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58 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
I guess Phillips is an activate during playoffs guy
It might take him that long to get into football shape. He looked like a bowl of mashed potatoes at his PC a couple weeks ago.
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On 9/11/2025 at 11:15 AM, GunnerBill said:
Oh I'm not saying they don't need a better 1 tech. I didn't like the Daquan contract when they did that before 2024 and it has played out exactly as I'd have predicted, overpaying for a declining talent. But whatever the reasons there is no excusing performances as bad as the linebackers and safeties put out there on Sunday and they are accountable for that. They were terrible.
Yeah they were.....until the last few drives. And I agree the Bernard extension was dumb. Made no sense. This is not a guy who is likely to start in the NFL for the length of his extension even.......he is almost inevitably going to get hurt enough times from bouncing around in that traffic and then the nose for the ball won't matter because he will become physically limited, IMO. Even if he repeated his historic splash play season from a couple years ago not many teams were going to sign up for a MLB that size with a history of being too banged up late in the season. The Bills weren't going to have to pay him more than they did, IMO so Beane just took a bad risk there like he did when he foolishly extended Eric Wood for 2018 back in summer of 2017 when there was basically ZERO chance he would leave Buffalo for numerous reasons..........and then ended up eating $10M when he failed a physical in January.
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10 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said:
Wasn't it Fina that said "My job is done after 3 seconds"? Man that would be rough with the current state of quarterbacking, especially with a QB like Josh.
Yeah, that was him. Fina was one of those guys who gave off the impression he really didn't like football and did not appreciate the fans one bit. Surprising how many of those guys get out of the league and then decide they want to become analysts and podcasters talking about the game they didn't enjoy for the people they didn't like.
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11 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:
The bolded is SO important to remember. It's generally true of ALL LBs tbh, that they need the guys up front to keep them somewhat clean to truly shine. Even Ray Lewis got chewed up the year that Siragusa and Sam Adams departed. I know he got hurt, but there was public discord over the Ravens DL no longer occupying blockers the way it once had. Took the team a couple years to recalibrate and replace those big uglies.
The Bills clearly do not have a true monster 1T who can command OL attention and therefore free up the 2nd level behind him. DaQuan Jones has had flashes in his Bills tenure, but more often than not now seems to be getting absolutely WASHED by double-teams and/or handled by single-teams. It's been an ongoing failing of McBeane to not have a stud next to Oliver all these years. We criticize Ed for being inconsistent and disappearing, but he's like THE guy OLs need to neutralize. Where are his teammates on the DL?
It's crazy that they gave the disinterested Star Lotulelei a 5 year $50M contract to protect the DE-sized Edmunds but are trying to get by with smaller 1 techs with the narrow shouldered, safety-sized Bernard. I greatly prefer what he brings to what Edmunds brought because turnovers and splash plays are so important in the game now. With Poyer and Hyde gone he is really their only guy with a nose for the ball. And LONG gone are the days when the Steelers and Rams met in a SB while being 1-2 in turnovers lost. Those possessions are so critical now. And it's always going to be hard to get him thru a potential 20 game season intact if he isn't clean.
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1 hour ago, mannc said:
Jerry Ostroski said that giving Hamilton a free run was not Walker’s fault, but the guy inside him (can’t remember who it was). I’m skeptical…
Yeah I was going to edit my post to include that. John Fina said it as well. That may be the case but John Fina in particular was one of the greatest "wasn't my fault" players in Bills history so I'm not inclined to trust his opinions on assignments.
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They've been doing these for many years now.
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22 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:
Whats Tim Settle up to these days?
In Houston. Coming off a season where he had more sacks, more tackles and more TFL than Ed Oliver.
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10 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Oh I'm not saying they don't need a better 1 tech. I didn't like the Daquan contract when they did that before 2024 and it has played out exactly as I'd have predicted, overpaying for a declining talent. But whatever the reasons there is no excusing performances as bad as the linebackers and safeties put out there on Sunday and they are accountable for that. They were terrible.
Well they played very little football this summer because McBeane were trying to get to opening day healthy. And that's what it looks like when a talented, vengeance-fueled opponent brings it to a team that isn't anywhere near physically prepared for that level of intensity. But late in the game they both came up with big plays recovering a fumble and stopping Zay Flowers for no gain. Unfortunately, the Bills have been the primary offseason fixation of their next two vengeful opponents as well. They don't have the luxury of easing into their schedule. That's why they were playing football at practice yesterday instead of the usual.
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16 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
I actually disagree very strongly. The more I watch the all22 the more convinced I am that the linebackers and the safetys were the primary reason for the defensive failure.
I caught Joe Marino's bit on WGR he said that same.
I don't think it was primarily coaching (though I do think Babich is continually trying to "do too much" in these games.... some bear front, some base defense, too many blitzes which Lamar killed) it was primarily a more basic inability to gst basic run fits right. Bernard was dreadful, Rapp was worse. Milano was almost as bad. Williams was all over the place and Bishop still looks tentative and late on most plays.
It isn't so much about tackling Henry in space. I agree that is darn hard. It is about basic gap discipline and run fits. And the linebackers and safeties sucked at it on Sunday.
I don't know what he has been coached but he should not have followed through with that blitz. No way. That is just bad football. Players have to be accountable.
I am in the middle on this argument. I think @HappyDays is right that they need a dominant 1 tech if they want to play base nickel with 2 less-than-physical LB's. It was different when they had 250# 1st round pick Tremaine Edmunds, having to sacrifice pass rush to protect that no-play-making SOB was a ridiculous state of affairs. Bernard NEEDS protection. That MF'er is a turnover magnet and you need those kind of players opposite a high powered offense. Bernard also might be their best pass rusher(aside from Ed if he plays like this) and you can't use Bernard on the blitz if you can't control the middle of the LOS.
And I do somewhat excuse the LB's and safeties some for being in preseason form because they basically didn't play behind this line in game action until Sunday and the Ravens clearly put a lot of thought into this game plan. The Bills were reacting. Whatever they might have drawn up they weren't able to get to it because Monken beat them to the punch. That said, the huge, untouched run gains by the Ravens weren't appreciably different than getting gashed by a few huge pass plays. So by late in the game the Bills defense was still fresh. Even Ed Oliver only played 35 snaps and it seemed like he was not coming off the field in the second half.
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1 hour ago, PoundingDog said:
I admit Ed Oliver is growing on me. Not eloquent, but direct and authentic. The answer on his maturity is unusal but does give you the simple straight thinking he has on the subject. And I do like his view on facing the Jets running attack this week: a second shot at it.
He may be finally reaching his potential. He's been better in his career than some give him credit for but his potential has always been to be a poor man's Aaron Donald.
He's never been that. Even in those two big Thanksgiving games he had you couldn't say he was the difference in the game. Sunday night he was.
They were hanging on for dear life defensively and those TFL's, the sack and the forced fumble made it just possible for the offense work the body on the Ravens and then turn the tables in the 4th.
If that becomes an every week thing he could become that difference maker they've lacked and really elevate the Bills roster a notch. I'm not holding my breath on that until he strings a long stretch of great play together and manages to stay healthy......but I think we are seeing some players reach the intersection of know how and can do.
Even Josh Allen looks significantly more in command of the game than a year ago this time.
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Basically the Bills offense just exhausted the Ravens defense with small gains and clock control and by the 4th quarter it became exponentially easier for the Bills WR's to get open. IMO the Bills WR corps is still the weakest part of the team. If the offense can roll up nearly 80 offensive plays and 35-40 minutes time of possession every week like they just did against the Ravens the WR have the potential to look a lot better in those last 20 or so plays. I mean, give me the front 7 equivalent to the dominant impact that Josh Allen has for these receivers and Taylor Rapp, Cole Bishop and Damar Hamlin would look like world beaters. They are closer to the norm than the WR corps.
That said.....I am bullish on Keon. I've said all along that he has the physical talent to reach Davante Adams level. He went into the offseason needing to show the focus, work ethic and want-to to be great. He seems to be doing that.
The next and most important step is exhibiting the intelligence to become a great technician so he doesn't have to be schemed open against quicker/faster CB's. That's the hardest part.
And when you have a truly great QB like Coleman has with Allen.........like Adams had with Rodgers.........that can create a ton of momentum. He should be able to see that the full commitment should yield maximum results.
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5 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
I don't really think harbaugh had any choice and I'm sure McDermott was ready for every situation
As soon as Coleman fell down.. I knew we had the game iced
The kicking team was probably ready if he didn't call a timeout to run out there but harbaugh has too Call them
If harbaugh holds on to them Allen can stop the clock with a spike at any time
The kicking team was ready after the first timeout. They were all gathered along the sideline ready to go on. Didn't help Deone Walker much as he blew his blocking assignment on the kick.......but they were ready. I would think he won't be on that team next week after giving Hamilton a free run at that kick.
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10 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:
The fact that I left Buffalo after 40 years and no longer have season tickets doesn't disqualify me from having moderate opinions in this topic.
And based on your history here, you should probably say less about others on this board.
I have nothing against stay-at-home-fans like yourself but like McDermott says.........know your role. You have no business talking sh!t about the fans who pay the Bills while you are farting into your couch in California on game days. Lead, follow or shaddup.
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1 hour ago, Sierra Foothills said:
No one is debating your right to do what you want.
Just in general, you should learn to say less about fans. Complaining about the people who have made it possible for Buffalo to have Bills seems to be a habit with you.
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1 hour ago, Mango said:
I was there. The filtering out with started with about 10 minutes left in the 4th. It was bonkers. Dare I say bordering on disrespectful.
It is 2 possessions and we have Josh Effing Allen.
The only way I can explain it is that1. The primetime game always seems to always draw a totally different crowd. Almost like people are there because of the nationally televised game, not the match up itself.
2. It is possible we have become soft in our successes. In 2010 we would have more people sticking around to boo this team off the field than we did to stick around to cheer for the comeback. I don't buy the "well it was late" narrative. I am a season ticket holder, and this exodus was something I haven't seen in quite some time and we have had primetime games. These people aren't leaving if the score was reversed (and held), the stadium would have roared the team off the field.
Anyways, for a fan base that gets so much national attention for being "die hards" this was a pretty embarrassing showing on National TV. If Miami or Jacksonville did this we would have a 96 page thread on what trash fans they are. Be better.I am the 1% of 1% of Bills fans who participate in the game..........I literally never take a play off from making as much noise as I can when the Bills are on defense or in a kick block situation...........but I disagree wholeheartedly with your take.
The reality is that it's a long season and some people already had to take off work at least part of next Thursday and Friday for the Dolphins night game.
The defense was making business decisions most of the night so you can't expect anything different from the fans who have responsibilities to be mindful of.
It's not news that the group of hardcore fans......those who do whatever it takes to be there and support the team.......would fill less than half of the stadium. It's unlikely that any NFL fan base has anymore than that.
And if you know enough, the stadium is plenty loud when it's just the die-hards left. Most of the people who left don't make any noise anyway.
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2 hours ago, Simon said:
Yep, he 100% tapped out on the 2024 season when he decided the toe sprain was going to be too much for him to play with in 2024 and possibly all the way until recently.
I didn't say he "quit".
That's where you've lied again.
Just like you probably lied about knowing he was a standout in camp last year.
Saying he just quit implies that no compelling reason was given as to why he couldn't continue.
He offered a compelling reason. But he still tapped out.
The question is if anyone in the NFL believes anything he says and if any of it is even worth answering his phone call after what he's BEEN.
A non-factor for the last 3 years.
You think teams should believe in him and give him a 4th chance or whatever he's on. You also believed him when he said he had a good camp......which wasn't true.
I guess we could debate the definition of gullible next.
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Josh Allen is the most O-Line friendly QB in the league. Even Mahomes and Lamar leave their O-lines more exposed to negative statistical outcomes.
The Bills have very good tackles.......average-ish guards.......and a solid center.
No elite performers.
Allen, a commitment to the run game and the frequent use of a 6th OL make them perform at an elite level though.
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7 hours ago, Simon said:
My mistake was misremembering that he was doing excellent work and receiving high praise from coaches in OTA's before tearing a ligament and a tendon earlier in camp than I remembered.
Your "mistake" was that he wasn't injured and instead quit, which is less a mistake than just another outright lie.
Show me where I said Claypool quit on the Bills?
He missed the entire season with an injury they called day-to-day until they abruptly IR'd him.
You've misremembered something again and this time you could have just referenced it directly from this thread.
He quit on the Bears.
He was a malcontent "at best" in Pittsburgh.
It got much worse in Chicago.
And he then ended the Dolphins season with what sure looked like a no-f#cks given effort as @GunnerBill mentioned.
This dude's career went south in the aftermath of that Steelers loss in Minnesota on November 27, 2021.
That was a LONG time ago.
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16 minutes ago, Simon said:
The reality that he was injured and didn't quit, like you falsely accused him of.
He got hurt at camp but here's what McDermott (who has zero hesitation about calling guys out when they deserve it) said about him during OTA's:
"Very impressed with Chase, really just starting with his approach," said McDermott on Tuesday. "Here's a veteran receiver, former high pick that has been on a journey, right, through the course of his, recently, his career. I applaud Chase for coming here to see where things go. He's very focused."
"You don't find that a lot around the NFL, where a player has been at a certain level and then is on a mission, right now, to reclaim what he once was in that regard. Very impressed with his day-to-day approach, true pro, high character, smart player and been a good addition to the team."
"He's working extremely hard day in and day out and embracing, not just the wide receiver role that he could play for us but also the special teams role that he could play for us,"
So unlike your false claim that he quit, the truth is that he was focused, working hard and impressing coaches before he got hurt.
Oh so you are going to avoid your false claim that he was having an "outstanding camp"? 😂
OTA's. 😂
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19 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:
It’s maybe a little unfair. The WRs are at or near the bottom. The TEs are top 10ish and the backs are top 10ish. I’d say closer to 20.
A lot of people have responded to this thread not reading the part where Barnwell explained that he adds more weight to the WR position than others.
Which is how it should be.
Of these 3 skill positions WR's are more able to impact the game individually.
That's why they are the only one's who get paid premium level pay.
And even then it's really just the boundary receivers who get that money.
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3 minutes ago, Southern McButterpants. said:
Can we please get off the Torell Troup gang up. the guy broke his fricken back for crissakes...
As with MOST player criticism, the criticism is ultimately directed at the people who selected or paid or kept playing that player when they failed etc.. He was a reach for need. Day 3 talent but they needed a body at NT so Nix very carelessly used a borderline premium pick on him. Even though the pick of an under-sized NT was likely to look incredibly stupid regardless in an NFL landscape where good NT's were signing 1 year $4M type FA deals. Unburdened by the need to be proven right, the Bills then spoke in hushed tones about how good he would have been. He became a mythical beast. Hence, the nickname associated with the draft pick.
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44 minutes ago, Simon said:
I'm not sure what any of this history lesson has to do with the fact that you falsely accused him of quitting last year when the reality was he was injured while apparently having an outstanding camp.
What reality is that?
He was literally injured early in the first morning practice of camp. He missed the rest of the day. The toe injury "reportedly" happened just a few practices later, though it likely is what happened in that first practice. He didn't have an outstanding camp. He was on the sideline nursing an injury the team listed as "day to day" for 3 weeks then he got IR'd on August 16.
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11 hours ago, Simon said:
That's not exactly a fair or accurate representation of an injured player.
Injuries most definitely aren't why he went from being dealt for a high second round pick in 2022 to being a street free agent reaching for a life-line in the span of about 15 months. Very little injury in his NFL history really.
He was a head-case in 2022 but should have lost any benefit of the doubt when he ghosted the Bears in-season in 2023. That was crazy. Typically only see something like that when a player is about to appear in a string of arrest/lawsuit stories.
The Dolphins gave him another shot and he just went thru the motions. Only months later the Bills pick him up and fans expect him to be someone entirely different.
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On 5/31/2025 at 11:12 PM, NoSaint said:
I think he’s been a fine enough nfl tight end and may get to the next level. It’s hardly vilifying him to say he belongs as a starter in the league but he hasn’t separated him from the pack in the second tier of tight ends and that hurt us last year. Hopefully it doesn’t repeat.
Again, the big issue with Dalton Kincaid was just that he was HORRENDOUS in the playoffs. Yeah he hasn't played up to expectations but his regular season play was pretty innocuous. They barely needed him in the regular season. I keep hearing the sob stories about his knee injuries.......well he must have been playing with two sprained hands in the playoffs because the issue wasn't his running it was that he couldn't catch the damn ball.
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Ed Oliver in walking boot..per Matt Parrino
in The Stadium Wall
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Banged up Bob says Ed looked his gif horse in the mouth and got a sole clap for his insolence.