[RD1, Pick 7: Josh Allen QB - Wyoming]

CBS gives us grades of A+, B+ and A+ so far and says we are killing it. 

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/draft-tracker/

[Beane is building, this season might be a throw away]

Based on the roster, I think this is a three year rebuild.  Our defense should be in decent shape after this draft, but we will need to upgrade the O-line, RB, TE and WR positions over the next two drafts.  Barring injury, I expect one of McCarron or Peterman (I haven't given up on him yet) to start the next two years minimum (maybe three) and then Allen is ready to step in with an updated roster in 2020.   I just don't see us accomplishing much with our offensive line next year and Shady is clearly on the back nine at this point.  I see a 4-5 win team and I'm okay with that.  I think the next couple of years could be tough, but I plan to remain patient while they get this thing steered in the right direction.

[Rate our 1st round...]

A+

 

I was initially way down on the Allen pick, but the more I think about it, the more I believe he is the right fit for the organization.  Big, strong, blue collar, underdog type.  Could be our Big Ben for the next 15 years. So long as he develops into a quality starter by 2020, this will be considered a win. 

 

I love the Edmunds pick.  Like Allen, the sky is the limit with him.  

 

Hopefully, two cornerstone pieces. 

 

[2018 Draft: 1st round discussion]

Awesome.  Better be Rosen.

[2018 Draft: 1st round discussion]

Could Dolphins or Cardinals move up?  Otherwise, we should sit back and wait a bit.  None of 6-10 will have any interest in QB.

[2018 Draft: 1st round discussion]

if we move up to 5 to take Allen, I'll puke.

[2018 Draft: 1st round discussion]

Darnold is a stiff.

[2018 Draft: 1st round discussion]

Browns will take Chubb

Broncos will take Allen

Colts take the guard

Then we need to move up into one of 7-10 to beat the Fish to Rosen.

[Am I the only one? I'll take any of the top 6 QBs]

I don't like Rudolph's arm.  I think he could be an okay mid-to-bottom-tier starter down the line, but I don't see him being a "franchise" guy.  Allen scares me too.  I could see him flopping badly, but I thought the same thing about Carson Wentz.  I like the other four guys though and would be happy to stay put and grab Jackson at 12.

[Tyler Dunne Has It Right]

I think Lamar Jackson will end up better than at least one of the "big four" guys.  I will consider it a win if we grab him at 12 and have a solid draft with our remaining picks.

 

None of these QBs are without question marks.  

[Fred Jackson wall of fame or not?]

Absolutely not.  He had one 1000 yard rushing season.  He was a good player, but he's not WOF material.  Ruben Brown, Eric Moulds, Schobel and Kyle Williams are all more deserving guys from our loser era.

[What (non QB) position would you pick if guaranteed the GOAT?]

Edge rusher and it isn't really even close. 

[Sammy Watkins is a lunatic]

CTE is a hell of a drug

[ESPN: Josh Rosen isn’t going to just “shut up and throw” and has big plans for his NFL career]

1 hour ago, row_33 said:

Aikman and Kilmer built strong NFL careers after UCLA, a lot didn't.

 

 

You can say the same about almost every school.  UCLA has had one legit elite college QB that truly flamed out in the NFL.  That was Cade McNown and he was mostly done in by injuries.

[Bills send staff to meet with QB Alex McGough]

Certainly looks like an athlete with a gun.  And I can clearly see how he ended up with a broken collarbone.  I don't think I've ever seen so many jailbreak O-line breakdowns in a highlight film before.  He was running for his life or completely pummeled on like 80% of his dropbacks. 

[Josh Rosen snaps back on Mora comments]

Pretty funny response from Rosen.  Lol.

[Josh Rosen’s coach said he would take Darnold 1st]

Mora is an idiot and not well liked by UCLA fans.  If anything, Rosen has the right to trash Mora, not the other way around.

[Why would Jackson take the Wonderlic test and not - -]

I can't put too much stock in the Wonderlic when Jim Kelly scored 15, McNabb 14 and Kaepernick 38.  I'm more concerned with how Jackson throws the ball and actually processes things on the field.

 

I do believe he is doing himself a disservice by not hiring an agent, but I guess we won't truly know the answer to that until draft night.

[Bad feeling that we take Mason Rudolph]

At this point, I'd be very disappointed with either Rudolph or Jackson in the first round.  I'd probably prefer Jackson over Rudolph in the second-third rounds, since he has the higher ceiling.  Rudolph, with his lack of arm strength, seems to be the definition of a caretaker quarterback. 

 

I have a bad feeling that the day the Jets traded into the #3 spot will go down in infamy for Bills fans.

[Mel Kiper's Nightmare Mock 3.0]

I think Kiper is right on the money.  Our only hope is trading into the 4 slot.  I wonder if we could sweeten the deal for the Browns by throwing in Shady to soften the blow of losing Barkley?  Then they get a plug and play elite running back to pair with their new franchise QB and nice stable of young wideouts.

[Would you trade Leighton Vander Esch, DJ Moore, Rashaad Penny, and Mason Rudolph for Josh Rosen?]

No, and I'm a UCLA fan and like Rosen.  He COULD become a hall of fame franchise QB type, but he's no sure thing. I'm okay with moving up to #6 and giving away less to grab a QB we want, but we have too many holes to sell the farm for Rosen. 

[Breer: Lack of QBs in '19 Draft Putting Pressure on Teams to Get Theirs Now]

Reminder that no one had a clue who Sam Darnold was 3 games into the 2016 season, or hell, who Carson Wentz was at the start of 2015.  There's a good chance that an elite QB prospect will emerge between now and next April.

[Realism about the QB Position]

You are just looking at UCLA's overall record since Rosen has been there.  UCLA was 17-13 with Rosen as a starter and 1-7 without him.  How did Alabama fare without McCarron?

[Deonte Thompson signs with Cowboys]

Consider that we picked him off the scrap heap in the middle of the season.  I trust the Beane can find a comparable option for same price or cheaper.

[Zay Jones Arrested]

My hunch is that Zay will get a slap on the wrist and end up fine in the long run. 

 

I mentioned this anecdote in another thread, but when I was in college back in the late 90's I liked to smoke a little pot now and then. I wasn't a stoner or druggie or anything like that. Just a generally responsible kid who liked to chill out 2-3x a week in the evening after studying. My dormmate, however, was THE weed dealer for all of the football and basketball players on campus, so we had a lot of different dudes running through there. He had one friend in particular, a 6'9" basketballer, who was crazy and eventually flunked out of school due to his drug habits.  Unbeknownst to me, he had been in my room during the day, smoked the rest of my stash, and refilled my bag later on with wet (weed with PCP). That night, after my roommates had fallen asleep, I fired up a bowl and was going to eat a bowl of cereal and play some video games before bed.  Things went bad very quickly and I had some very disturbing visual and auditory hallucinations, saw a demonic skeleton in my cereal, believed I was doomed to die and even tried to open up my ninth story window to jump out and escape.  Luckily my roommates were able to calm me down and I was lucid enough to comprehend that I was having a bad trip, so they were able to keep me cool long enough for the effects to wear off.  I was basically fine the next day and able to attend class, etc.  It sounds funny now, but it was very terrifying at the time.