (or like a year 2 LaPorta, in terms of production) at very worst.

    Yeah I’m a big fan as well. Hope he ends up in the nfc

  9. 6 minutes ago, Logic said:

    Is Will Campbell still on the board at 14, or is my gummy just kicking in? :wacko:

    Yes- and the dolphins drafted a TE over him.  I’m a huge fan of Warren, but 🤦🏻‍♂️ Campbell should be a lock to Miami if he’s there 

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  10. 11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    If Vegas takes Jeanty I think Hampton to the Bears is plausible. I suppose I struggle to see it otherwise..... I think it would have to be Vegas and Chicago. 

    I think Denver is a possibility-  taking another UNC RB 35 overall 4 years ago may alter their thoughts- but Hampton would be awesome in Denver imo.  

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  11. 25 minutes ago, DJB said:

     

     

     

    Also @GunnerBill

     

    Yes he played in Colorado and the competition wasn’t great . But I’m confident this guy can be a star WR. I still have the same stance he will make a better WR than DB.

     

    His career will be fascinating to watch 

    Impressive for sure.  

     

    Overall, I just think he loses value for the team that drafts him if he plays WR full time. He can play corner full time while also playing 12-20 snaps on O.  
     

    If he plays WR full time, does he play any corner?  Or do they play at corner on obvious passing 3rd down and 4th downs?

     

     

     

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  12. 21 hours ago, NewEra said:

    Elite players will improve our chances of winning a Super Bowl.  I don’t think the lack of elite players is the reason we lost to KC last season.  Or the year before.  Or in 2021. 

     

    20 hours ago, FireChans said:

    Nothing and no one is a lock to make clutch plays.

     

    Josh Allen isn’t a lock to make clutch plays, but I would take him over the field, wouldn’t you? Doesn’t that make him the next best thing?

     

    I find this take very odd tbh. Do you have a method for “locks” to make clutch plays? Or a method to improve our luck? If so, can you please tell One Bills Drive before I die?

    The bold is my stance in this conversation.  So it shouldn’t be odd.   If that’s the reason we didn’t win SBs those years, it only makes sense that those players were locks to make plays. 

  13. 50 minutes ago, FireChans said:

    Very interesting take when you think the difference in the game was making a play or two on offense or defense.

     

    I personally believe that good players make more plays than bad players and elite players make more plays than good players. 

    As I said-  elite players would increase our chances- but they certainly aren’t locks to make clutch plays and imo, aren’t the reason we haven’t advanced further.  Non elite players are certainly capable of making big plays and have throughout history.  
     

    Yes-  Elite players would help

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  14. 5 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

    Zebras always seem to be force for evil, or at least one-sided judgment. Luck is something one can hardly prepare for, but having superlative players is at least a partial counter, because elite players have greater capacity to respond to those moments where a clutch play is needed. I don't think this is much beyond common sense, but if you think it is a bad take, have at it.

    Elite players will improve our chances of winning a Super Bowl.  I don’t think the lack of elite players is the reason we lost to KC last season.  Or the year before.  Or in 2021. 

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  15. Man, there’s some abomination takes here.  We had a great offense and a meh defense.  Make a big play on D or a catch on O and we may have been champs.  Make plays.  Call good plays on O and D.  Get some luck with injuries.  Did we lose the game because we lacked 1 or 2 elite players?  Not imo.  We lost because we didn’t make the clutch plays and had some bad luck (Benford, Rapp and every judgement call going against us).  
     

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  16. On 3/25/2025 at 7:50 PM, DJB said:


    I think there is more to it than that. Especially financially. WR’s are the ones getting paid and if he goes to NE or Cleveland he instantly becomes their #1 WR. NE already has two good corners and while Cleveland has a corner need they have been the one team that seems to be open to him playing both positions frequently. 
     

    I also think he’s a better WR than corner 

     

    However I do understand that playing full time corner and part time WR would be the easiest transition for him 

    You think he’s a better WR than corner huh?  I hadn’t heard anyone say that yet. Not disagreeing, as I’ve only watched a couple highlight tapes of him because he’s not really worth scouting as a potential Bills pick.  seems like the consensus says he’s a better corner.  
     

     

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  17. 2 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

    Most recent, no movement mock. Love the defensive haul, plus I think every pick is rosterable in 2025. 

     

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    That’s the ideal draft.  Trey Amos rd 2.  😂 I haven’t had much time to watch tape this year but I got a few hours in today.  If Amos were our pick at 30, I’d be very happy. Coming from a guy that really wants an impact DL more than anything.  I really like Amos’ game.  I think he should be a 1st rd lock

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