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For any other coach you be 100% correct. This is BB who is literally playing with house money and people here are happy with the shiny new QB and realize the Pats aren’t SB contenders and are a few pieces away. (If the D gels) BB last two drafts APPEAR be good with Dugger,Uche, Jones, Baremore, and probably Stevenson to name a few. in other words BB has job security he can play the medium to long game most other coaches can’t. (Gilmore wasn’t in the plans)

Maybe, but unlike Bonds or Clemens he was never implicated in it. The one report they refused to tell him what he supposedly tested positive for. I’m a true believer in innocent till a preponderance of evidence shows otherwise.. like with Clemens (others say he did it) and Bonds (also others say and say they witness he did it)

Sigh, there is a difference between stopping the run game from being effective and the run game getting -1 yards for the entire game. Aka they were blitzing him ALL night. Second the Pats O line should be a hell lot better than it has been, he has been hit more than almost any other QB over 4 games. Third is now the WB is responsible for drops and fumbles? Because that’s why they lost 2 of the 3 games this year. Lmao he isn’t a Pats fan. I also didn’t complain about it I SAID IT WAS HORRID but HORRID both ways. Meaning it didn’t effect the games outcome. Also anyone knows football tell ya the refs can call holding on every play if they wanted because there is always holding.

I think Wynn was shocked too. I can’t explain how or why they missed it, maybe they were afraid getting back to their car later lol.. I think the play calling is an effect of lack of O line protection and allowing him go deep. Also it’s kinda been the Pats playbook for 20 years.

The Refs were horrid last night, but thankfully both ways. The personal foul on Slater and fumble not a fumble.. the numerous times Judon was held and even the announcers saw it or when they did get away with PI with no call.. both sides got away with a few and got called on a few questionable as well.. so Imo there’s a wash. I mean he did break a record of most completions in a row by a rookie at 19 in the game so that was pretty amazing. I also meant “for a game winning drive” also he scored in the Saints game make it 21-13 with 9 minutes left but the D couldn’t make a stop. So we don’t know if he could have led a last minute drive.

First, I don’t believe he is the BEST QB in the draft, just the one looks the best so far. I do believe, outside of Lawrence who is a generational talent, he is the best fit for the Patriots amongst all the QBs drafted. (If that makes sense.) Also he has done enough, IMO for the team to be 2-2 right now if not 3-1, it’s been sloppy play around him costing them games. (Fumbles against Miami and TB) Right now I see him as the bright spot on an Offense that is struggling in areas they are suppose to be elite. That is in O line play and the running game. (They got -1 yards running last night! That’s Lion type bad running!) I haven’t watched the other rookies just see stats TE they able to run the ball at all? Last night he looked really good. IMO he looked amazing because they couldn’t run and the Bucs were blitzing him like mad and he still made plays. Now is he a superstar? Pfft no but as a Pats fan he is not the problem on O but rather the fumbles, poor O line play, and the inability to run is.

COST them 4 points? So basically a TD instead of a FG. (Mind you JJ fumbling on the 30 of TB we KNOW cost them a minimum of 3 points) His play has been the best of ANY QB drafted in this class and it’s not close. As for hype? Where we are saying it LOOKS like we have a QB but we have Xyz problems still. Did you see how he drove them down the field against Miami and TB for the game winning drives? One was stopped by a fumble by the RB, the other stopped because BB thought the kicker could hit the game winning FG from 56 yards out. Also how many rookies really show you they can just win a game this early? This is only week 4 and he has 4 TD passes which is only 3 less than Newton had all year! Lol His pocket presence will get better with time, I am more impressed with his calmness and ability to read the field. As for the deep ball that’s not really the Pats game plan but he can deliver it when needed he showed that in preseason and Alabama.

I am more shocked how poised he is, and how he actually goes threw his reads and delivers a very accurate ball. I really haven’t noticed what you mentioned probably because the throw is usually on target unless he gets hit as he throws. (Like the INT he threw last night and even that should have been caught or at the very least made an incomplete by the receiver.) Lmao OMG you had be so disappointed as it was actually the opposite happened and it APPEARS him and BB patched things up after the game when they talked for like 20 minutes. Brady also said in his post game that his entire relationship with BB was not accurately portrayed. (A lie I am sure but not shocked)

Lol I think you are just use to the effortlessness Allen shows throwing deep. Lol he can make the deeper throws he really hasn’t had time the first 4 games to show it.

right now Allen is the stud QB in the division, absolutely ZERO question about that. Do I expect Mac pass Allen ANYTIME soon? Hell no, but I’d love their to be some epic games in the future between them. I do believe (under the extremely small sample size) he is the second best QB in the East.. a very distant second. I don’t ever expect see another Brady but if Jones can be atop 10-12 QB then I will be very happy. (Allen IMO top 6 at least) All I want is fun games again, last year watching Newton was painful! Off topic a bit did you laugh as hard as I did at Steve B faces? I almost died laughing on my couch! I still say they should have gone for it on 4th and 3, I mean the last time Folk hit one that far was in 2011 lol. I agree was fun to watch, and I honestly thought Jones was going to get that win. Every game (minus Saints) he drove down the field to put the team in a spot to win and something out of his control happens.

First UGH on LeBron James. (I don’t like him at all lol) Again making that judgement based off of the protection he has been given so far isn’t fair. I mean that’s like saying what Allen would be based off of 4 pro games. Overall he isn’t getting 3 seconds back there. Mind you Jones makes dumb mistakes and holds on at times to much like any rookie, but overall the line has been inferior, to what is expected from such a talented group.

Wait so a QB who had ZERO run game. (I mean -1 yards yikes!) blitzed on roughly 50% of his drop backs and hit at least 15 times but still completes over 70% of his passes is just a game manager? Mind you they win tonight if BB had the courage to go for it on 4th in 1 inside the TB 45. Mac wasn’t the reason for the loss, the lack of an offensive line (Again) and a running game ( again) was. You see he can’t hit those 20+ yard passes because he doesn’t have the time wait for them to open up. weird how people like you said the same thing about Brady, curious were you calling Allen a bust to his rookie year? Yikes.. and that one time he was hit as he threw making the ball come up a bit short. That’s the point he doesn’t have time with this O line to wait for them get open and tonight the run game was less than none existent.

Actually Clemons was caught so was Bonds. Ortiz never ever was mentioned again outside that one report.

Two steroid users, a HOF DH and the GOAT… hmm were you trying to imply Ortiz used steroids even though he never tested positive? (Yes he was in a report but not once did he test positive before or after.)

Also another question, at least I have, does BB have it in him to rebuild a team completely at age 69. When Brady was here there were 3 mini rebuilds. (The second one was getting Moss and Welker). Does BB have anything left in the tank do it a 4th time with a completely new QB? Only time knows,

So true, that’s what men and woman who do it for a living mention them all the time. What you said doesn’t follow logic or human nature. Which is to look ahead to a tough assignment etc..

He went 11-5 without Brady when he went down injured, he also went 3-1 when he was suspended with Jimmy G. And dang I forgot the other guys name that’s starting for Miami now. Then he goes 7-9 with steam whose talent was ranked 29Th or 30th depending on what expert you listen to. Now BB the GM isn’t that good the HC has made caviar with mince meat.

What? 5-11 two years in a row with Bledsoe? He went 1 season with Bledsoe as a starter. in Cleveland he led them to the playoffs his second season then the wheels fell off when the owner announced they were moving. (Also most 1st time HC fail). BB was responsible for drafting Brady and giving him a chance. If Brady went to probably ANY other team he is out of the league in 3 years tops. BB and Brady MADE eachother!

Actually Jones was responsible for 1 INT. 1 bounced Smith hands (after juggling it for what felt like 10 minutes) for a pick 6. The second he was throwing and got hammered as he was throwing. Truth-be told he is better than I expected, but the D can’t get a stop when needed (21-13 and the D lets the Saints eat the clock up for a TD) and the O line is just a plain mess. (They shouldn’t be should be a top 5 line) as for this thread. Since 2000 BB went 14-6 without Brady and last year went 7-9 with one of the worst rosters in the NFL. He isn’t a fraud he just may be coming to the end of his run like anyone who is 70 years old.

Texans are a classic trap game with KC up next. I see a win but closer than it should be.

I think Gronk retires again when Brady retires, if Brady ever retires man keeps going like the freaking energizer bunny.

I wasn’t talking about all Bills fans.. only the ones promoting this crap about Allen. We had the “we should have kept Bledsoe” crowd in 2002 when the Pats failed make the playoffs.. they were equally as dumb.

I wish I could put in the Meme of the Emperor saying “Yes, let the Hate flow threw you” . Lol Dude it’s a sport that makes us all forget about our lives for a few hours on Sunday while we cheer our favorite team on. After that we all have to go back to out regularly scheduled lives and work. Mind you I find myself enjoying my sons Pop Warner games and Nephews HS games more than the pros.. probably because it’s fun seeing people you know doing something they love.

Wow! Bills are 1-1 and just came off a dominating 35-0 win of the Dolphins and you guys have THIS going on. Lmao Allen will be fine, he is probably just getting the rust off since he didn’t play much in the preseason. But damn I thought my fan base had a bunch of contrarians, Buffalo has us beat on that too.

Wilson will be a BUST. Then go elsewhere and thrive, just like Darnold. The Jets are just dysfunctional. Jones has made some big deeper throws to, right now he is just doing his job well. Right now he is the best rookie QB in the NFL, but it’s still early.