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1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:
Josh Allen would be the biggest fraud ever
Literally since day one before he ever stepped onto an NFL field he said he wanted to play with one franchise forever ... Hid biggest thing is loyalty
And talks about how much he loves Buffalo... The children's hospital is named in honor of his grandmother
It's one thing if he leaves when he's 37... Leaving in his prime... He would have a smear campaign against him
And they would probably drag up every single little incident that ever happened... And Josh certainly doesn't want to go through the ringer.. and they would drag him through it because they are so petty
You're talking about the face of an entire city... Before Tom Brady the Patriots were not a proud franchise
The Buffalo Bills on the other hand... And our fan base...
Pro sports are a business.
If he turns into a Cam Newton-sized pumpkin in two years then the Bills won't be offering him another 5 year extension, will they?
So it's naive to not realize the real possibility that a star might decide to change teams to benefit his career.
I'm not a McDermott hater but even I know a significant faction of Bills fans are certain that McDermott is wasting Josh Allen's career.
Don't be surprised if the Bills don't land a top WR in this draft if the national media Bills-talk shifts from Stefon Diggs drama to talking up the idea that Allen should leave Buffalo so he can have a perceived "fair fight" with Mahomes.
Won't hurt the league's feelings any for Mahomes/Allen to turn into a SB matchup either.
He loves southern CA. He'd be awesome for the Rams.
The Niners are his boyhood team.
McVay and Shanahan have been to 4 SB's and lost 3 because they were out-gunned at QB.
Neither organization has any long term commitments at QB. Don't think they haven't pondered the possibility of landing Josh Allen. And the return for Buffalo would be a joke compared to the loss.
Makes way too much sense and in 2025 Josh Allen reaches that half-way point of his deal and has a $60M cap hit. $25M of that is a roster bonus. He has leverage to force his way out.
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One of the great things about Beane is that he lies his assoff.......but fans still think he's "usually pretty straight forward".
The key is setting expectations low.
It's not complicated..........but some GM's just can't do it.
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2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
If McDermott is gone Beane is gone too.
That used to be the case. I don't think it's that simple anymore.
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19 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:
McD is not getting fired. Not this year, next year or any years in the near future.
That's Josh Allen's decision to make..........and he and McD aren't golfing buddies.
Allen removed the chip from his shoulder and made a 180 degree turn on offseason work after he "arrived" in the 13 seconds game.
He traded Britt in for a girl who definitely AIN'T moving to Buffalo.
So he's changed his mind on matters of professional and personal import before.
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If it helps retain Josh Allen, I'm all for it.
Next offseason JA17's cap hits start getting so large and his remaining term so short that he can pretty much call his shot on where he wants to play if the Bills can't get him to sign an extension.
His home state of California.........with offensive geniuses McVay and Shanahan.........and the promise of not having to face Mahomes in the playoffs until a Super Bowl........that would have to be very enticing.
Bills need to be ALL ABOUT supporting Josh Allen. The hope of Belichick making a difference might be enough to tip the scales if they are otherwise all-in on giving Allen weapons.
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10 hours ago, Beck Water said:
What do you think of the suggested trade up, though (swap 1sts, Bills give up a 2nd next year and 2 4th round picks this draft)
Sounds reasonable.
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16 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:
Buffalo Bills
1 (17). Brian Thomas Jr., WR, LSU
2 (60). Cole Bishop, S, Utah
4 (128). Javon Baker, WR, UCF
5 (160). Beaux Limmer, G/C, Arkansas
5 (163). Nelson Ceaser III, Edge, Houston
6 (200). Tyler Davis, DT, Clemson
6 (204). Ethan Driskell, OT, Marshall
7 (248). Kimani Vidal, RB, Troyhe has Jax take Kool Aid MMcKinistry at 28 with Buffalo's original pick....and then Troy Franklin in the second.
The positional break down looks right but I'd rather see a CB than a safety. Using a second round pick on a safety in a mediocre safety draft would not be ideal from the positional standpoint. You can draft and develop safeties from all over the board and they are a dime a dozen in free agency. Be pretty dumb to take an "ok" prospect safety at 60, IMO. Two outside WR and two OL would be very logical for this draft class.
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10 hours ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:
Hill has back to back seasons of 119 catches and 1700+ with crap at QB in Miami. He is perfectly suited to the modern game and the lack of physicality in coverage. He is one of a few guys who in the 90s would have hardly stuck in the league as a a gadget guy if at all but today he is as elite as it gets at the game's second most important position. These guys show that the game has changed more than many fans care to admit IMO.
I'm not disputing that Hill isn't great now. But he wasn't great before Mahomes. Those guys were losing at home in the playoffs to the likes of Mike Mularkey and Marcus Mariotta despite having a QB who was considered a top 10-12 QB in the league at the very least. They didn't have "IT" until Mahomes arrived.
The Chiefs stuck with Hill thru a period of his life when he was liable to punch a pregnant women in the stomach or break his sons arm. He could have easily washed out of the league if he were with other less-tolerant franchises or had even just had his career disrupted by suspensions or trades earlier in his development to places he didn't fit. A LOT had to go right to get Hill to the past two seasons. Even then, there is the feeling that he could Antonio-Brown himself out of the league at any minute because he is still always a person of interest in some legal matter.
If Hill never plays another down do the pro football writer's ever vote him into the HOF? No. We can say that with certainty. 10K yards is a long way from the bar as an accumulator nowadays. And don't forget, he's not a 3 time SB winner. He left KC and the team won 2 SB's.
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38 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
I won't speak for Reid, but Kelce was averaging almost 1000yards a season w Alex Smith...Hill has two absolutely elite seasons in Miami w Tua post KC...the argument that they aren't two all time greats w/out Mahomes doesn't hold water
We will have to agree to disagree. If the Chiefs don't get to Mahomes and Reid gets fired after blowing that 18 point lead at home to Mike Mularkey and Marcus Mariotta then who knows which way the Kelce/Hill careers go. They weren't moving the needle. I mean, it's false to claim that the Chiefs were seen as loaded with playmakers before Mahomes arrived. They signed Watkins because even the Chiefs didn't think they had a WR1. Mahomes changed the perspective on Kelce, Hill and Reid. He made a lot of Chiefs players household names.
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39 minutes ago, julian said:
You’re arguing that Andy Reid isn’t an excellent HC , a HOF HC who’s light years ahead of McDermott, which was the point I made with my original response to the question about the picture, it was in fun, but nothing I said wasn’t true.
I made a factual statement, Mahomes lucked his way into 2 HOF pass catchers and a HOF offensive HC, while Allen lucked into McDermott.
I’ll stand by that.
You are serious, I can tell lol, there’s no reasoning with this take my goodness lol
if people actually believe Mahomes hasn’t benefited from a great situation compared to what Allen was blessed with.. There’s nothing else to say lol
It's not "factual"........because it wasn't "luck".
Mahomes made it possible. Without a truly great QB, Kelce and Hill are more likely to have finished in the Hall of "Good" along with a guy like Eric Moulds who has never really sniffed the HOF.
Pre-Mahomes Andy Reid was 11-13 career in the playoffs and 1-4 in conference championship games. Then he got upset WITH Mahomes in his first title game. Obviously Reid is the only HC to blow an 18 point lead or greater in the playoffs more than once. And he did it thrice!
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1 hour ago, julian said:
This dude lucked into 2 future HOF pass catchers and a HOF offensive HC
You got it backwards. They were good without Mahomes. They became great because of Mahomes. Nobody was saying HOF with regard to those guys before Mahomes got there.
Not even Andy Reid........who was one of the great choke artists in playoff history. He had blown a 28 point lead and an 18 point lead in the playoffs as Chiefs HC. (In fact, he owns 3 of the 4 biggest blown leads in Chiefs 65 year history and all were in the playoffs). His time was running out in KC before Mahomes arrived and changed the narrative.
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43 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:
I am not doubting you, and I'm positive that you know how little regard in which I hold McDermott, but why on Earth would he make a trade (for which he got little return imo) to help Reid, this in his first year here? Is he even worse than I thought?
Relationships make deals happen. I'm not sure they make that trade with any other team in the AFC if that team is picking 27th(meaning they are good). If you are going to help an AFC rival out you better be getting the best of the exchange........and even at the time it seemed like at best a discount.
But again, new regimes are also brimming with confidence in themselves and often end up getting taken to the cleaners in personnel swaps. It's the first place to look if you are a contender looking to make a one-sided deal.
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2 hours ago, FireChans said:
Meh, I agree with a lot of what you said, but the stories of most of those players’ careers just hadn’t been written yet.
Sammy was probably regarded as better WR talent than Tyreek in 2017, but today it’s not close. Ditto with Dareus and Chris Jones. And Charles Clay and Kelce.
Maybe all those dudes reach different heights if the circumstances were different but I doubt it. Sammy was a nutcase, Dareus preferred eating to playing, and Charles Clay’s knees were disintegrating before our eyes. And Sammy was unsalvageable by McVay and Reid.
I agree back then it wasn’t some gigantic talent gap though.
Point is..........the 2017 Chiefs weren't even close to being in a Super Bowl like those Dolphins. They were the 4th seed at 10-6 and had actually lost to 9-7 Buffalo at home that season. They had been nothing more than an easy-out in the playoffs each year when lead by Andy Reid.......a HC with 0 SB wins and a history of choking and poor game management. Don Shula was the antithesis of Andy Reid at that point.
But history is written by the winners.
When the Bills played the Chiefs in 2017 Kelce and Tyreek didn't do anything that day. Their stories hadn't been written yet because the outcome was very much in doubt to that point. Alex Smith.........a very good bridge QB.......just couldn't get the ball to them against a decent Bills secondary. It took an elite QB to elevate that roster. They pursued Sammy Watkins because despite good statistics........what they had in Kelce and Hill hadn't proven to be nearly enough.
Generational QB's and winning cultures DRASTICALLY change careers.
I look at guys like Aaron School and Kyle Williams with the Bills. If either are on a dynastic team their careers might have become HOF worthy. Schobel probably plays another 5 years. The losing not only created a lack of opportunity but it created a disincentive to push for individual greatness. Put Chris Jones or Tyreek Hill on those drought Bills and who knows what happens. They were "just guys" in college. Couldn't pick 2 more perfect examples.
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6 minutes ago, FireChans said:
It’s doubly painful that the Bills traded him to a team that was 10 steps ahead of the Bills from a talent standpoint at the time. Jones, Kelce and Hill, their cornerstone HoFers were all there. I think they’ve still out done us in personnel but the gap shrank considerably just by virtue of standard NFL erosion and different team building timelines.
It’s like if the Dolphins traded us Marino while we had Reed, Thurman and Bruce already on the roster as a perennial playoff team.
Even if Mahomes is in the NFC, on a team like the Saints, maybe he still stands in our way in the SB but it would feel much more like an all-time rivalry. Allen V Mahomes in the final game of the year. And with a Dennis Allen or Sean Payton and that roster, we would have the edge on personnel.
Ultimately, we birthed the generational dynasty. Much like the Jets did when they knocked out Drew Bledsoe (and they still are miserable about it.)
And this graphic is pain.
I think you are forgetting that the Dolphins were the AFC's best team already when they got Marino. And they had Shula, who was then considered possibly the greatest coach of all-time. They had just reached the SB with Strock and Woodley as their QB's.
The 2016 Chiefs were ahead of the Bills.........but by a slimmer margin than some may recall. The teams had been closely bunched talent-wise in the years prior to McBeane tearing the Bills roster down in 2017. Those Bills/Chiefs games were closely contested and often ended up separating the playoff team from the non-playoff team during Marrone/Rex years.
But yes, ultimately the Bills ended up birthing a Chiefs dynasty. Probably because McDermott felt inclined to help his buddy Andy. That could have been the result in the 1980's with Marino though too.
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21 hours ago, dave mcbride said:
It appears that despite the numbers being thrown around, no WR is getting close to $30 million per, at least yet. From Florio, who is good on this sort of issue (althoug certainly not every type of issue): https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/top-receiver-deals-definitely-arent-what-they-seem-to-be.
Yeah as I said elsewhere, there hasn't been a proven elite WR in their prime to sign a deal since Davante Adams and then Tyreek. When Jefferson hits the market, he will re-set it.
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1 hour ago, FireChans said:
Curse of the Bambino.
ARod’s journalism career is really taking off.
Actually, the curse of the Bambino wasn't a one man heist like this was. The forgotten story is that the Yankees actually stole the Red Sox brain trust and a lot of other really good players in the next few seasons and didn't turn into a dynasty in earnest until they had pretty much picked the Red Sox bones clean. It would be like if the Bills got Brady and THEN took Belichick and Scarnecchia and Gronk and a bunch of other key players. That gutting, combined with a Red Sox owner that was more interested in other things than baseball doomed the Red Sox to decades of losing.
I used to draw the comparison to the Bills passing on Marino for Kelly and then watching Marino quickly have the greatest single season of any QB ever and reach a SB while Kelly was off playing in another league altogether. They essentially gift wrapped Marino to their biggest rival by not selecting him.........so very similar. The only hope was that when Allen caught up the Bills would "out-personnel" the Chiefs the way the Bills did with the Dolphins(despite the Fish having the greatest HC of his time and the better passer). Unfortunately, the Chiefs have done a good job with personnel to stay one step ahead of the Bills the whole time.
This situation is just so unique.........having a draft pick you traded away prevent you from probably winning 2 SB's. Much of the league's fans don't see it that way because the Bills are bowing out of the playoffs early........but that's what's happened. They probably win 2 of the last 3 at least without Mahomes in the way.
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15 minutes ago, MiracleAtRich1393 said:
I'd do DK for a second rounder in a heartbeat but why would Seattle take a $36mil dead cap hit this year for a 2nd rounder? Are they looking to offload him?
The rationale is explained in the article. Basically new regime, new priorities. Those situations are often ripe for the plucking by established organizations. They all want their own guys and are brimming with confidence in their own decision making. See the Bills trading the #10 pick to the Chiefs back in 2017.........even though, on paper, they themselves were desperate for a QB. Patriots, Rams, Eagles and Jaguars also bolstered their rosters for longer playoff runs by picking from the Bills roster as well. Similar thing happened when the 2000 team got broken up when Donahoe took over.
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24 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:
People are all over the place with him. I've heard everything from a superb route runner to a terrible route runner. Can play outside but some say only slot. @GunnerBill @BADOLBILZ What's your opinion of him and what round grade do you have on him?
I see him as a 3rd rounder. But I'm about boundary receivers in this draft and I don't really see him as one of those.
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1 minute ago, FireChans said:
Yup. The days of Bills fans dreaming for a 20 year reign of terror with 10 SB appearances is long dead.
We gotta try to build up the rest of the roster to sneak one or two if Pat twists his ankle.
Yeah and one other disservice of the drought was that a lot of Bills fans didn't follow the league as closely during it and don't have a good frame of reference.
Prime Roethlisberger and Rodgers were much more physically gifted than Tom Brady. It wasn't even close. They were supposed to own the league. Goodell literally changed the way the sport is played to protect those 2 golden boys because they wouldn't conform to the Brady/Brees/Manning style of existing solely as pocket passers. And despite having the league shaped to their preference they still only won 3 combined SB's.........and one was at the expense of the other. At least Pittsburgh had the excuse of having lost 3 conference title games(2 with Ben R) to Tom Brady.
The Packers fell short of reaching SB's because they consistently failed to put enough receiving talent around Aaron Rodgers. By the time they finally decided to invest capital in WR talent, Rodgers was 39 and had one foot out the door and the other on a banana peel.
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1 hour ago, FireChans said:
Yes it was a second for Hardman and a third and 6th for Toney.
That’s why I keep asking @Alphadawg7 what strategy he thinks works. The only fool-proof strategy to be a consistent SB winner is to acquire the greatest QB of the generation and pair him with one of the greatest coaches of the generation. Then it doesn’t matter what you do.
Nothing else works.
Yeah the reality when you have a Josh Allen type instead of a Brady/Mahomes(whose primary purpose in life is to win 7-8 SB's) is that you gotta' build like you are trying to beat THE REST of the league and hope that the tournament falls in your favor.
That's how the Rams got their SB win 3 years ago. That's how the Steelers made 3 trips to the SB and won 2 during the Brady era even though the Patriots OWNED Cowher/Roethlisberger/Tomlin in the playoffs.
All the more reason to stack high end receiving talent around Allen and try to give him the longest career possible so that he can continue his passive training approach to the offseasons and still play long enough to win a SB or two even if Mahomes continues to be focused/obsessed with overtaking Brady as the GOAT.
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45 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
There were a number of folks here - IIRC I think @BADOLBILZ was one - who were salty over trading up to Cody Ford in the 2nd when DK Metcalf was still on the board.
Though, if we're playing 2019 Draft "do over", I call dibs on AJ Brown.
Yeah AJ Brown has separated from Metcalf but DK is still really good. If they could get him for a second round pick...........that would be a great get, IMO. If the draft were to go the way the mock community expects then the part of the WR group that drops way off by 60 is definitely the boundary WR. DK is a legit boundary option and he's been a better player in the playoffs than the regular season. Likely because of his physicality. Good fit for late season games in Highmark stadium, IMO.
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1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said:
I don't think the Bills dumped a big contract to sign up for another. Probably looking to get cheaper at the position.
They didn't dump Diggs because of the contract. They dumped him IN SPITE of the contract. His attitude and declining play were the top 2 factors.
I don't think they want another big contract at ANY position. But I suspect that's a fluid situation depending on the player.
I don't think guys like Aiyuk and Higgins would be appealing enough to pay $30M aav. They have never been the primary option for the good iterations of their current teams but will command contracts that might look like 80%-90% of Justin Jefferson value.
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14 hours ago, Estro said:
That coupled with cover 1s take all off season that there was no way the Bills could afford to trade or cut Diggs.
Sal Cappaccio was very much in the same boat this offseason. Dismissed any mention of the murmurs that the Bills might be open to moving off Diggs. Then post trade, he's kind of acted like he was surprised but did leave the door open to it being possible, which isn't true at all.
I have no issue with people having a take that turns out to be completely wrong, but just own up to it, and say you got it wrong. Don't try to bend what you've been saying all offseason to minimize how wrong you were
Shill Capaccio is the worst about that stuff.
14 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:To be fair i don’t think anyone was expecting the Bills to trade Diggs over the financials. People are wrong sometimes. It’s ok
What rock were you under all offseason? Everyone outside of Buffalo thought the Bills were trying to move Diggs. The Bills give the local media exactly ZERO insight into what they are doing/thinking.
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59 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt he goes to jail. Seems like a Marshawn Lynch sort of thing (although I realize there are differences in the cases), and nothing happened to him after his vehicular mishap except getting traded and subsequently becoming an NFL legend.
Perhaps, but this was a lot more brazen than what Lynch did. Lynch didn't even own up to driving he car to my knowledge and there was no video. It was a glancing blow and not a lot of other proof other than the accounts of some people who were also presumably out boozing. This was an outright wreck of cars in broad daylight that he admitted to causing with supporting video of it and him fleeing the scene and phone record of him calling the rental car company to tell them he wrecked the car as he was walking away. They know for a fact where he was at before the accident (bar) and he admitted driving. Up to 8 felony counts. There is a lot more there for the legal system to work with than the Lynch case.
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Would WR Allen Robinson be worth a look for a 1 year deal?
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Downvoted but nothing personal. He's just THAT washed. He's so washed the last time I saw him on TV he was talking about his game in the past tense. Bones on the beach washed.