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I can’t believe Allen didn’t get in over Tua. I’m not shocked by Mahomes being in, he is an easily recognized name that everyone votes for. The amount of snubs at WR was also amazing! The only snub for my team would be Baremore. That man is a beast and IMO the best at his position in the AFC. Stroud played amazing this year and was even in MVP talks before he got that nasty concussion from a late hit. Let’s not forget the talent he has around him and the lack of experience as wel compared to Allen and Mahomes… and For dang sure Tua.. imagine the numbers Stroud put up with Hill and Waddle to throw to? Lol

Ok Brees also had the misfortune to be playing when P Manning, Big Ben, and Brady were also around.. that’s 11 SB right there! Add in Eli who had some sort of rabbit foot up his butt and he won 2. Right now the best QBs in the NFL: Mahomes - Best in the league right now. down year for him and the team. Burrow — on IR and his team is eliminated from the playoffs I think. Jackson — Best team in AFC right now. Hurt — a one year wonder.. Purdy — My favorite just because he is Mr Irrelevant and making noise 2 years in a row.. but let’s be honest this is Deebo and CMC offense and a defense that is killer. My point is outside of Mahomes (on this list) not one of these guys can carry the HOF I mentioned so Yes Allen should get to at least 1 or 2 SB. That does not mean he will win it because that’s a full team effort to do.

I agree. Mind you Steelers seeing them and getting the 6 see (?) I think would be good for the Bills in the playoffs.. I could see Pitt beating them in Baltimore even at full strength. They seem to always have the Ravens number. Umm it’s 2 games to the conference championship and 3 to get to the SB for every team but the 1 seed now.. who gets 1 and 2.. they only get 1 bye week not 2.

Question. Won’t the Bills be in trouble if this is true? Not putting Allen on the report with said injury as even just “probable shoulder”

Maybe because they rather Peterman get killed facing teams like NE and allow Josh to learn and grow for that year. They probably knew the O was not good enough for Allen to learn anything under center.

I thought KC loo

Baremore IMO is a TRUE All Pro pro bowler this year. I think the rookie White has flashed enough to be excited for him in the future and Hopefully Gonzalez comes back and is a true #1 Corner. (He looked really good the few games he played before going on IR) The D has some major building blocks IMO and if the Pats O was even just average they be a playoff contender this year.. (not SB contender PLAYOFFS..) I think there are 5 losses at least squarely on the O. (I include Sundays game in that category )

Steelers have a good chance of beating a Ravens team that has nothing to play for and may sit some starters (anyone having any sort of injury.)

Yes it did and it appeared to me the Pats D was just spent.. there was nothing left in their tank.

They are facing Baremore in the middle who has been a beast all year. Just an FYI the week before against Pitt he had 3 sacks and 2 tackles for loss in the game.. along with a ton of pressure.. He is a stud and someone I hope my Pats resign to a long term contract.

Umm look it up many a team did filming from unapproved areas after spygate.. not one got as harsh a penalty for it. Why? Because the team sucked! oh the walk threw thing was proven to be false as the man wrote the article admitted to making it up! You just proved my point on how fans/people don’t pay attention after the initial report. Seems everyone forgets the Globe had to write a retraction for said article. Just like in deflategate people ran with ALL the balls were way below what they were suppose to be. FALSE ESPN had do an on air apology (which they did at like midnight) for reporting that. The truth is only 1 was under inflated when you add in the natural gas law. 1 not all. Again people run with the initial report because they either didn’t hear the retraction or didn’t want to hear it. Also the Pats were not the first team caught with under inflated balls it happened numerous times in other cold weather games. What did the NFL do? Just reinflated the balls and moved in. laugh all you want but in 2015 your team CHEATED! It didn’t work but you cheated, just like the colts did for years piping in noise. I know it’s funny because the Bills were not good then..

Except we didn’t cheat for a single one! lol spygate 2006 it became illegal. deflategate we didn’t win a SB till AFTER they did that hole silly thing.. but hey the NFL loves your blind devotion..

That’s fine. You do know your bills have cheated to right? 1985 — your special teams coach wrote in his book that they cheated by having doors opened whenever the Pats kicked against the wind. That was illegal. No punishment because the league never knew. 2015 — Noisegate were caught piping in fake crowd noise against the Pats.. they were not punished because per the former Jets Intern Goodell — the Bills didn’t get any sort of advantage to it, probably because your team wasn’t that good that year. Do that now and the Bills will lose a 1st a 3rd and be fined a million dollars and people be saying how awful it is.. Spygate —2006 and before — Every team was guilty of filming anywhere they wanted. Goodell even called teams stupid if they didn’t think teams were trying steal their signals. The NFL added a new rule restricting where you can tape that off season. my point is if your team is good they make small minor offenses seem big so fans of teams that suck can go and point “look that’s why they are good!” Even though it’s completely untrue. It’s just to make other team fans stay around instead of giving up on their team. Also the NFL needed a “villain” since the traditional villain (Raiders) been bad for so long.. The NFL is entertainment as much as sports. The Pats had more viewers after Spygate and deflategate than ANY other team in the NFL. Why? The fans of both teams and the ones who just wanted Brady & Co to lose. They were the HIGHEST rated game almost every week.. and Brady v Peyton were second only to SB.

He can run and pass the ball and is a truck to bring down for the defense. Brady was more a cerebral assassin and able to dissect any defense he saw. Yet to beat him today he needed Zappe to throw 3 picks and gift then 20 points. lol that’s been the story this entire year.. God I can’t wait for a new QB..

So are us Pats fans! We now have the #2 pick again. Lol He has played very well. The Pats have done a good job getting late round and UDFA into decent CB.

Have you seen the Pats O this season? They aren’t just bad they are almost historically bad!!

I won’t lie I am baffled by that today! The Pats top 2 CB are out, and they cut 4 because he is well dumb. Logic stated the Bills O should have feasted on Bryant and Austin (5th string and Street pick up) Was it the Pats D or the Bills O? I think a mixture of the 2.

Really? It was already stated by the announcers he been playing with a hurt shoulder but it isn’t likely that someone on NE would hit him and affiliate said shoulder? I totally disagree! That ain’t Tom freaking Brady on the sidelines there but “backup for life” Zappe! You protect your recovering QB and play it safe. FYI the stats show it’s a 99% chance for a made FG by your kicker at that spot. So the chances of the Pats having a chance to win was next to nothing.

If Pats had recovered that could have changed the entire game.

The game was won! 1:35 left I believe. You run a RB and say he doesn’t make it. So 1:31 inside the 20 you run it all the way down to :51 call time out and kick the FG. let’s say you miss the FG then Zappe has 45 seconds no timeouts and needs go 75 yards to win the game. Just isn’t plausible and if Allen’s injury makes it so he is ineffective next week it really really looks foolish.

Here are my perspective on the game: 1. 1st quarter the only positive NE had was the kickoff for a TD. Outside of that 3 TO inside their on 30 turned into 13 points by the Bills. 2. 2nd quarter a pick 6. I still don’t see who he was going to. Easy pic and return for the Bills. 3. I am shocked that the Bills were not able pass all over this secondary Bryant is a bad cover corner and Austin is a guy we picked off the street. (Although he has played well the last few weeks) 4. that opening 3rd quarter drive sealed the game. Great play calling and execution. 5. Bills ran better than I expected but if I am honest I couldn’t expect the D play much better than they did against Allen and company. 6. Bills ran Allen it felt a lot today. (more specifics things now) 7. what was Allen thinking when he fumbled the ball after scrambling for 5 yards.. it almost looked like he was trying to lateral it. 8. I don’t remember the Bills CB name but he single handily won the game in the first half for being responsible for 3 TO directly and 17 points from them. 9. As I mentioned in my breakdown, the Pats FG kicker is a killer! Missed a FG and missed another that was negated by a delay of game. Just a killer for momentum. 10. Sorry, running Allen with less than 2 minutes up by 6 with less than 2 minutes left (Pats with no timeout's) had disaster written all over it. Hopefully that doesn’t derail the Bills for the playoff run. All said I wasn’t shocked by the outcome. I was shocked as I mentioned at Allen throwing for less than 200 yards and Zappe throwing 3 picks..

Game went as I figured it would. The Pats D played amazingly well for most of the game and the Pats O played beyond horrid. Good for both teams the result. The Bills fight for the division next weekend and the Pats are back at #2 for draft pick. Hopefully Allen is ok after that late injury. I will die on the hill that you don’t run your franchise QB in that particular situation. You had the game won just run the clock.

Both D’s played very well! The difference was turnovers 20-0 on turnover points..

No it didn’t. It was second and 5 with the clock running and well within FG range. Just hand the ball off twice and either kick the FG. You had the game WON and by doing it you put your QB in unnecessary harms way.

No he didn’t. It was a shoulder and legs even in super slow motion. Why you run Allen there is just dumb! Nothing to gain and just risk him getting hurt.