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    Who is the worst franchise QB in the NFL?

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    I think in order to truly evaluate this question you first need an agreed-upon list of who the "franchise QBs" are in the league.  I'll suggest that these are QBs who were drafted highly and are either still on the team they were drafted by or have received a significant multi-year contract from their current team.  This eliminates journeymen or 1-year FA signees.  In no particular order:

     

    AFC:

    Allen

    Mahomes

    Burrow

    Tua

    Maye

    Jackson

    Herbert

    Geno

    Nix

    Stroud

    Lawrence

    Ward

     

    NFC:

    Hurts

    Prescott

    Daniels

    Love

    Wilson

    Goff

    Mayfield

    Young

    Murray

    Purdy

    Stafford

    Darnold

     

    On that list I'm throwing out the rookies or 2nd year guys because we truly don't know yet, so Daniels, Maye, Ward, Nix, and Wilson come off.  Based upon all of that, Bryce Young might be the worst "franchise" QB in the league.

     

    If we only look at guys with 2nd (or 3rd) contracts then I'd say Darnold kind of sticks out like a sore thumb, although Lawrence is right behind him.  I think Murray has done more than either of those two guys.

     

    It's definitely not Baker.

     

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    Will gambling ruin the NFL and sports in general?

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    5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

    Does sports betting lead to the odd instance of attempted match fixing? Yes. Does it lead to rampant or industrial level cheating that ruins sports? No. 

     

    Yup.  Some Americans think anything that happens in ‘merica means more because it’s ‘merica, despite the fact that the rest of the world has somehow been able to handle legalized gambling on sports.

     

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    Training camp schedule & ticket info released!

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    On 6/25/2025 at 9:49 AM, corta765 said:

     

    Having my boys 6/3 years old camp is amazing for them. I always enjoyed camp before as it is really unique and one of the very few free things you can see your team at, but their energy for the kids stuff and being their makes it wayyyy more fun now.


    I can totally understand that. My perspective is as an adult with no kids. 
     

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    What Are You Most Excited About This Coming Season?

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    15 hours ago, BillsPride12 said:

    The emotions that will come from this being the finale season at the stadium 

     

    Maybe it’s just me, but I’m not emotional at all about the Bills leaving Rich/Ralph/New Era/Highmark for that beautiful building across the street.  Sure, I have a ton of great memories in the stadium but it’s not like the Bills are leaving Buffalo, and the new place is going to be amazing.  And let’s face it, while Rich may have been “cutting edge” in 1973 by the 90s it was a shithole.  They’ve slapped a whole lot of lipstick on that pig and it’s time to go.

     

     

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    Outside of Josh Allen, Who Is Your Favorite Player On the Roster??

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    Before this season I’d have said Hyde.  Now that he’s gone, it’s a very difficult decision because the Bills actually do have a lot of likable players who are also very good at their jobs.

     

    It’s between Dawkins, Shakir, Bernard, Benford, Knox, and Tre.  Their combination of play + personality/character are pretty awesome.

     

    Milano is close, but his complete lack of personality or public persona drive him down the list.

     

    Fun topic.

     

    AFC East Sweep

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    1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said:

    If you are asking a polling question, why add if we get sweeped question.  There’s no way we are getting sweeped by any AFCE team.  I had to place something so went with NE, but there’s no way we get sweeped by NE.

     

    I appreciate the new topic.

     

    But will we get swept?

     

    1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

    We will go 5-1. Lose week 18 to the Jets in a dead rubber.

     

    I’m interested to see how the “last regular season game in the stadium” dynamic plays out.  The place will be packed because there are a good number of fans who can’t necessarily buy playoff tickets and they’ll want to see the game.

     

    But at the end of the day, if this team is what we think they are they’ll know they have more home games coming and McD won’t do anything to jeopardize their health going into the playoffs.

     

    Love the “dead rubber” comment :lol:

     

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    Ranking the 15 greatest Bills ever

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    It’s easier for me to separate out the top 15 offense and defense.  I don’t know how to “compare” an offensive player to a defensive player for the purposes of ranking them.

     

    My top 15 Bills on offense (that I saw play) are (in no particular order):  Josh, Kelly, Ferguson, OJ, Thurman, Cribbs, Shady, Reed, Lofton, Moulds, Diggs, Hull, Ritcher, Ruben Brown, Joe DeLamielleure.  So I’ve got 3 QBs, 4 RBs, 4 WRs, and 4 OL.

     

    Top 15 defense (that I saw play) are (also in no particular order):  Bruce, Biscuit, Talley, Hansen, Smerlas, Haslett, Nelson, Hyde, Poyer, Ted Washington, Odomes, Paup, Kyle Williams, Milano, Winfield.  That’s 6 DL (incl. Paup), 5 LB, and 4 DB.

     

     

    Ranking the 15 greatest Bills ever

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    11 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    So Trent Dilfer is better than Allen? Jalen Hurts? Brad Johnson? Nick Foles? Jeff Hostetler? Those guys must be better than Kelly too because they WON Super Bowls. That’s the dumbest argument ever made. 
     

    Someone said throw the deep ball earlier and that’s fair. Kelly was also elite calling the game. We haven’t seen that from Allen. 

    When I compare players, I compare them vs. their contemporaries to avoid the “game was different back then” argument. Josh Allen is the MVP of the league. He’s been a top 3 QB and top 10 overall player for 5 straight years. Jim Kelly wasn’t that in his era. He was, and people hate this, a lot like Hurts is now. He was in the next tier of QBs and had the best roster in football. He was the right guy for them. If Josh Allen quarterbacked those early 90’s team they have AT LEAST 2 Super Bowls. If Jim Kelly quarterbacked these Bills teams they would look a lot like Bucs do now. 

     

    Steve, the guys defending Kelly right now are the same ones who wanted him benched for Reich back in the day.

     

    Kelly’s a legit HOFer and his teams went to four consecutive SBs.  He’s on the list.  But the Bills have won so many games because of Josh Allen and I find it hard to recall telling myself that back in the 90s about Kelly.  Usually I was thinking about how great Bruce was, or Thurman, or how Reed just ran away from people after catching a short pass.  Folks just don’t really remember how freaking talented those rosters were.

     

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    All-things-UFL thread.

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    42 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

    hard to believe it was possible, but ratings actually dropped from last season---by a whopping 20%.

     

    how long will ABC/ESPN/Fox hang in there with this?  

     

    One of Promo's 4 friends stopped watching.

     

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    Would you rather $ or Lombardi?

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    4 hours ago, Rubes said:

    I would have to get to seven figures before I’d seriously consider the money.

     

     

    I think I’m there also.  I’m semi-retired and comfortable so the money doesn’t mean all that much…would need to be crazy $$ for me to give up the chance of the Bills winning it.

     

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