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4 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:
For all those asking “why” this is the point.
If you’re not willing to do some surgery on the roster to get elite talent then you are not going to be in the running for Garrett, Crosby or anyone else that becomes available.
Because Beane’s model has been retain his own - Oliver, Milano, Knox, Jones - there isn’t cap space to re-sign the list above and simply trade draft assets for these elite players.
Beane’s drafting quality and overall build model has paid good (not great) players and left the team cap strapped.
Yeah it was telling last offseason when Bills fans were shocked that they released a bunch of CLEARLY washed up veterans. The Bills have largely avoided the kind of mass free agent losses that other long time contenders have. That surgery is the kind of thing that has to be done for the good of the franchise. Teams like the Chiefs and Ravens have been in their competitive window considerably longer and have sacrificed a lot of good players to the market in free agency or trade. That's the way it has to be.
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I envision Bruce, Kelly, Thurman, Andre and Tasker popping champagne like the 72' Dolphins next January.
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3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Kincaid or Rousseau would make sense if they are being packaged for an upgrade
Kincaid might net you a 5th in this draft. If he repeats this past season he wouldn't be worth a pick at all next year. Better off hoping he gets his sh!t together and toughens himself up.
Pretty deep class of TE's in this draft. Hopefully the Bills find one on day 3 to succeed Knox in 2026.
2 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:You do realize he was playing with a torn PCL this season?
As it turned out, Dawson Knox was exaggerating for effect in his defense of Kincaid. Like I speculated, Kincaid clearly didn't have a fully torn PCL. Just a sprain. Bills confirmed that. No surgery required. He's probably on the slopes today back home.
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Play them in the SB next year. That will cure you of that quick. Philadelphia fans are easily the worst and most arrogant(justified or not) fans in pro sports. Yes, even worse than New England sports fans.
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16 minutes ago, K D said:
James Cook if him and his brother want $20 mil per season. I don't even want them paying half that for Cook. RB is a dime a dozen. There's plenty of guys in the draft
Yeah Spotrac is projecting Cook at 4 years $40M. That's not bad value if he continues his upward trajectory(and can start playing 3rd downs) but I think these kind of contracts are the reason Beane doesn't ever have much cap room to work with. The White, Milano, Knox deals that have backfired. They have a bunch of similarly "good" players who are all coming due for extensions this offseason or they will hit free agency after 2025 so the obvious trade candidates are:
Benford
Bernard
Cook
Rousseau
Shakir
Bernard wouldn't have much value so I think you ride it out with him but I'm not inclined to extend ANY of them so with that being the case, the right trade situations make sense.
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28 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
Chiefs have a tough offseason to navigate.
Now I'm sure there are some moves they can make to push up that $11M but the Hunts have not shown a willingness to pay a lot of money up front to create cap room. I don't think they can afford to re-sign Trey Smith so they start the offseason in terrible shape on the OL. I expect that to be their focus in the draft. We thought Coleman and Bishop were disappointing, well their 2nd round pick OT Kingsley Suamataia was so bad they moved Thuney to LT just to keep him off the field.
Yeah it's an important point about the Hunt family being a little thrifty. It's not like what Belichick gradually did to his roster because I am sure Kraft would have paid for talent but Belichick just made a lot of bad choices. Veach makes good choices but I think once they started collecting Lombardi trophies they lost a little of their taste for spending. And it's more difficult there because the wealth is split among family members. Individually, Clark Hunt would be the poorest owner in the league. He has to have his family aligned on spending and that situation can be difficult.
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1 minute ago, FireChans said:
I guess I’m being biased, but I think the Eagles have players with that extra gear in the tank that the Bills don’t have.
I can’t see Ed and Greg both coming out and being dominant from start to finish against KC. Ever. I just can’t.
A guy like Jalen Carter had a ceiling that Ed and Greg don’t have.
Yeah Jalen Carter was a #1 overall worthy player. That was a disaster for other NFC contenders when he fell to the Eagles.
Put Oliver and Rousseau on either side of Carter and they will look like they found another gear(or 2).
Put Nolan Smith on the other side of Daquan Jones and I think there are complaints about Nolan Smith.
Carter is a game changer on the DL. He doesn't come off the field and he gets pressures like a high end edge rusher from the inside.
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2 minutes ago, FireChans said:
I agree and don’t agree.
i agree this eagles front is not the 2015 Broncos. This wasn’t the culmination of a dominant season.
But what I would say is this wasn’t the culmination of Howie’s strategy. He has poured picks and money into the DL for this kind of stage. That’s why he got guys like Carter and Davis high.
If you played this game a hundred times, maybe the Eagles win with DL dominance like 10-20 times. But the Bills would win far less like that, imo.
I don't really get your point though. Both teams have thrown a lot of assets at the DL.
The big difference is that the Eagles got incredibly lucky that Jalen Carter was there at pick 13. That makes everything else work.
The next biggest difference is probably that they invested more in day 3 DL than the Bills have. The Bills don't have a Milton Williams or Sweat.
But Greg Rousseau is better than the Eagles DE's. Every NFL personnel person would agree. Oliver at #8 overall is a better player and pick than Jordan Davis at #9 overall. In fact, if Davis were in the middle without Carter that might be a point of criticism for Howie.
Roseman has also done better with FA DL with guys like Hargrave and Reddick(though Bryce Huff looks like a big fail and that is the main reason why their pass rush was underwhelming this season).
So Howie has been better at his choices on the DL but they've also used first round picks up on 3 WR(Reagor, Smith, Brown) since 2020 and took a CB last year etc.. It's not like all they do is use premium assets on the DL and the Bills just haven't tried hard enough or are wasting picks on different positions. Their strategies are not that dissimilar.
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7 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:
On offense to if we're being honest. Outside of Allen, Dawkins & Brown who else on the Bills O would start over the Eagles starters? Maybe Shakir?
Nobody has a better overall roster than the Eagles. Doesn't mean the Bills aren't better in a number of starting positions. Howie Roseman is just the best personnel man in the NFL. But the gap in rosters isn't vast.
The thing is, the Eagles are not only better but also have more chips to work with to improve theirs. The Bills are a couple years further into their QB window so they have more cap issues. Josh is over $40M cap hit this year and Hurts is around $20M, for example. And Hurts is easily their biggest cap number.
They are sitting pretty and primed to add/retain pro talent with their cap situation for another year or two. And I expect them to replace guys like Sweat and Baun with cheaper players or better players(Myles Garrett?). Because that's how Howie seems to be able to do it.
So Beane would have to really have a great offseason if the goal were to match rosters with the Eagles.
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7 minutes ago, PoundingDog said:
So how did Eagles got there? Did they sign a Garrett that cost them 2 1st round picks+ to get there?
Look at their D-Line (3-4):
LDE Milton Williams 3rd round pick 73rd overall by Phily
NT Jordan Davis 1st round pick 13th overall by Phily
RDE Jalen carter 1st round pick 9th overall by Phily
WLB Nolan Smith, 1st round pick 30th overall by Phily
SLB Josh Sweat, 4th round, 130th overall by Phily.
That's how you do it when you are paying your QB.
That OR the best OL in the league........and 2 top 15 WR in the NFL........for their fairly robotic very good but non-elite QB to throw to from a pocket with no pressure.
Eagles roster is better than the Bills in a lot of areas and the pass rush isn't one of the more significant differences. WR is actually the biggest spread. 2 out of 3 are way better than the Bills options. DL, the Bills could make a couple adds and be as good or better. OL, probably just need to upgrade on Cybo to level up with them.
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10 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:
our blind squirrel has yet to find a nut. also, can’t count Fangio’s record with other teams.
Well he was the game plan advisor against the Chiefs for those Eagles in 2022 but wasn't the DC........so does that SB loss to Mahomes count?
I think Vic is like 0-5 versus Josh Allen too.
Point is.........he's not some great schematic genius DC.........not beating yours with his and his with yours.........and YES I will count his record with other teams.
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22 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said:
You make a fair point that there's always room to improve, but the Eagles' D was #2 in points allowed per game and #1 in yards.
Sacks numbers alone don't tell the whole story,
and not for nothing but those numbers you posted show more than DOUBLE the number of hurries compared to ours.(reading is hard
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I think it's fair to say we have a lot more room to improve compared to them.
Yeah the Eagles are STOUT in the middle of their DL. That is the biggest difference. Not the pass rush. The Bills vulnerability in the middle often takes the starch out of their pass rush because inviting the run leads to the ends having to be more assignment sound. And stout in the DL allows the LB's to make plays. That's why Baun could become an NFL DPOY candidate. Eagles also improved their secondary by going with 2 DB's early in the draft last year.
But it just so happened in this game that the pass rush showed up for them and now fans who don't really follow the rest of the NFL that closely think they had a fearsome foursome of pass rushers on every down. Not the case.
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12 minutes ago, Einstein said:
That was the most shocking part of last nights game. The Eagles essentially came out and said “everything the Bills did last week, we are going to do the opposite”.
Many fans are talking about the dominant Eagles d-line. They’re right. Talent plays a big part. BUT, part of the reason they looked SO dominant last night is because of the scheme the Eagles were running.
Instead of playing soft man, like we did last week, the Eagles pressed on nearly every play. This made the Chiefs old/slow (Kelce/Hopkins) and small (Hollywood/Worthy) have to fight for every yard from the second the ball was snapped.
This took away the quick passing game that Mahomes excelled with against the Bills. He HAD to hold the ball, because his receivers needed time to get open because they were being pressed at the line.
It was that combination of the Eagles talent on D-Line, AND the coaching scheme making Mahomes hold the ball.
It was the completely opposite of what we ran. And it rattled Mahomes something fierce.
On the offensive side, they hit the flats REPEATEDLY. This made the Chiefs divert attention to the boundary and opened up the middle of the field for Hurts to run when the LB’s abandoned to cover the flats.
It was a beautiful coaching job. Vic Fangio deserves major kudos. I was happy when Miami jettisoned home - he was not the problem there.
Being rested, healthy and on a neutral field played an important role as well. The Chiefs had some advantages over the Bills in that AFCCG, which could be attributed to the bye and #1 seed. They didn't have those against the Eagles. Good for Fangio though he was like 0-9 all-time versus Mahomes prior to that. Blind squirrel finally found a nut.
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I wonder if Jahmile Addae is out.
I was so glad he left the U because the Hurricanes CB's were a mess with him there(and he didn't recruit well, which matters in college).........so I wouldn't be surprised if he is blamed for not getting better results from the CB room in Buffalo too. He was supposed to fix Elam with his different than John Butler technique training.
Didn't happen.
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I got click baited into a story about an assistant trainer changing teams. Shame on me.
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Just now, FireChans said:
This, too.
in our biggest game, Greg Rousseau was getting pancaked by Kareem Hunt while last night, Josh Sweat was abusing the right side of the line.
Yeah the Chiefs had a great game plan for the Bills and the home field advantage to execute it.
They weren't as fortunate.....or prepared......last night. Level playing field, both teams healthy and rested.
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Yeah the Eagles want a better DL too.
They had just 41 sacks and 30 hurries on the season.
Versus the Bills much maligned DL which had 39 sacks and 62 hurries.
Josh Sweat and Milton Williams.....both pending free agents coming off statistically underwhelming seasons.........each just had their best games of the season in their last game and that's all that most non-Eagles fans saw of them this year. Remember they had a historically great pass rush coming into their last SB versus the Chiefs and got nada. Good OL beat good DL on neutral field.
A lot of it comes down to playing well in the last game. Just saying. Eagles weren't loving their pass rush this season either.
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9 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
I think what the Eagles are accomplishing is being undersold
Being in 2 of the last 3 SBs while your coach is apparently always in danger of getting fired and 3 of the last 8 is very impressive
They think they are a dynasty already. Vic Fangio 0-9 all time against Mahomes? No problem in their minds.
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29 minutes ago, Success said:
Hmmmmmm - not sure about that. Why would I care about a "fan" who would change their allegiance on a dime, or hop on any bandwagon as long as it was in their general region? Philly can have those kinds of fans.
Chiefs fans are incredibly annoying in their own right - especially about Josh Allen. It's really never enough for them that Mahomes is perceived as the best - they have to (in general) trash Allen and try to diminish what he has done.
Tonight is a no brainer for me. I want Philly in the most lopsided blowout imaginable.
It's not about changing allegiance on a dime it's about new fans. That's basically kids/young adults age 5-20 mostly.
Those Giants SB wins had a tangible impact on the amount of non-Bills fans that exist in the Binghamton to Bath or Syracuse to Rochester ranges. The Eagles have an impact into CNY.......where they are currently local team #3. Way ahead of the Jets.......because the Jets haven't won or been in a SB in half a century.
These areas are closer to Buffalo than to Philly or Meadowlands, they are in NYS and should be almost entirely Bills fandom.
As far as Chiefs fans being annoying? Where? Not in western/upstate NY regions. They barely exist. And they will never have the reach that teams like Pittsburgh or Dallas have. NY and northern PA is our footprint in the US. I understand that some people think the world is the internet but the reality is that the people who keep the stadium full and impact the local economies by spending on the Bills are those in the region. The less success teams like NYG and Philly have the better it is for us.
The success the Chiefs have is not tangibly relevant to the long term health of the Bills franchise. A SB loss won't devastate them.......they are still going to be back in contention for it for the foreseeable future. A terrible game by Jalen Hurts? Maybe Howie decides to shake things up.
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Yeah it's weird how some Bills fans are rooting for those assh0les out of pointless spite. It's like "yeah let the most annoying fan base in football become another obstacle to the Bills winning a SB". Very shortsighted. I want Jalen Hurts to be 0-2 in SB's. I know how that story plays out in round 3. Teams get over long time obstacles in-conference......less so after losing SB's. Those tend to become self-fulfilling.
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35 minutes ago, Billsfan4588 said:
I feel bad as a human, but it's overdue for the business. It's one thing for our special teams to not seem to ever have any special plays scripted to take advantage of the other team in specific situations/deficienies they may have in certain formations. It's another thing entirely for other teams to seemingly be able to find holes in our special team formations in key situations consistently. It was unacceptable and the time to correct it is now. This was another area we were soundly outplayed in by KC in.
Yeah McBeane are the first one's to talk about how you end your season influences decisions in the offseason. And the Chiefs clearly play better special teams and their defensive staff was a step ahead in preparation for the Bills offense in the AFCCG. That was obvious. So makes sense........try to get special teams coaching that actually makes a tangibly positive difference AND maybe they use Ryan Nielsen in conjunction with their advanced scouting to prepare game plans further ahead so they are working more on nuance/detail the week of the game and maybe can win some more downs with scheme.
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3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
We need an outside receiver not a past his best scheme specific gadget guy
Agreed but at what looks like just a $1.2M cap hit though, some teams will want one of those. FAR more tradeable contract than Kupp. If the Rams manage to get someone to take on Kupp's cap hit then just get Les Snead a gold jacket already.
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1 hour ago, Dan in Owego said:
Really like Landon Jackson out of Arkansas, he reminds me a little of JJ Watt from a body type pespective.
Yeah there are usually a handful of prospects who just get overlooked and get under drafted and then in hindsight it seems like even the reason for skepticism in the first place was ill conceived when you see teams reach for players at other positions in the same draft. They end up being draft steals. The guys like George Kittle. Or more recently and painfully for Bills pass rush fans, Maxx Crosby and Trey Hendrickson. Jackson could be one. At his best he's looked like a guy who could be drafted early in round 1 but then him never truly breaking out has created some prospect fatigue. Then you got guys like Shaq and Epenesa who just seem entrenched as a first round pick in every mock for a year and it's like "welp, somebody's gotta' take them I guess we're screwed if he's on the board". I was surprised AJ actually made it to round 2 because of that......even though he didn't look like much of a pass rusher.
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9 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:
Imagine what we'd think of Sean McD if we'd drafted Darnold and then had a revolving door of Trubiskys and Case Keenums as starting QBs ... some coaches get lucky, some don't.
Not a fair comparison though because the Bills hired Jauron after he had already proven his limitations as the HC of the Bears for 5 full seasons. McBeane would have been just another first time, 1 and done if Allen had busted. The Jauron era in Buffalo started with exasperation at the terrible hire.
Also, you had a chance to reach a SB with middling QB play back then. The Bears made it with Rex Grossman not too long after canning Jauron. Jake Delhomme lead a team to a SB appearance in that time. That's just not the case since 2020(a couple years after Mahomes/Allen/Jackson arrived then more studs followed). Too many teams have really good one's to be able to negotiate thru the playoffs without getting taken out by them. Both QB's in these SB's every year now are guys who have proven they can put up MVP numbers.
It's just unfathomable that Jauron got 9 chances(seasons) as an NFL HC.
That shouldn't have been his legacy. It should have been his career as a player. Being remembered as a disaster of a HC for 2 franchise's is on the owners and GM's that let him stay far too long at those jobs.
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Bills fans tend to find themselves rooting for the Eagles a lot
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Who could be worse? I remember my Yankees playing the Phillies in the 2009 World Series and despite the fact they the Yanks are the pinnacle of american sports success and the Phillies had largely sucked in their history they thought they were going to sweep them. Yanks beat the crap out of them and made them look like buffoons(like the Dodgers did to the Yankees this year). I mean, make no mistake, Boston fans are Buffalo's biggest sports rival. But at least Boston fans have some self-doubt when they are overmatched. Philly fans are delusional and when they don't get what they want they are beyond terrible to their teams/players.