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26 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said:
I get that complaining about draft is an annual rite of passage, but I swear, if Buffalo got Aiyuk or Higgins for a 6th or 7th rounder, some people here would be fuming because we didn't use that pick to draft a replacement kicker for Tyler Bass
The only thing surer is that some randoms will whine incessantly about posters being unsatisfied with draft selections.
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24 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Yea think he is a sub package rusher. But I like him here too.
Former Bills comp would be Arthur Moats.
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1 minute ago, billsfan89 said:
I think they have about 5-6 spots where they think picks can get rostered. I don’t think they want to come away with 7 picks due to how two of their picks last season got placed on waivers.
They badly need depth at CB, RB and DE that’s three positions where I feel confident they will make selections at. I also think WR, C and DT are in play.
Maybe so but better too much than too little.
IMO, they will likely need a couple OL for the 53 that aren't on the roster by the end of August, IMO. And it's a great draft to get some. I expect La'ell Collins to retire in camp like Brandon Shell did last year........Collins was purdy washed the last time he was relatively healthy.
What I really doubt they address is QB. But they should. Trubisky is a sh!t show. His confidence and the will to compete looked gone last year.
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On 4/10/2024 at 1:34 PM, 78thealltimegreat said:
I was going to say the final word on this comes from Gabe who basically said the people that think Josh doesn’t work with his guys in the off season was total bs he just doesn’t have a camera shoved in everyone’s face for social media to look at. This whole thread was an embarrassment.
I know this much, Gabe and Josh Allen were not on the same page a lot last season. Must've worked too hard on it.
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Yeah this seems like an "off the bus starter" kinda' draft so need seems very relevant to McBeane.
Need(and maybe get in this order):
Edge
IOL
CB
WR
LB
RB
OT
and hopefully a backup QB prospect in there.
Don't get too caught up in the numbers.........players will get injured or trades can be made in camp.
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4 hours ago, FireChans said:
Where does Mack Hollins rank on this list
I asked Siri
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6 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
Well, if it's for a pick this year, he better be restructuring right now because 7 pm is fast approaching. Something tells me that's not on his plate right now. Anyway, if there was any team that would do it (and I don't think they will), it should be NE, a receiver-less team with $53.7 million in cap space.
It's paperwork and likely already prepared ahead if the possibility of a trade for a vet had been considered(which it likely has). For all we know everything could be done and agreed to.
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1 minute ago, Logic said:
I'm genuinely curious: Has this ever happened before in the NFL, to your knowledge?Not to my knowledge but we've known about teams agreeing to trade players to specific teams weeks before they were allowed to be traded. Or, as in the case of Aaron Rodgers, his trade to the Jets became a foregone conclusion in February and finalized April 24. June 1st is 36 days away. No reason a place holder pick can't be used.
But I think there are less involved machinations. Beane can get to $14M for Aiyuk pretty easy and likely has paperwork in place to address such a scenario immediately.
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1 hour ago, Logic said:
I don't understand how NFL analysts, all of NFL twitter, and four pages worth of posts on this thread don't seem to be acknowledging the following:
The Bills CAN'T trade for Deebo. Literally cannot do it.
The only way it would work is if San Fran said "we'll pay most of his salary this year", which...why would they do that?
Failing that unlikely scenario, the Bills' salary cap situation makes it literally impossible for them to trade for Samuel, Aiyuk, or Higgins right now. They can't afford it.I think @NoSaint was alluding to this but I've talked about this scenario before with regard to trading Diggs...........the Bills could agree to trade their current pick(s) to the Niners or Seahawks tonight for a future pick(s) of theirs........and then trade it back to them for Aiyuk, Deebo or Metcalf in June.
But I also think that Beane can pull some levers fast to make cap space.
It's definitely plausible.
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Patriots were the big winners, IMO. Love Drake Maye.
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5 minutes ago, Process said:
That was what I walked away from our draft party thinking. I've often compared the draft to an auction. Sometimes when items are bidding fast and furious it's easy to lose focus. That extra 24 hours allows teams to really think about how much they prioritize a player. I do expect Beane to trade again.
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4 hours ago, Einstein said:
Could be.
Depends how many 2nd round grades there are. If there are 30+ second round grades, then it would still be a 2nd round pick.Let me put it this way.........second round "grades" are entirely subjective.........a matter of opinion.
I don't take too much away from most teams having a similar number.........I think that's largely group-think........much like with the recruiting process where all the random services seem to come up with about the same number of 5 stars every year. (Around 35 every year, fwiw)
Second round picks are an actual thing.
Once the draft starts getting into comp picks it gets weird but the first 2 rounds are designed to give everybody 1 chance each and you know it's not going to be any more than 64 total.
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16 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
I think that the truth is somewhere in between. As an example of the Bills offer their 2025 1st and their own 2025 2nd teams probably expect picks at like 28 and 60 (or whatever). If the Bills trade their 2025 1st and the Vikings 2025 2nd teams probably expect the picks to be like picks 28 and pick 43.
Yeah it's really an old line of discussion for 40 years ago. Trade value charts were created to put a finer point on the value of picks. Those keep evolving.
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1 hour ago, Einstein said:
Chris Trappaso (CBS) made a good point on WGR last night.When you're picking 28th and lower every year, a 1st round pick is really a 2nd round pick. In most draft years, there are only about 20-25 first round graded players.
So if you're a team like the Bills, who is consistently picking late 20's in the first round, trading a 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick is similar to trading 2 second round picks.By that leap of logic........the Bills second round pick is then like a 3rd round pick.
The reality is that the success rate in general drops in each subsequent round so a first round pick is still worth more than a second round pick, etc..
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2 minutes ago, SCBills said:
Perfect example of that for us would be Terrell Bernard. Pick made no sense in a vacuum of one year for where he was taken, with Edmunds and Milano on the roster.
Fast forward two years and the guy is a key piece of the defense and an absolute stud in our system.
Yep. The easiest way to look at it is "needs change fast".
Nobody thought the Bills need DL help in spring of 2014.........when they could have just saved picks and selected Aaron Donald, the best DL of the first quarter of this century. By spring of 2016 they were reaching for Shaq Lawson and Adolphus Washington in the first 3 rounds of the draft.
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1 hour ago, Mikey152 said:
clearly you didn’t read the post…probably just the title.Nowhere did I say the Bills should play small ball or not challenge defenses vertically. I also didn’t say they shouldnt draft a deep threat…in fact, I am sure they will. What I DID say was this idea of procuring a Thomas or Mitchell or even Coleman type of receiver over a Worthy or Franklin is a bit of a mistake.
big plays, yes. Big receiver, no.
Oh, I read it all. I clearly addressed your point about the import of WHERE players line up on the LOS. In real application, it matters. What you are talking about is compromising with regard to matchup advantages.
That's a very "on paper" view of the game.
And on paper Stef Diggs should have been putting up big numbers in the postseason in Buffalo. Unfortunately, on the field, his lack of physicality diminished his impact when the officials inevitably tucked away their flags. There are clear advantages to having both size and speed on the perimeter. Especially with the type of QB the Bills have. Whether you call that a "need" or not is just semantics. It's just unintelligent to not aspire to it.
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14 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
The Bengals don't have the money to keep this team together and do the money up front can kick exercise that sustaining a good team takes. Burrow will force his way out of there before there is any question of Allen leaving here IMO.
They don't have the appetite to keep the team together. The Brown family have clawed their way from Paul Brown owning like 5%-10% of the team originally to now owning 97%. They could generate some serious cash without relinquishing any control. If they wanted to. They do not.
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59 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:
Yessss. Thats my contention too -that more than "#1 WR" or "#2 WR", i rather think of our receivers are (in) capable of challenging the opposing D in every part of the field cos our QB can reach there without rainbowing passes.
At this moment, we dont have that kind of field coverage from the WR room. The skillset leaves large areas of uncovered green. Hope that changes in the next 51 hours.
There is also this phenomena where the further fans get from the regular season the more they start to connect dots that they had known that the universe will not allow to meet just months earlier. "We don't need an X receiver" was once "sure, Trent Edwards probably CAN run a no huddle offense if you give him Lee Evans and TO". The deeper we get into the offseason the more people forget games aren't won on paper, they are won on TV......where it's much move violent. Mini-camps with their no-contact don't help quell the delusion.
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32 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
Yes they do
Someone not yet on the roster is going to get a significant amount of targets the next few seasons
It has to be a guy w the physical traits to warrant them
Yeah what @Mikey152 is missing is the critical importance of big plays.
Defense now is all about preventing them.........and the offense desperately need them because it's hard to execute 10-18 play drives in an era of such turnover and so little practice without unforced errors........let alone the forced one's.
It's why scoring fell off around the league last season.
A lot of teams who thought they had enough good weapons going into last season found out they did not.
Those outside positions..........particularly the X being on the LOS and thus allowing you to put another receiver in motion to free them up.........are critically important because it's easier to get chunks out there if your QB can get the ball deep.
And Allen is a unicorn on a lot of deep throws. He isn't a great bucket-ball tosser but he can reach parts of the field with ropes that defense's just aren't going to be able to consistently cover without leaving something wide open underneath or in the middle. Not leaning into that strength would be organizational malpractice.
People think that the Bills were killing it offensively under Brady but the truth was that it was a struggle. They were having to run Allen almost 10x per game down the stretch to make their small-ball passing game work.
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Yep and I'd also add that the Bills don't "need" to win a Super Bowl.
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3 hours ago, Virgil said:
The crazy thing is that he's sort of a Khalil Shakir comp. 6' tall T-Rex armed slot receiver who has transitioned gradually more outside and put up big numbers. Maybe @Alphadawg7 is selling Khalil way short.
And truth is........guys who compare to St. Brown basically never turn into anything at the NFL level. His list of physical comps is a bunch of players who never made it.
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They look like kicky ball "kits".
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1 hour ago, Brandon said:
Agreed, and to me, I thought it really showed up after the catch. Sure, if he catches it in stride and can hit the afterburner, he's a major problem. But in traffic, if he can't, if he has to turn and run and the defender is in decent position, he's usually not going anywhere. Very surprised to see how many short passes with little to no RAC out of a guy with that kind of speed and burst.
Well Brian Thomas Jr. basically ran a Gabe Davis route tree.........which means anything he catches in front of coverage is going to be while moving forward or at a dead stop. Tall, leggy players aren't going to get YAC in those situations. Most players don't, actually. Gabe couldn't be used over the middle because his hands were atrocious. They'd try him in the slot in camp and/or preseason every year to see if his offseason of work had improved his hands so he could be used as a big slot to expand his usefulness........but it never did take. BTJ's hands are not a strength either but Gabe was a very different situation.
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7 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:
Lindy's 64 I think he's only here for 2 or 3 years MAX(could be a one and done possibly) I think he can be the bridge guy that brings the franchise back to respectability and gets them in the playoffs but agreed then they will need to find the guy that can really navigate them to a Cup contending team.
Yeah, ultimately I just question if a team will buy into him for any sustained period of time now because in the locker room you are what your record says you are.........and his record says "not a capable championship coach". Fair or unfair, young men in pro sports see things in black and white like that. Pegula and Adams just gotta' know that coming in to avoid wasting more seasons.
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Yep it has that 2016 Shaq-Ragnuts-Washington "off-the-bus-starters" draft feel to it.
It shouldn't be a total disaster like that one because the players are actually walking off the bus into proven systems........but doesn't feel like they've gotten much juice for their squeeze.