richNjoisy

bump Did a lot of you guys miss this or are people convinced OC is a fake? I found this intriguing and it fits with the facts that we have heard (Jimbo says money is not the issue). 'd love to hear from people concerning what they think about this posting - if this is accurate it is really pretty encouraging news. Does anyone know this poster? Sounds legit to me. hope so.

I would say it would be even a bigger deal than that - the Kelly group - if they owned 30% - would have a huge say in who buys the Bills. They obviously would have a huge advantage over other buyers.

Wait a friggin' minute. The "experts" have the Bills losing 13-14 games! How can the Bills do THAT with a top 5 defense??? The Bills won 6 games last year with the 30th ranked offense. Oh! I get it! The Bills will have the 40th ranked offense this year. Must be

O.K. Let's say it is the Bills. What would this mean for the big issue - the move of the Bills after the death of Ralph? More likely? less likely? If the 30% were to a local businessman or group, same question.

Cheatriots why? because they cheated

For those with the NFL Network, here is when the FIRST showing of a tape-delayed Bills preseason game will be shown: Thursday, Aug. 19 11 p.m.: Indianapolis Colts at Buffalo Bills Sunday, Aug. 29 2 a.m.: Cincinnati Bengals at Buffalo Bills Friday, Sept. 3 Noon: Buffalo Bills at Detroit Lions

I don't know. I like the one in the snowy crowd with the Go Bills letters for the Bills site, it is a nice offer. IMO

Are any of you old enough to remember when the Bills decided to start using Steve Tasker more? It was great when he'd line up outside or in the slot and the roll back to take the hand off for an outside run. I have been thinking a lot about CJ's speed and using the same play.......

The timing of this and some other players contracts is FINALLY a break for the Bills - we have no holdouts. San Diego is the most F-ed with a pro bowl WR and a Pro bowl OT holding out. One would THINK that a new collective bargaining agreement will include a salary cap but having said that it is hard to imagine that average salaries of the top players will drop. I would think what will drop will be the lower end players salaries and - in particular - rookie salaries. No one (except agents and rookies) like the way the 1st rounders are occupying salary cap space. But - if their salary drops - I can mostly see it working back in to maintain upper echelon player salaries. As to how this actually plays in to the Revis situation one can only conjecture but it SOUNDS like both sides have points and neither side is willing to bend. In fact, and this is the FUNNY part (for a Bills fan), it is starting to sound personal which is a huge mistake for both sides. Since I know no one that matters is reading this (ha ha) I can safely resolve this - I would offer Revis the same deal + a little more than what Debrickashaw was given with a huge salary for year one (the uncapped year) and then salary and bonuses in annual chunks to balance out possible new CBA situations. Yes, he is breaking a contract but he was going to make $20 mil plus if he did not get hurt over the next 3 years. Make it $45 with 30 mil guaranteed. but, they keep on insulting each other....sweeeeet

How interesting, Doc. So, in money terms, is one more win worth ~ $15 million??? based on playoffs/no playoffs I'd say that would be a no brainer. Also, I am a bit surprised that the simulations only show a difference of one win. My understanding is that games are often won or lost by one or two BIG plays. A "shutdown corner" , one would think, would reduce the big plays markedly.

Now each side is calling the other a liar. Sweeeeeeeeet http://www.sacbee.com/2010/08/11/2952069/j..._rss=Wire%20NFL

sometimes I am too lazy to look uop the stats so I am forced to rely solely on my memory........how am I doing? let me just say (in Chris Berman's voice) "Let's PLAY the GAME" !

oops indeed. my bad

jeesh what a short memory YOU have The Bills BEAT them last year. Why would you state that they should not even play the game? The Jets are trying to buy their way to a Super Bowl. Their run game is suspect. Their run defense is average. Their QB is still a baby whom we intercepted 6 times in one game last year. We beat them while Jauron was still our coach. Now Revis may be out for the game. Will the Bills be underdogs? Of course. But they ain't rolling over and I have some hope they can beat them.

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl/news/story?id=5449134 So what if the Cheatriots can't block or stop the run? They have Tom Brady (Jesus) But they no longer have god to turn to (Bruschi) Also: The Patriots have a problem with unsigned Pro Bowl guard Logan Mankins. He is not in camp and has demanded a trade. what's a satanist to do? hmmmmmmmm

Actually, I think YOU will be a bit surprised - as long as you can jolt the ol' memory banks "Bad 'ol". You are correct that Jauron was conservative (except for ST - he gave April a pretty liberal hand) but Jauron's weakness was not in game planning or recognizing his squad's strengths and weaknesses - it was gameday "smarts" which he had none of. He never seemed to figure out how the wind matters in a game. I have never seen a coach seemingly always getting challenges backwards (challenging when he should and not challenging when he should), his teams always ran out of gas in the 4th quarter - an indication that they were not physically prepared. In my 40+ years of watching football, The Dick was the worst gameday coach by far I have ever experienced. Yes, the Bills have a weaker team (players) than the Cheatriots, Jets, and Fish - but for the first time in 4 years, the coaching difference is not Canyon-wide. It remains to be seen how GOOD Gailey is but we have nowhere to go but up my friend. So, I guess YOU had better be prepared to be surprised! my 2 cents -RnJ

This has been my argument too, PTR. The Bills schedule IS hard - early on but not that much worse than previous 7-9 years. I see the Bills winning 8 games. Less is a disappointment and more is a "bonus". I do NOT see them making the playoffs but if they can go into the break 3-2 then I see that a very hopeful sign. I have the Bills 1-4 if they lose the opener and 2-3 if they win it. Third win, if it comes, will be against the JETSsucksucksucks. I have very little hope of beating Green Bay or the Cheatriots away. No "Dick" is a +2 wins. -RnJ

Wow - do we disagree. One reason to have him on the team is to let him score 3-6 times per year as a KO returner or P returner You have something against the Bills scoring TD's?

I was able to pop up this comparison using a tool at: http://apps.money.cnn.com/bestplaces_2010/...mp;x=22&y=8 State income tax rate Auto insurance sales tax (lowest-highest) premiums job growth Buffalo, NY $39,500 4.00% 4.00%-8.97% N.A. -6.92% Cleveland, OH $39,903 5.50% 0.62%-6.24% $1,165 -8.11% I only used this to point out that Cleveland - which has a larger population than Buffalo (433K to 300K) lost and then regained their NFL team. The Bills have been to 4 super bowls which makes them MORE well known. So, this is one reason it is not a slam dunk that they would not get a new team. But before they have to come back, they would have to leave. I agree with the thread-starter here that although economics obviously are the main factor to a team going or staying, the Bills WITHOUT ANY DOUBT have a large and very loyal fan base. We have stunk for over a decade and still this is true. Raising ticket prices would reduce some of the numbers but most, like me, would tighten our belts and still buy tickets and jackets and tee shirts and beer (notice I did not cut back on beer). In this current economy, how many savvy businessmen do you think would fold with a hand like that to draw five new cards? Sure, they MIGHT be able to get a sweet deal from a rival city but how many cities out there are willing and able to fork over enough public cash to sweetheart a deal enough for someone to move the team? I could go on and on but we have enough to worry about folks - the economy, the wars, the environment, 10 years of losing Bills football, etc etc without adding on fearful conjecture about a possible move. Let tomorrow worry for itself. Today has enough worries. Go Bills! -RichNJoisy (PS: Rich N Rev are one big step closer to moving home----we are in the process of buying land right on Lake Ontario). We are timing the closing with the Home Opener. (of course))

PTR - I can understand why you might think that a coach might do something so stupid - we have had stupid coaching for many years now. But, so far, Chan has not exhibited this nor does his record as a coach indicate that he would put "ego" above what's best to win games. So, since I think that what SHOULD decide whether or not Aaron plays should be how well he picks up the new position (1), how well he practices (2) and how well he performs in scrimmages and preseason games (3) then THAT is what I am expecting Chan will use to determine if he plays or "rides the pine". My personal view - with no idea how well Aaron will play at OLB and with no knowledge of how good of shape he is in - is that it is GREAT Aaron is goingto play since he has been our best LINEMAN for years and played great last year. my 2 cents -RnJ

you are right in a sense - but think of poor Aaron being FORCED to work for $8 million .......poor Aaron on the other hand, he did have a great season last year and is an asset to the team when he has played. I actually like how management has played this - either come and play or go home and quit but we won't be FORCED to do anything. Your choices are play with us (for the measly salary) or get paid nada and in fact be forced to return some of your bonus. But at least you can stay in Texas and play with your kids on the jungle gym. poor Aaron

nope --- won't happen. if they did this they would be both paying him his full bonus and freeing him to sign elsewhere. he will either officially retire or be fined by the Bills and placed on the DNR (did not report) list which frees up the roster spot.

I agree with you on much of this and I would add this conjecture - the Bills have said one thing and repeated it over and over: "We think Aaron is a great ballplayer and we want him to play for us but if he wants to retire that is, of course, up to him". At some point -if you want to talk about the "ugly" - they will begin to fine him if he does not report nor officially retire. They have made it crystal clear that they will not trade him (not to say, of course, that they would not listen to any offers for him). The fact that no trade has been consummated means two things: they have not received any offers they deem worthy to trade him and that offers would be going down (not up) as the season nears since teams already have their roster plans for the season set and are becoming more solidified each passing day. Bottom line is if you want to play and be paid a lot of money, it'll be in Buffalo...otherwise adios. The latest statements by Schobel, in my opinion, are an indication that he has "blinked first" - thus, I think he will be suiting up for the Bills in the next week or so.

I do not think there are no monetary ramifications for Schobel if he chooses to retire. You are correct about how a bonus accelerates EXCEPT (I think) for a retirement - one would THINK a team would have the lone stipulation in a contract about the player actually not being allowed to CHOOSE not to play out his contract and be penalized an amortized part of his signing bonus. In other words, I can't sign a 10-year deal with a $50 million signing bonus and then quit in year 2 - at least not without returning a part of the bonus. One example I can think of is Ricky Williams who TRIED to retire but Miami successfully sued him for a portion of his signing bonus. So, I BELIEVE Schobel, if he retires, will be forced to return bonus money to the Bills. If I am correct, isn't he in like the third year of a six-year deal? Thus, by my reckoning, he would be forced to pay back 2/3 of his signing bonus as a penalty for retiring. Does anyone know definitively what the rules/agreements are for his contract? -RichNJoisy

The Miami Herald confirms that Dolphins DE Phillip Merling will miss the 2010 season after tearing his Achilles' tendon. Merling reportedly sustained the injury during a football workout, putting the finishing touches on a nightmare offseason. The last pick of the 2008 first round had taken the majority of the first-team reps at right defensive end in spring practices. The Dolphins will now rely on this year's first-rounder Jared Odrick after losing both Merling and NT Jason Ferguson in the past week. Maybe he will rehab in prison??