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Kyle Williams was hardly on the field. I dont think he was in the 7v7 or 11v11s at all. I think they're playing it safe. Same with Wood. He got a few reps in the team drills, but I didn't see a lot of him. Unless I'm mistaken, I did see him get quite a bit of push on a couple of run plays. I was mostly watching Gilmore or the D line (especially Merriman and Mario) when I wasn't watching the ball, so I kinda neglected the interior. I did see Dareus looking strong in some one on one drills, and for such a big guy, he was remarkably quick and shifty. Dwan Edwards was in Kyle's place a lot of the time and I did notice him creating some pressure next to Dareus in the team drills.

That time works for me.

One last thing: We can probably bid a fond farewell to McGee. He was working out vigorously on his own early in the practice... he looked quick doing ladder drills... then, next thing I know, he's sitting down getting treatment on his leg. I didn't see what happened but while he was getting his leg looked at he angrily threw a towel at a trainer. Well, not at the trainer, but he hit him with it. More of just a frustrated flail. Later I saw him with his leg wrapped in ice.

CORRECTION: I see that Anderson was held out, so I have no idea who was backing up at LE/LOLB in the nickel on 7v7s, but he was awesome! I could've sworn it was 93, and I don't think Dwan (98) is that agile, so maybe I can figure it out once the videos are up on bb.com Now that I think about it, maybe it was Bradham (53). It was the far side of the field- Sorry guys.

Yeah you're right- I think what made them so remarkable is how FItz was able to rifle them to the exact spot they needed to be. His timing with the receivers was impeccable. I made a point of focusing on Gilmore quite a bit and it would seem like the nanosecond the WR would being to turn back, the ball would already be there. I was skeptical about the influence David Lee would have on Fitz, but at least today, it seems Fitz is getting something out of it. Or maybe he was just having an awesome day. I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE SEASON TO START!!!! BILLS OPENER Yeah that was a beaut! It was about 50 yards IN THE AIR and about a 70 yard gain/TD. It's always interesting to imagine these plays in real scenarios against actual opponents: Would so-and-so break that tackle? Would so-and-so lay the lumber on that receiver? I mean, Spiller looked like he might've had 3 or 4 touchdowns in real game scenarios. Oh, and not only did Hagan catch that bomb- SJ reeled in a bomb from Fitz, as did Graham and Spiller. SJ had another that may have touched the ground. It def woulda went to the booth in real life. FJ also caught a bomb from VY which was one of VY's 4 or 5 good throws the whole practice.

yeah I saw that too. He wasn't running around but didnt appear to be injured either. Did you see him do some pushup with Nelson? What was up with that? And my buddy just reminded me of when Thigpen whipped the ball at the ball boy. I mean, the kid had his hands up and was expecting a pass, but definitely not with that type of velocity. I almost spit out the water I was drinking. One more funny thing- I heard a 4 or 5 year old girl ask her mom, "Why are most of the players black?"

Oh I forgot- both FJ and Spiller had some really nice long runs. I think Spiller is really improving on his patience and knowing when to turn on the afterburners. Also- the Dline as a whole had at least three plays where all four of them beat their blocks and were on top of the QB. They didn't seem like busted screens or draws, but I mean literally running by the oline like they werent even there.

Some of the things I noticed at camp today: ----------Fitz was on fire. He had some beautiful DEEP throws that would've been TDs or at least HUGE gains. He was also as accurate as I've ever seen him. He had the ball on the money all over the field.... He did have one really terrible throw over the middle, but I think it might've been a busted route. I couldn't even tell who he was throwing to. ----------Is it too late to just cut VY and Pigpen now and look for another backup? They were both god awful. VY had a couple nice bullets over the middle, but was constantly over- and under- throwing receivers. His timing was worse than I could ever describe. One of his deep balls was so under-thrown that by the time it got near the receiver who had beaten his man, THREE defenders were in the area, and the FS made an easy pick. It looked like a shanked punt. If I didn't know better, I'd think he won a radio contest to win a chance to practice with the Bills. JUST TERRIBLE. I was excited when he was signed and defended him and the FO, but I can no longer do so. VY does still have his legs, so if he makes the team and Fitz goes down, expect to see a QB option offense. ----------Mario is every good thing anyone has ever said about him. ----------Merriman appears to be 100%. He got a lot of time in the nickel package during the 11v11s. Even if he isn't 100%, he was still disruptive and I expect everyone will soon agree that Buddy's gamble finally paid off. ---------Gilmore is everything everyone has been saying: fast, physical, and smart......But... he was getting abused on back shoulder throws on hitches. I'm guessing that there was some emphasis on testing him in that area, and that it is something correctable. Even then, he was right on his man and I think he can be coached to make the proper adjustments. Otherwise he was all over the field and looked like a #1 NFL corner. ---------Easley is a beast. Maybe it's the 81, but he looked like TO out there- deceptively fast and was catching everything in his radius.. ---------Cordy Glenn is huge. Merriman was giving him some problems at times, but Glenn looks like he can start. ---------Searcy LABELED Roosevelt, but Roosevelt popped right back up. ---------I take back every bad thing I ever said about Tashard Choice. The guy looked super nimble- I even mistook him for Fred once. He also faked Sukay (I think) out of his jock for a would be touchdown after some nifty moves to get into the second level. ---------Potter looks like he's about 15 years old. The kid has a leg. But Lindell was banging some deep ones too- even a 50 yarder one of the field goal scramble drills. ---------TJ Graham could easily be the #2 receiver. I don't know if was just Fitz playing his heart out or what, but TJ, Easely, and Donald Jones ALL looked really good. I think they ALL will get significant time this year and ALL make solid contributions. --------Nelson was doing push-ups on the side line during most of the practice. A set of 5, then chill for a couple minutes, then do 10, then wait a minute, do 5 more, and so on... it didn't seem to correspond with anything happening on the field, but it was weird how he'd start and stop really abruptly, as if it did relate with something else. Seemed random, tho. -------The Stache is very active- running around and talking to individual players in between plays and during drills. I like it. -------Jim Leonard was on the sideline, tho I'm sure you heard about that already -------John Murphy looks noticeably older than the last time I remember seeing him. I think that's it. I'm gonna review the pics I took on my phone and post them if any look good. Got any ?s I will do my best to answer! PS I havent been to camp since it was held in Fredonia, and I must say they are doing it RIGHT at SJF. Great atmosphere, plenty of friendly staff, and you can tell the Bills et al are making a concerted effort to make camp a destination for fans. I truly recommend it to all.

Not to mention it wasn't like proven DCs were flooding the in-box with applications!

NFL Pro 32 Power Rankings Interesting as this is the first year the Associated Press is branching out from the NCAA sports and publishing a NFL rankings poll. Also, it'll be interesting to see how closely the rankings will mirror the actual standings as the season progresses. What do you guys think of the panel? I don't put a lot of stock in preseason rankings, but during the season I'd like to see if players/coaches/non-voting media, make any reference to the polls. I can't remember a player or anyone commenting on the ESPN Power Rankings. Do you guys think this will be any different?

You're wrong! But really, I don't think Whaley would've even came here in the first place without some type of assurance he would be succeeding Nix in the relatively near future. The Bills are seemingly in better shape than the Browns are personnel-wise, so I think it'd be a long shot for him to leave now that the Bills have given him a solid foundation (on paper, yada, yada, yada). The flip side is that he may be interested in making a name for himself and proving he can build a perennial contender on his own. There's risk involved with that, however, and at least IMO, I'd rather roll with the sure(-er) thing.

what'd I do? I noticed a few were missing and got carried away I guess. Didn't intend to do anything douche-ish

Also: Steve Tasker Vince Young Derek Hagan Corey McIntyre David Clowney I think that's it, but it's tough to look through who has already been posted trying to avoid reposts and also make sure to not miss anybody. I started a list a while ago but haven't kept it up. I don't follow all of these guys, most of them are boring. I started a list of Bills accounts about 2 years ago, but haven't maintained it. #NotAStalker oh yeah TJ Graham and how could I forget the franchise long snapper?!?! Garrison Sanborn More: Mike Caussin Tashard Choice Jarron Gilbert Sam Young Fendi Onobun Ruben Brown And now I really am giving up.

Mario Williams Mark Anderson Ron Brooks Spencer Johnson Leodis McKelvin Dorin Dickerson Prince Miller Tyler Thigpen Nigel Bradham Chris White Scott Chandler Scott McKillop Eric Wood Brian Moorman More notable formers: Biscuit Andre

Well, I'm discounting the Fins bc I think they'll suck. I don't think the Bills are. You're probably right. The point I'm trying to make is that we as fans should be more concerned about the Jets as it seems to me it's more likely that the Bills playoff hopes hinge more on the Jets than the Patriots*. No matter how you slice it, the Pats* are likely going to win the AFCE, and the Bills better make sure they are ahead of the Jets in the Wild Card race. That's my hope as well. The Jets D, despite finishing in the top 5 overall, dropped in some significant categories, including all the way to 20th in PPG. They're getting older and can't seem to generate a pass rush without their blitz packages leaving them vulnerable to Gailey's quick hit offense. With the Jets D seemingly on decline, and the Bills O seemingly on the rise, I starting to think the Bills are going to have the edge in this matchup.

I don't think the Bills are discounting anyone. I think some (possibly the majority) of fans are discounting pretty much everyone but NE*. I re-read the OP and see where I literally asked a ? about what the Bills are doing so I understand the confusion. I should've clarified about including the fan perspective. To be more clear, there are two main points I was hoping to spark a discussion about: 1. From a fan's perspective, should we be worried about how the Bills match up against the Pats* as much as how they match up against the Jets? and 2. By seemingly building a team with an emphasis on stopping Brady and the Pats*, does that hinder the Bills ability to stop a team with an entirely different philosophy (specifically, the Jets)? or, as I ended the OP: How do you think the Bills match up against the Jets? Does it matter as much as how the Bills match up against the Pats*?

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I do think the BIlls will more than likely be good against the run as well. As you two and others have stated, the new scheme and players look to be good against the pass and the run. I guess what I meant is looking towards the Pats* as a benchmark from the fans perspective. I'm sure the coaches aren't ignoring the Jets or anyone else. I neglected to ask about the Bills offense, and in particular the OL. Those are good questions. Especially considering the Jets/Pats* debate. D is not the Pats* strong point, so against them, it'll come down to the Bills D against their O, whereas the against the Jets, the more important matchup seems to be the Bills O vs the Jets D.

Oops! I searched but did not go back far enough apparently. Should I delete his thread or something?

I was listening to Chris Berman on John Murphy's new show on WGR the other day and I thought he made an interesting point (toward the end of the show) about where the Bills should be aiming their sights. They didn't dig too deep on this topic but I got to thinking, "Are the Bills putting too much of an emphasis on getting after the Pats* while neglecting a likely more meaningful rival in the Jets?" The reason I say "more meaningful" is this: Even if the Bills beat NE* twice, NE* still has a good chance to win the AFCE by posting a better overall record. This could lead to the Bills and Jets battling for a Wild Card spot. The Jets are seemingly going back to their bread-n-butter and gearing up for a ground and pound offense. Does anyone think that they might have a better chance to beat the Bills now that the Bills have devoted so many resources to pass defense? Or is the Bills D just going to be that much better overall so that this is a non-issue? So, what do you guys think? How do the Bills match up against the Jets? Does it matter as much as how the Bills match up against the Pats*?

Did you know towels are a bunch of lil towels stitched together?

12 teams would be ideal, I think.

Maybe I shouldn't have said "No brainer" earlier, it's more of a hunch I have. I think Rice is a better player overall, but obviously that doesn't always translate into better fantasy stats. Then there's this: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8143634/arian-foster-houston-texans-says-going-vegan

They're all on the NFL Network, but not necessarily aired live. IIRC, last year you could find them live online via streaming sites of questionable legality.