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AP Report: 08-09-05 The New York Giants' first preseason game is at Cleveland this weekend, but after last Saturday's brawl with the New York Jets they may be looking ahead to the teams' preseason game on Aug. 26 at Giants Stadium to settle some grievances. "There's going to be a lot of animosity, you can count on that," Giants linebacker Barrett Green said Monday. "In the preseason game, there's no question about the rules, there's no question about hitting people. They're going to get hit, hard." ************************************************** Yeh! Way to go Giants! Revenge! Hit 'em! Hit 'em Hard! (Hit 'em Late! Hit 'em Dirty! ) And don't forget to hit Chad. And then hit him again. Right shoulder. Bullseye. Go Giants! (heh heh heh heh heh)

I agree Buftex - is there smoke here? The fact , however, that the only source is the Trenton Times (all other news source reports attribute THEIR source to the TT) makes me doubt the veracity. In fact, ironically, the TT cited THREE sources in one of their articles. THREE? When the other major news reporters have NONE? Maybe the TT has put a bug on the three cockroaches living under the Philly GM's desk. oops, makes that THREE bugs.

-- Simon & the Bills Cap -- Mon Aug 8, 2005 --from FFMastermind.com * The Trenton Times reports in an update to the DT Cory Simon -to-Buffalo story, a source close to the situation says the Bills are looking into how Simon would fit under the salary cap. ***************** Both GM's say nothing is going on. So who the heck is the writer talking to?

I agree that this is a huge risk - Tons of money for a player that hasn't been on the field for a long time. This also must put a huge wrench in the Abraham negotiations. I am glad the Jets did this - it may pay off but I wouldn't have been happy if the Bills risked this much on one player of questionable health (and age). We shall see ! Go Bills!! -RnJ

good post John What I want to see is steady improvement. The fun part of this is, IMO, JP is already doing better than I expected he would. Last yr, vs Denver, and in his VERY few appearances, he was able to move the team (not every time but BETTER than every other time). Friday, he had way more good moments than bad and was able to turn several 3rd downs into 1st downs with his arm. Next up: The colts. Steady improvement JP, Steady. -RnJ

qb's were allowed to run - in fact JP did run once BUt , and I see this as a very good sign , JP is obviously thinking PASS first and RUN second. For a young QB (with good speed), this is not easy to get inside the noggin. The fact that he chose to skip the easy 7 and was still looking downfield is something to congratulate and encourage. BTW: When the games count, he'll run...a lot. -RnJ

Hey Fez - Have you viewed the tape of the scrimmage yet? I think your view of JP's play will rise quite dramatically after you do. It seems to me based on what I saw and what you said you saw (Plus the pro-GB company you were with) that your view was somewhat clouded JP played well but made a few mistakes especially in the last set of plays. All in all, though, I was extremely encouraged and - if he improves - there is every reason to be hopeful he can perform at Drew-ish level quckly and then...beyond a view from Central Joisy BTW - I watched Gandy pretty closely and he seemed to do well early on. I will be dubbing the game later today and will be able to better evaluate this. I was, like most everyone else, focused entirely on JP last night! -RnJ

Throwing for the third consecutive day for the first time since undergoing surgery Feb. 8 to repair his torn right rotator cuff, Jets quarterback Chad Pennington's arm is clearly weak. And, for the first time, coach Herman Edwards admitted Pennington had "big-time" surgery. In the past, the Jets have tried to downplay the extent of Pennington's surgery, saying he had only a slight tear and he'll be ready for the opener, no problem. -- Newark Star-Ledger Is that a Bullseye I see on his right shoulder? TKO? Can you see it? TKO?

Thanks CP and thanks for clarifying the Nate possibility It will be practically unprecendented if the Bills resign their own CB to a high salary Long term contract Hopefully that WILL be the case since , IMO, Nate is a solid, shutdown, probowl CB worth the extra bucks.

Cindy - your check from RichNJoisy and RevNJoisy went in the mail this morning. Should arrive by Thursday.

Great job Rocky - as per usual stay cool, my friend. Now: requests! Please report on 1) screens 2) Gandy, Peters 3)Anderson vs Edwards 4) My Hurricanes "connection" tells me Parrish has fumblitus. Please watch him for any signs of this. tanx

Hey BGM - your report was excellent. I passed it along to my CNJBBB members. You da man -RnJ O.K. Rockpile - Top that!

For those of you at TSW: I was screaming for screens for years. I finally gave up last year: Drew couldn't do it. Period. I noted right away last year that JP could do them while in the preseason games. He threw a great one in the Tennessee game as I recall. BTW, no, Kelly was not the last QB with this ability. Doug threw a nice screen and so, for that matter, could Alex. RJ couldn't. Everytime a player got to within 15 ft of him he'd scream and run away. I am looking forward to screens being "Back on the Menu Boys!" (as the Orcs ate the Goblins in The Two Towers). -RnJ

One can only hope

FYI: KFFL.com has a report from the jets that Law is not visiting with them and no visit is scheduled.

Hi Nick you confused me too with some of your wording. You said you "moved to a job internally on a temporary basis". By temporary do you mean YOU thought it was temporary or that you and the woman who brought you in agreed it was temporary? If the latter, then I don't understand the problem - the job was temporary and you are merely preparing yourself for the change to a more permanent position. Gratitude only goes so far when a person's livelihood (and family?) is at stake. This scenario SUGGESTS there was some "grayness" in your agreeing to take this position. Can you be more specific? If the former, then you are saying you always felt the move was temporary but did not make this clear to the woman who brought you on board. THAT is another matter and there is no clean way to smooth this out. It would mean you misled her from the get-go. I am not judging you if it is the latter but I AM telling you that that ship has already sailed if that is the case. get it?

Add me to the list to say "Thanks for the honor but I simply can't afford it." Any rational and true friend will understand

Hey Bill - I started this mess didn't I ? I agree with you that to be concerned (your word was skeptical which is a bit more negative than I am at this point) over Gandy's skill level is absolutely valid. It IS intersting that there are some other FA OT's out there STILL (RT Scott Craig and RT Chris Terry for example to my knowledge). The Bills also failed to sign Shelton even when he could be had for vet min. This certainly suggests the Bills LIKE Gandy. As per usual, I will admit I am not the expert and that McNally is. Might he be wrong? Sure, but I still would urge you to raise your emote/think level from "skeptical" to "concerned". On the Verba front, it has been suggested the Bills were simply "checking in" with his agent. Maybe, but one would think that they would only do that if they were truly interested (for the right price of course) in the guy since he could be signed at any moment by someone else (or not!). As to the continuing condemnation of Verba for his actions in Vegas - if they are true, then he won't be signed (o.k. , maybe Miami or oakland will sign him ) If they are unfounded (WHICH THEY MAY WELL BE FOLKS)), then someone sure doesn't like the guy, do they? These reports are pretty condemning of his view towards women (if true, ie Abusive behavior and teenage-like "call girl" stuff practically) -RnJ

Well yeh but you make a day of it right? And one would think it is a special occasion (or else you are really rich and this is your typical occasion!) What do you spend on a special event? Lodging? $150 or more is not an insane price to pay for a great hotel plus additional fees may jack that up. then a nice dinner that same day = $50-100 easy . What if you want to DO something too (like go to a show or see the "sights"). Can you see yourself paying $25-$50 more? Anyway, it starts to climb to $250 per person or more. so $350 or so for an entire day of Bills partying? Expensive? yeh but not so bad for a special occasion. (After saying all that, I prefer $40 seats and a tailgate plus YOU HAVE to sit in the elements otherwise why not sit at home?) RnJ

First off folks, do YOU always believe every word posted in every newspaper? What the hell IS the Review Journal ? The story may indeed be true but I have looked around and it is the only source for this story. Secondly, TD and co. will get to the bottom of this and I would think it would weigh in any decision they make. That was my point - if they deem him a step up from our existing player package and can sign him for no more than what they think he is worth, then I will be happy they signed him Let's just see how this goes - if he is signed, then let him answer these questions about his character directly. Don't condemn him based on this one story from one small town paper. as to him not be signed quickly and being greedy - the supposed story is that he agreed to a paycut last year with a verbal agreement to compensate him for the remaining years of his contract.. When the browns fired the headcoach and his staff, that deal was no longer honored. He ws upset. Wouldn't you be? Was he stupid to agree to the cut in the first place? Maybe, but he was told they would use the money saved in 2004 to help the team. Was this stupid, greedy, or honorable? -RnJ

This is another one of those situations where I, personally, don't know jack and I am ....shall we say...dubious of the pronouncements of the "experts" here at TBD on Verba's talent, comings and goings. So, I simply HOPE that the Bills sign him having determined he represents an improvement to our current O-Line status AND that he can be had for a reasonable price. The best comparison I have for this was the signing of Big Sam. Sam talked up a storm about getting paid a ton but then after receiving nothing but "insulting" offers came to Buffalo for a very reasonable price with incentives (such as keeping himself in shape!). Sam has been an asset to say the least and the rest of the league, IMO, screwed up by allowing Sam to come here at the price we paid. So now we have Ross verba - "underpaid" and unhappy and "unappreciated". His position? Left Tackle! Gulp. Thus, I wil be enthused if TD brings him aboard. Verba or Gandy? Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Texans Lowball Verba -- Tue Jul 26, 2005 --from FFMastermind.com # The Beacon Journal reports when the phone did ring for OT Ross Verba, it was Houston. The Texans had an offer -- a one-year deal in the $1 million range. Not exactly what Verba had in mind when he stormed out of the Browns' facility, even paying back his $450,000 roster bonus to be a free agent. ******************* I guess he hasn't "retired" yet huh?

I am still hoping "my man" Reed can shove his play up a notch to stay on the squad. But, if he's let go, someone will pick him up. I hadn't thought about the typical money shift dropping Clements $2.5. Silly me, I only saw his current salary as a negative - not so! Nate's value is extremely high and IMO the Bills will have to raise the bar quite a bit to sign him EVEN IF Nate agrees to accept a bit less than he might be making on the open market next year. Who is Nate's agent? Is he someone known to work well with TD in the past? The new NFL TV contract and the upcoming new collective bargaining agreement (I hear it could be set in as little as two weeks) will help a lot in determining future long term contracts to some extent. My amateur view on this is that we are looking at $10 mil per year becoming the NORM in the near future for top flight CB's (gasp!) Thus, IMO, if the Bills can sign Nate to a 4 - year extension at, say $42 mil, with figures of 540K (2005), $3.0M (2006),$5.5M (2007),$8.0M (2008),$11.0M (2009) with a $14 Mil signing bonus might work - NC's cap hit for 2005 would go from $2.5M (does that include his amortized bonus?) to $3.34M this year, $5.8 M next year , etc. Those last few year MAY seem excessive (and likely to be never seen by Nate BUT, they may turn out to be close or less than the CB value in those years). Thanks, as always, CP for all your work I love to crunch these numbers too and having you do all the hard digging work (and organizing it in one place) makes this really fun for me. Free wings for you at the tailgate!! cnjbbb baby -Rich

Great job as always CP. Can you answer this (probably obvious, sorry) question: Given the Bills current salary cap status, how much of it is available , after all rookie signings, for free agents and/or to sign extensions? Do you envision ANY possibility that the Bills can extend Clements? Is McGee simply a more likely scenario? My VERY not in-the-know evaluation is that McGee is WAY more likely and that Clements will simply play out his contract and then go to the highest bidder next season. Thanks again for all your work CP. if you are at Hammer's on 9/11, stop by the CNJBBB cooker for free (ha ha) wings and an ice cold Labatts. -RnJ www.cnjbbb.org

This thread is from both myself and RevNJoisy (sitting behind me as I type this) A quote from Terrell Owens: "At the end of the day, I don't have to worry about what people think of me, whether they hate me or not. People hated on Jesus. They threw stones at him and tried to kill him, so how can I complain or worry about what people think?" -- Eagles wide receiver Terrell Owens, on how people might react to his potential camp holdout. Len Pasquarelli , espn soooooooooooo........... Terrell is The Messiah - The Annointed One - The Christ He suffers (for us) He is hated (for us) If he dies (it'll be for us) So those of you who doubt his ways, methods, or tantrums remember who he is. And be thou ashamed excuse us while we go barf up our dinner. *********** My wife is insisting on a serious note: for those of you who are people of faith, you are not alone in your outrage over this particular individual. For those of you who have ever wondered what breaking the third commandment REALLY means, this is it.