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Insane claims warrant no response. To the subject, the program never stopped, and I consider it a waste of time, just as the agreement Jimmy Carter worked out with North Korea, the "Agreed to Framework," a deal he sprung of the Clinton Administration, never stopped N. Korea. Kicking the can is a regular strategy of politicians refusing to deal with the realities of the day.
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President Trump is Quite the 'Deal-Maker'
sherpa replied to BringMetheHeadofLeonLett's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Back to the subject, I never thought he was a particularly good deal maker. His deals involved negotiating real estate deals. Real estate is a particularly easy deal, because both parties are dealing with an appreciating asset. Thus, it is profitable to both parties to conclude an agreement. I am not aware of him ever getting a tough deal done. -
Complete nonsense, and any informed individual who knows about this stuff would laugh at this. The JCPOA did nothing to stop the Iranian development. It sought to delay it while guaranteeing it. The Iranians have never lived up to anything regarding this, and your claim is ignorant and ill informed.
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I think you are making this far too complicated. The US has a bunch of personnel and equipment, including a carrier task force, in the area. Given the likelihood of an Iranian response, the Israelis probably told the US they were going to do something on Iranian soil. The US would then be prepared for a response. Thus the well publicized effort to allow non US combatants to leave the area over the past few days.
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I honestly don't believe that these type of claims have any basis in reality. The bottom line is that the world is dealing with a fundamentalism Islamic group at the head of Iran and its nuc program. Do any of you care to understand what "diplomacy" means to a fundy Islamic group that thinks it has a God directive to eliminate Israel? You can disagree, but I don't think "diplomacy" means the same to the Iranian regime as it does to an obviously uninformed westerner. To change course, but I think is important, the status of this confrontation has changed immensely in the past few months since the fall of Syria. So as to not waste words, Iran is infinitely more vulnerable to offensive air strikes than it was earlier. That is not to say they can't energize their third party proxies in other countries, but they are quite vulnerable.
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All of this internecine arguing in this forum is a waste of time. There is no agreement that Iran was going to sign on to to stop it's nuclear program. Only an ignorant fool with no knowledge of that regime would conclude that any US administration could force it, short of military action. Waste of time targeting the US policy. The Israelis have this figured out, and have for some time.
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Buying them from N. Korea would e a gross violation of many agreements. Their nuc program has Pakistani origins and N. Korea technical support, and has for years. Producing them in N. Korea would not get them in place to launch. Delivering one of these things is a multi pronged issue. The warhead, which needs about 90% pure, the missile range and accuracy, as well as mounting the warhead on it. If they did it in N. Korea they would be found out and the weapons would likel never make it to Iran without interdiction.
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All the usual blaming of various US administrations in this thread, but that doesn't address the reality. Iran is run by an individual who thinks he has a God given mission to destroy Israel. That is that group's raison d'etre. It's been that way for decades, just as the Iranian nuclear weapons program has been going on for that long. There is no chance any US president was going to stop it unless by force, which is not a pleasant option, or by regime change brought on by internal force. That is the reality, and anyone who has looked at their program for years would know that. How they built their facilities, where they put them, how they spread them out etc. Fortunately, the Iranian air defense system has been denigrated to the point of ensuring strike success against various sites, but the thought that Iran was suddenly going to stop is pure folly.
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Los Angeles under military attack
sherpa replied to Joe Ferguson forever's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Remind the individual of Kent State.