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Ya. Swiss Guard. My error. The Pope doesn't run a country. He has none of the issues that brings. What he runs is a religion, and his domain is completely at odds with Jesus' ministry. Nice guy, I'm sure, but looking at this objectively, I am not interested in his advice to the country who has done more for human and Christian advancement than his little palatial estate has ever conceived of, and that does not include any of the remarkable and disgusting scandals that office has been part of.

It's not what you say, it's what you do. Invite them all to Vatican City. Watch how the Swedish Guard would react in St. Peter's area that is the single most antithetical example of Jesus' ministry on earth. Physician, heal thyself.

For purposes of accuracy and simple good manners, I have never stated anything regarding this allegation, so any implication is baseless. I am unaware of any such "order," and I sure as hell wouldn't believe anything said on this site. I do know, that in my days of carrying weapons of incredible power, I would never deploy them against defenseless, non threatening people. Clear enough?

Good luck. He accused me pf being a liar and I offered ten thousand dollars if I could not prove what he claimed I lied about. He scurried away like a cockroach.

I liked your last year Thanksgiving post where you pointed out that you shared dinner with eight, (I believe), other progressives and your view summary. Again, i had dinner with kids and grandkids, with no mention of politics, as is normal here. I always wondered if you ask people to identify their political views. I have no idea what the views are of my associates. Never comes up. Certainly not at dinner.

Just to be clear, and not allow your nonsense to be suggested as true. He hasn't done anything, to anyone's knowledge, that suggests illegal orders. No need for military officers to be "reminded."

Well, you be you. I think it was insulting, political, contrived and stupid.

Ya. Dumb comment. That's the problem with Trump. He doesn't know when to not comment. A simple "military officers know they are not permitted to execute an illegal order" would have been sufficient. Hegseth should transmit less as well. An effective leadership trait is knowing when to be quiet. Still, the video was equally unnecessary and ill advise. Everyone needs to shut up and do their job.

As an ex military officer, it always bothers me when people raise that resume as though their current views are to be more weighted because of service. Everything this man did was voluntary. He chose. I have no objection to him stating the obvious, which is that one should not execute an illegal order. Everybody knows that. I don't like using military service to promote political opinion. Shut up and do your job, which you and the US Senate failed at during the shutdown.

Again, I don't have a view that anything has been done that should trigger anyone. Military officers do not need to be told that they are not to abide by illegal orders. Cabinet members do not need to threaten people, until something happens. So far, and that may change, this is nothing other than yacking.

Is anyone else thinking this is just a silly exercise? No illegal orders have been directed. Nobody needs to tell military personnel that are are not to abide by illegal orders. They know that, certainly at the commissioned officer level, where such things would originate. Looks to me like an attempt to orchestrate a completely political exercise for publicity. On to the next crisis.

Great. I haven't seen anything that makes them illegal. I'm not offering an opinion, because I don't know. Maybe posters here are informed beyond my knowledge. If so, I haven't seen it.

I never suggested in any way that Kelly did anything wrong When someone does something illegal, let me know. So far nothing. I certainly knew the rules, and didn't need a reminder.

Another stupid post. I never suggested anyone committed treason. I never needed to be reminded that I was obligated to not carry out an illegal mission. Knowing that was part of the training.

I think the entire thing is dumb on both sides. Service people are obligated to not oblige "illegal" orders. They don't need to be told that. Regarding the "free speech" comment, not a player. He is obligated to conform to the UCMJ . Nothing "free speech" about it. It's quit clear. Another useless confrontation that gets the press all excited, but meaningless. If the Administration directs an illegal order, then it's worth talking about.