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Feels like a Hegelian Dialectic. States wanted a cut and needed an excuse to enforce regulation. I mean, some employee accidentally posts something on a message board and one day later the NYT is all over it? Then ESPN drops sponsorship? Too fast over something too small. Little shady stuff like this goes on everywhere and the NYT doesn't give a hoot.

This is assuming they were valid penalties, and not just minor penalties called on us because of our reputation.

I pointed this out in the locked thread. Any conspiracy whatsoever, no matter how small, is grouped in with UFOs/lizard people/etc. It's been turned into a slur. The bolded above is a great example. They never argue the point, they just ad hominem attack you.

Amen. You're better off going outside and being angry at squirrels.

Adam Silver has been talking about legalizing gambling for a while now. The DK and FD marketing blitz has been so strong you have to wonder where this money is coming from. It's just not something I've ever seen venture capital money do. I think the major sports leagues are giving them discounts to promote themselves during commercials. NHL is going to expand to Vegas soon. Like I said earlier, I think they're just priming us for full-scale legalization. Too much money not to.

Gotcha. Didn't know that.

Beerball should at least have the balls to explain why he closes those threads, instead of using automatic messages that don't apply. I think we were contributing more positively than 90% of threads on here. The only place we weren't contributing positively was the NFL's (and Buffalo Bill's) bottom line.

Perhaps, but the TOP TOP player like maxdalury use custom algorithms based on usage rates, touches, past history, etc. He knows that on average he finishes in the top 20 percentile so he bets on every single game he can. 8 out of 10 times you'll lose to him in a head to head. I doubt he does any research on new sites, he just plugs numbers into his algorithms.

I used to do affiliate marketing and I know Draftkings was all over it. What that means is they allow approved publishers to promote their business and for everybody that signs up, the publisher is paid a fee. My guess is they are outsourcing their advertising to everybody on Earth to saturate the market. A more sinister theory is that the major sports leagues are using fantasy betting to prime the public to more readily accept straight-forward sports betting in a few years when it becomes legal. Which is on par with everybody else. Most people aren't losing thousands of dollars. They just lose a bit more than they win. Only the top percent makes a nice profit.

A ha! That makes a lot of sense. Big advantage. Nobody monitors these guys anyways, who busted them?

Regardless, every game with meaningful money you're playing against sharps that use computer algorithms to predict winners. They're going to beat you 8 out of 10 times. Something like 1% of all players stay in the green over the course of the year.

There's a lot of talk in the article about "data" and "insider information". What data and inside information do the employees have? Does this mean they take the lineups of the must successful bettors and use them on the competing site? For all the details in the articles, this was really vague. Don't be. Draftkings is partnered with MLB and Fanduel is partnered with the NBA. They're quietly trying to legalize sports gambling.

I think it's a very obvious thing to do. Right now the most vulnerable area to fixing games is calling penalties on crucial plays. Whether you agree that it's done or not, I think people should acknowledge THAT is the way it would be done IF it's done. They should implement reviews for that reason alone.

To answer this, I always think about the ESPN report where the owners knew Goodell was covering up Spygate but went with it to protect the "shield". Billionaires don't like to lose money. Teams make a large percentage of their money from revenue sharing. The more revenue there is, the more revenue there is to share. And if there is more revenue when the Cowboys or Giants or Patriots are good, then the owners would go along with it. Pegula came out of absolutely nowhere. I never heard of the guy before he bought the Sabres and I don't know anybody else who did. Who knows what his motives truly are.

Inter-league makes way too much sense. Explains how Cutler feel into their laps. NHL might be the most rigged with the LA and Chicago turning into powerhouses, and now the Rangers in the finals. Boston a couple years ago, etc. Don't forget Bettman is a Stern crony, and despite the forward-thinking, so is Adam Silver.

Good insight. But in my experience you can spot the outsourced Indian reps by their overly formal way of typing. I haven't seen that on here. Unless they have scripts.

To play devil's advocate, why aren't the Jets or Bears better? They did have deep playoff runs over the last decade but nothing like the Patriots.

One suggestion is that we're small market and we sell-out no matter what. The NFL knows the Bills won't make much more money whether they win or lose. Makes you see this in a different light: @mikerodak Per @DanGrazianoESPN, Giants coach Tom Coughlin told his players before Sunday's game that the Bills would beat themselves with penalties.

What's happened over the last 10 years or so is that whenever somebody accuses X group/corporation of conspiring to do Y, they are immediately grouped in with lizard people/UFOs/JFK/etc. The truth is governments/intelligence agencies/corporations and many other groups work by conspiring against the public and are actually caught all the time. They have turned "conspiracy theorist" into a slur in order to discredit ANYTHING remotely close to one. It's very dangerous propaganda and it worked. The NFL fixing games does not seem insane to me, especially when it happened in the NBA less than 10 years ago.

There's something up with him. Even after making the 51 yarder he seemed unsure of himself. He seems prone to the yips like what happened to him in Miami.

It seems far-fetched, but the same thing that doomed us versus the pats doomed us today, which is penalties in crucial situations. I've said it many times before, IF the NFL is fixed, it would be via refs calling penalties at critical times. It would not be the players because they're paid too much, but refs, who as johnnygold pointed out, are part-time employees. And it would not be by calling a lot of penalties since that shows up on the box score, but calling penalties at CRITICAL times since that is not kept as a statistic in any way, shape, or form. It happened in the NBA folks, not making that up. It could happen in the NFL. HOWEVER, when Donaghy did it, it wasn't about who won but about the spread. I believe we were 6 point favorites here so I'm not sure why the Incognito call would have to be made.

Even then, it was coming away with 0 on two red zone drives that ruined us. How is it possible to come away with 0 without a turnover? Just a disaster.

Taylor did look good in the 2nd half. He was overthinking in the 1st half. Started using his feet in the 2nd. I think he did enough for us to win today.

It's his third year and the team's record should not be a reflection on him until he was the top guy. 6-10, 9-7, TBD.

Blowout win, bad game, blowout win, bad game. I'm seeing a pattern. I watched the All-22 of the Giants during the week. I thought the only way they can beat us is if Eli throws the short timing routes and we don't defend them. Well that's exactly what happened the 1st half just long enough to fall into a 16-3 hole. What the f*ck is Ryan and Thurman thinking after the Pats game? Do they not know that the Giants are going to throw short timing slants? I'm an amateur observer and I figured it out.