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Read your reply to me and tell me you make sense. Show me 3 dropped td passes to zay. They never got there and he was open.

We're 4 games in and Beasely gave up a td with a dropped pass(jets) and dropped another catchable pass that game. He also dropped the exact same low pass from barkley that zay did.

No denials. He's unfairly targeted imo. I like Josh, but he left 3 tds out there to Zay. If you look at film and deny the 3 potential tds, I suggest you take the Josh Allen colored glasses off.

Dude , I gave the 1 thing he asked for. Don't write a check you can't cash.

In the same 3 and out, Brown dropped 1 in his chest and Beasley dropped a low one. Cut them all!!

He agreed not to bring Zay's name up again. For a reason.

For a rookie and 4 games in, I like what I see. Should pick it up over the course of the season. Great pick by the Bills.

Dude the passes have to get there 1st. You see the stats and you can go back to see the horrible throws from Josh to Zay. 3 blown tds. But, ok. He drops them, sure.?

Sure.

Would rather have Mahomes throwing to Zay. Josh: 3tds vs. 6 picks and 5 fumbles(2 lost). In 4 games. Missed Zay on 3 would be tds, in 4 games. He flat out missed an open Zay on those 3. Yep, that all changes with Diggs. Ok.

3 or 4 different threads that should be titled "Zay Jones sucks"? ?

Stop it. I've already said I like Josh and glad we have him. 3tds and 6 picks hasn't changed that. I actually think we'll get a lot better as the season progresses. No agenda. Zay should lead us in tds. Film shows this to be true.

I think we'll gel as an offense as the season progresses. It's a whole new crew, except for Josh, Dion and Zay. We'll be fine if we cut down on turnovers.

Who were Zay's qbs in those 3 years? TT, Peterman and Josh. In spite of that he had a decent year last year. Peterman and a rookie last year. And as I pointed out, this year Josh is the issue. 16 games or not. Zay should be leading us in td, but Josh has thrown him crap in the ez. See the Giants, Bengals and today's game. It's on film, in color.

I'm not saying don't bring up Duke. Duke for Foster would be the better move. I still argue that if he had better qb play by Josh this year, Zay leads the team in tds. Not Brown, not Beasley, but Zay. I don't see how that's missed in all this. Bring up Duke, just for Foster.

Are you referring to the high pass by Barkley? If you think Williams catches that, how do I argue? He hasn't even made it past the ps yet, but you're gonna hypothetically make it a catch for him. If you're referring to the miss by Josh on a wide open Zay, even ps Duke wouldn't make that. I hope Duke makes the team over Jones and lights it up, I really do. I'm a Bills fan, not a Duke hater or Zay lover. Did you read the whole post? Josh has 3 td passes and 1 was a shuffle. Josh also has thrown 6 ints. Watch film of the season so far and tell me if Josh is better, Zay doesn't have at least 3 tds, in 4 games. You can tell me Duke would have more, but again, how do I argue hypotheticals? I have my thoughts and you have yours. Mine are based on what I've seen in real games. And in real games, Josh has left at least 3 tds to Zay go to waste. I don't think you could argue that.

Only 3 td passes in 4 games so far. That's on Josh and Dabol. Announcers have mentioned too many times and have shown open receivers when Josh is holding the ball. It's only 15 or 16 games for Josh, so I'm hopeful he gets better. He should have at least 7 tds by my count. 3 tds in 4 games ain't gonna cut it.

If only Zay could throw it to himself when he's open for a td, he'd have 3 by now. There's a reason the Bills have only 3 td receptions so far, Josh. And 1 of them was a shuffle pass. Josh needs to do better. Unless you're wearing Josh colored sunglasses.

Healthy scratch?

And invisible Foster?!

How big is Beasley? I'm gonna sound like Zay's lover here, but he's not the problem. If Josh hits him when he's open in the endzone, Zay has at least 3 tds, in 4 games. He had 1 drop that I saw and was open at least 3 times in the 1st half. 1 for a td and 1 for a big play, but Josh was busy throwing picks. By the way, on his drop, Brown and Beasley dropped Barkley's LOW passes on the same 3 and out. Size wouldn't help there. So much Zay hate, but Foster shouldn't be cut? He sucks and can't beat Zay in overall play. We have a total of 3 td passes to Brown, Knox and McKenzie(a pitch) in 4 games. Zay or size isn't the problem, it's Josh. If Josh can hit Zay like he should, Zay has that total on his own.

Maybe if his qb could hit him when he's open. Josh has missed 3 tds to Zay, in only 4 games. Maybe Foster shouldn't be on the Roster. That's a waste of space.

Wow. You lead off with poor qb play and poor cast of mates. Way to not prove a point. Zay would have 3-4 tds already, if not for Josh. 1 ea. against the Giants and Bengals and possibility 2 today. He catches a pass on our td drive today, catches a huge 1st down pass against the Jets on our game winning TD. Zay isn't great, but right now he's not the problem. We're 3-1 and if Josh hits Zay, we probably win. JuJu ain't coming through that door.

I'm not going to wait for the thread. My grade for Josh today: D- If not for his TD reach, it's an F.

Very, very impressive by the d.