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On 5/3/2024 at 10:09 AM, dave mcbride said:
There is now a big difference in the speed around Patrick Mahomes compared to the speed around Josh Allen
Really?
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18 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:
Beane specifically said the bolded did not happen. That is what I figured too but he did not ask and KC did not offer. But I think the rest of what you are saying is true, they likely had 2-4 guys bunched up and so trading down to get better picks later made sense.
Ok, I didn't listen to all of the press conferences so I missed that, but it's not as if everyone didn't know KC was looking for a receiver also, and unless there is ONE guy you've "gotta have" then the trade back is an easy call.
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43 minutes ago, Billl said:
It’s great fan fiction, but there’s not a chance in hell that Veach would tell Beane who they were targeting. Its a ridiculous suggestion.
I disagree. I think those conversations are part of draft trades all the time.
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Here is, I believe, a very plausible scenario from draft night:
Pick 28 is approaching...Beane would be ok with any of several WRs still on the board, but is not interested in Worthy. Beane also desperately wants to get a 3rd round pick in this draft. Teams start calling, including KC, who makes the best offer. Beane asks who they are targeting...they tell him. Knowing he doesn't want Worthy (and can't keep KC from trading into #29, 30, or 31), Beane makes the trade. He then still "knows" that one of his guys will most likely be there three picks later because Dallas isn't taking a WR and Baltimore has more pressing needs. The Pats*** start calling Beane because they want Legette or Coleman. When SF takes Pearsall Beane is now guaranteed to get one of those two. He calls his buddy Morgan and determines they want Legette, which is fine with Beane. It's a no-brainer to make the trade with Carolina for more draft capital, and in the process you keep your division rival from getting their target.
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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:
Yea I said all along they knew who Dan Morgan wanted. He and Beane are tight. Its a rare case where a GM would say "come on who is your guy, as long as its not our guy I'll do it" and because if their relationship Morgan is gonna tell him.
Correct. Beane knew Carolina was taking Legette, and I think he knew who KC was after as well. We don't know what he did or didn't know about picks 29-31, but I assume he knew one of the WRs he would be happy with would be available.
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…if this was already mentioned I apologize. Rumor is that the Pats*** were targeting either Coleman or Legette and had a deal “construct” in place with Buffalo before Beane dealt with Carolina instead, therefore taking away both of the Pats*** targets. They then moved back further from #34.
I love it.
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9 minutes ago, FireChans said:
This is a cry for help.
Nah, just a guy having fun. Sorry that is so foreign to you!
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This board really does crack me up. The Bills’ projected top 4 WR of Coleman, Shakir, Samuel, and Hollins (I love the people sleeping on him) is as good as we’ve had here in some time. NOBODY with a brain thinks the 8 guys they have brought in to compete for spots #5 and 6 are making a difference in any way besides special teams. Add a blue chipper in Kincaid, along with Cook, Knox, and Ray Davis, and there is absolutely NO reason to think this team doesn’t have an offense capable of scoring almost at will.
The Bills’ top 5 projected “pass catchers” going into this season easily rival any of the teams I mentioned, save SF.
Some of you just love to complain.
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4 minutes ago, NoSaint said:
He’s comparing this years bills to last years contenders not this years contenders
I think until proven otherwise we are the weakest group on that listbut that doesn’t mean it’s an insurmountable gap- Kincaid steps forward, Coleman shows up and we can be in the mix with Josh.
But it underscores that we are a half step behind and it’ll likely be an uphill battle.
Weaker than Baltimore and Detroit? Come on. St. Brown is a slot receiver. Baltimore’s offense is always shut down in the playoffs.
KC got better with Worthy but who knows when Kelce starts slipping (and Rice is a ?).
It’s not an uphill battle at all. As many have noted, Buffalo’s problem in the playoffs hasn’t been offense — it’s stopping Mahomes and Burrow.
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Some of you aren’t understanding this…the players I listed for those teams are those who were their biggest contributors at the WR, TE, and RB positions. Those groups as a whole are not demonstrably stronger than what the Bills have — in my opinion.
KC added Worthy. Good for them.
I think the Bills have plenty to compete for a championship.
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It has been repeated so often how the Bills are “in trouble” at WR because of Beane’s supposed mismanagement of the roster and the losses of Diggs and Davis, that I finally started really looking at what is going on around the league. I started with the four teams who made the conference championships last season, and who they got there with: KC, Baltimore, Detroit, and SF. SF is sort of an anomaly because they are loaded at the skill positions — perhaps the best group in the league.
But the other three — a completely different story.
Last season:
KC: Kelce, Rice, Pacheco, and…?
BAL: Andrews, Flowers, Edwards, OBJ, and…?
DET: St. Brown, LaPorta, Reynolds, Gibbs, and…?
Notice something about all three? The TE may be the best receiver on the team, and their WR rooms are anything other than “loaded.”
The Bills will roll out Kincaid, Coleman, Shakir, Samuel, and Cook…aside from the unknown that is Coleman, this is a group one could very easily argue is more talented than what those other teams put on the field last season while getting to their conference championships.
Agree? Disagree?
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Chase Claypool ain’t making the team unless he has had a complete epiphany. The Bills are kicking the tires but he’s a long shot at best.
The biggest difference in the Bills’ WR room is that they are drafting/signing people who don’t drop the ball.
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Claypool signing is clearly a McDermott move. I wish he’d stop meddling with the roster decisions.
/sarcasm off
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1 hour ago, Gregg said:
Speaking of the schedule. What are we about 2 weeks until it gets released.
My prediction is Thursday 5/9.
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Looking at the schedule (it's pretty tough), I think a 10-11 win season and playoff berth is a success and what I'd expect.
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1 hour ago, boyst said:
the only thing we know is that at pick 33 we did not want mitchell over Coleman.
That's the only thing WE (fans) know for certain. We have no idea what Beane knew.
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1 hour ago, mannc said:
I suppose Coleman was their guy, but if that's the case, why move down from 28? When KC called, did Beane ask them who they were going to take? And if so, how did he know that the teams drafting 29-31 weren't going to take him (SF, for example, ended up taking a different WR)? Did Carolina tell Beane who they were going to take at 32 if he made the trade?...I always wonder how much is known about who other teams are going to select and how it is known.
Good questions; I do think GMs ask who the team is targeting when making trades. If you lie or are lied to, it sours future dealings.
7 minutes ago, boyst said:Yes wanted the 33rd pick. I don't buy it 100% because it's a great way to say Coleman was there man.
Yes, I'm always wary of the post-draft spin as well, but in this case either Beane was happy with any of the four WRs who went between 28-33 or he knew the other teams weren't targeting Coleman.
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43 minutes ago, boyst said:
Beane said yesterday on Sirius that he turned down at least 5 good offers to move to #33.
You mean to move out of 33, right?
Clearly Coleman was their guy.
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1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:
And I chuckle about your pom pom waving, 1 man cheering section, (outcomes notwithstanding) but certainly, let's hope.
Is there another option? What exactly can we control? All of the teeth gnashing in the world won't change a single thing about the Bills. I choose to have fun, look for the silver lining, and enjoy it. You choose another path. If that's enjoyment for you so be it.
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3 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:
As soon as anyone doesn't "support the thing" people get out their pitch forks rather than consider different view points
And as soon as anyone brings some new information to the table (like data on Coleman's actual route speeds), those who called him slow dig their heels in further rather than opening up to the possibility there is something else to consider.
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Meh. She looks like a blockhead.
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Just now, KDIGGZ said:
If you read any of my posts
Truthfully, I try not to.
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3 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:
The guy is slow
If all you are using to base that comment on is his combine 40 time, you should be ashamed of yourself.
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51 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:
If we can, let's put everything aside and let only logic be our guide for the sake of this conversation....
1) If Carter is to be a "leader" on the Bills, please tell me who he will lead and when.
2) What do you think Josh Allen would have been more pleased to have, a 6'2" defensive tackle from Duke who might be a "leader" in the future (if he is still with the team) or another receiver with speed?
3) In round two (after trading down), McDermott selected a wide receiver who is lisated as running a 4.62 40. In fact, on this linked site he had the worst 40 time of any listed wideout. Does this even concern you a little bit? https://gbnreport.com/2024-wr-ranking/ Now, if we play a 12 package we will have two TEs and a comparatively slow wide receiver, this for a QB with a cannon. Call me crazy but I don't like this very much.
Btw, I re-read my post to you and consider it to be too harsh. I am sorry, and I do pray for more patience. Be well.
Bill, you're still one of these guys pounding the table that McDermott makes the draft picks. It's ludicrous.
The Bills drafted players who had leadership roles on their college teams. You don't think that translates into the pros?
I used to just chuckle about your outbursts over taking 1st round cornerbacks, but now the crusade against McD is really too much.
Let's just agree we both hope the Bills win a lot of football games and leave it at that. Neither of us can control how they build the team.
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Roast of Brady!
in The Stadium Wall
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Lampanelli is great, I agree. Amy Shumer would have been good as well.
Nikki Glazer absolutely slayed, however.