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On 5/7/2025 at 8:55 PM, Another Fan said:
I liked this drink!
It's back. Kinda'.
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On 5/23/2025 at 9:47 AM, Jauronimo said:
Hes our new Lee Smith. Everyone will go crazy if he ever catches a ball.
Yeah people don't realize how much they've missed the unnecessary, drive stalling calls that you get when you use a 250-270# TE to run block instead of a real 320# offensive lineman.
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The mind blown "imagine if the Bills could use a TE instead of an extra OL" takes after the draft were precious.
Nobody needs a Lee Smith. If he's going to be out there he better catch the ball and make plays in the passing game too. The good news is that he seems to be getting good reviews in that regard.
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1 hour ago, folz said:
I think a rookie coming back from his first major injury to a much smaller role may have gotten in Keon's head a bit. He may have been a bit skittish from the hit. Worried about coming back too soon. A little depressed that his role had decreased, etc. But, again, he was a rookie. Give the kid time to grow, mature, learn, get more experience.
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If we are going to speculate on why Coleman struggled when he came back I'd say it's more likely that he had mentally checked out on the season during his recovery. Coleman is not a guy who was used to playing football in December and January to begin with. It's hard to be any good in the NFL unless you are all-in mentally and physically. I'm not directly equating the situations but Chase Claypool is the extreme example of how far you can fall in the NFL when you lose your competitive edge. I think Coleman's lapse was likely temporary but now that is part of his history that people will be watching for.
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13 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
The long bomb is just not his strong suit. He hits one every now and then. But more often than not, he just misses over or under. He can throw it a mile, but he's never really gotten down being able to throw it long accurately with any sort of regularity.
Luckily, he makes up for that by being an absolute beast in practically every other facet of his game. It's not dialed up often by Brady because of that fact. They're low percentage throws.
What Allen CAN do consistently that the Bills can't take advantage of with this WR corps is throw 30+ yard passes on a line. He doesn't have great touch on throws that require air under them but he can throw to areas of the field on a rope that others have to throw with arc/anticipation. Throws that are normally way out of a QB's range to make and where DB's are very vulnerable . Allen's range as a passer of low trajectory throws actually opened up the field quite a bit for Gabe Davis, who had the size to do work downfield but little else. Hopefully Coleman can become a much better version of Gabe, at least. But unless Allen can maintain his strong arm until the end, eventually he will have to find more consistency on touch/timing passes over the top to stay among the very best in the league as he ages.
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9 years ago the idea that there would become bandwagon Bills fans was a bit far-fetched.
For years on TSW two things I often talked about that needed to happen:
1) The fanbase had to become their own separate entity from the team in the way that even longer-suffering Chicago Cubs fans had under similarly difficult circumstances. Prior generations of Bills fans would vote for or against Ralph with their wallets and that was a recipe for losing your team and all the fun and entertainment we enjoyed around the 48 hours of sh!t football we were subjected to annually.
2) That they should pick a QB with their first pick EVERY year until they got one that could get a stadium built.
Both goals were achieved, even if not in the way you'd draw it up.
I am grateful that Josh Allen and the energy of Bills Mafia can bring us new fans.
I can remember going to local bars with friends to watch Bills pre-season games during the Rex era and even if the place was packed nobody else even knew the Bills were playing. The Bills territory was contracting and you didn't have to venture far outside of Buffalo to reach where the team was becoming irrelevant. The brand was that tarnished by the likes of Ralph, Jauron, Levy and Brandon.
In general, the fans that this Josh Allen era creates will be the people sustaining the franchise 10-15 years from now the same way that the kids of the Kelly/Bruce/Thomas/Reed era Bills sustained the organization thru the 2000-2017 drought years.
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On 5/22/2025 at 4:17 PM, Kirby Jackson said:
Haven’t read the whole thread or any of it so sorry if this has been discussed. What did we expect him to say about Dallas? “I liked the last place better.” Of course he is going to say what he said and we shouldn’t care at all.
As for Kaiir the person. He’s a fantastic human being. We know the family of Sophia. You’ve all probably seen the story whether you remember it or not but it’s all genuine. That guy would call her, show up there, I’m told that he still keeps in touch with the family. There was nothing fake or contrived about how he handled that situation and how that family feels about him. You see things like this when ESPN does “my wish” but this went on for what was left of her life (and still to this day). He’s a world class human being. We should all hope that our children grow up to be like him. https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/remembering-sophia-sophia-the-fierce-benintende
He, his dad and uncle are an enigmatic bunch. There are people that swear they are fantastic human beings and at the same time you have self-destructive issues with the law and coachability problems. Kaiir's self destructiveness is just a bit more 1st world than the prior generation who grew up with less. It's great that he is so kind/compassionate/caring for those less fortunate than he. You find people like that at all socio-economic levels. From the upstanding to the most criminal. That's just one aspect of their humanity.
What's applicable here is that Kaiir just didn't make the effort for his employer, his teammates or the fans in Buffalo. It's one thing to struggle to win a starting job it's another to then not even feel compelled to contribute on special teams. That caused a spiral here because they couldn't activate a backup DB who wouldn't play ST's. He alienated himself because he refused to do the dirty work and earn those opportunities to cover receivers every week. He was already financially set from that first contract and he knew he'd get another shot elsewhere because he was a first round pick so he didn't feel compelled to lower himself to the level of a guy like Ja' Marcus Ingram. Now he's basically a 6th round pick for the Cowboys so I expect him to re-adjust his expectations of himself.
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17 hours ago, Doc Brown said:
The Bills have to approve everything that HBO's allowed to put on all the episodes so it's up to them when it comes to the WR discussion.
My understanding is that teams have less control over editing of HK than you think. They have to claim that the information they want edited out creates a competitive disadvantage for them.
And for the people who point to HK training camp edition teams not having great results that season.........up until this season teams that had made the playoffs the prior season had been exempt from HK for a long time. That had helped the Bills avoid it since they had been to the playoffs 7 of the last 8 seasons. So you weren't seeing SB contenders in the TC edition. That's the primary reason why the records weren't good.
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4 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
I don't think it would be something that would be covered... except for that WGR interview. Because of that, it's definitely something that will be brought up when they're highlighting Beane and talking to him.
Actually, now that I think about it, myself and a couple others thought at the time that it felt like a planned thing by Beane as a publicity stunt. Highlighting it on the Draft Embedded made me think that further. Now I'm starting to wonder if Beane didn't know this was coming down the pipeline and did it in part bc he thought it might make good TV for Hard Knocks.
I put the likelihood that the WGR clip is shown and they discuss the discourse over WR at like 95%
I don't think Beane voluntarily put a bullseye on himself.
The WGR thing was pretty much a steam of consciousness thing where he was kind of all over the place torn between talking sh!t about how smart he is(Josh Allen 2018 draft) and making excuses why he can't pay a WR and then dropping the "I signed Joshua Palmer" flex at the end.
But yeah, the questions about the WR position will be addressed in Hard Knocks.
It would be one thing if it were questions about the safety position that Beane was yelling at local media about...........but putting some extra focus on WR also gives HBO an excuse to keep more focus on QB1.
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3 hours ago, dave mcbride said:
Good post. More importantly, we now have ~24 years of evidence, and being on Hard Knocks appears to correlate with a 99 percent plus rate of stasis/mediocrity/decline. The Bills agreeing to this is flabbergasting to me.
I think they just finally ran out of excuses and the NFL forced it on them. They've dodged the first 30 or so of these reality shows. The training camp ones, the in-season, off-season and the Netflix QB and WR docs. Maybe surprisingly exempting them from an international game this year was a concession? But either way I think they would likely have avoided it if the league gave them a choice.
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3 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:
The Bills have been a top 2-3 team for the last 6 or so years….why would you think they would be “under the radar”?
They haven't been a top 2 team since 1993 but yeah they've won the division 5 years in a row and should have also won that 6 beginning in 2019 but just plain choked against Brady in NE back when Belichick still owned McD(0-6 vs BB at that point).
I didn't say it or even quote it though so you'd have to ask @dcinmuncie exactly what they meant by "under the radar". The Jets were the betting favorite to win the AFC East last year but I never bought into that so they haven't been under the radar to me since their surprisingly dominant 2020.
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10 minutes ago, dcinmuncie said:
Maybe I’m in the minority but I love being ‘under the radar’
I LOVED national pundits counting us out last offseason
I HATED being hyped at the beginning of the 2022 season and I HATE the hype and attention we are getting now
I feel it’s bad ju ju and I hope I’m dead wrong
I don't know if you are actually in the minority or not........but I think it shows that you probably just care too much about the outside perception of the team when there really is no rational reason to. But irrational things like worrying about outside perception of the team or whether officiating is unfairly biased against your team bonds fans to the product. It's an advanced suspension of disbelief.
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3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
No its not how these things work on Hard Knocks. You clearly don't watch the show or pay attention if you do.
This will likely not be covered or just be a blurb in the show, they don't go back and review the past, the show is about training camp.
LMAO...now I really know you don't watch the show.
Again...you don't seem to grasp the concept of what Hard Knocks is.
Does seem to be youre rooting for failure though...so theres that.
I repeat, you are claiming the questions about the Bills WR corps "will likely not be covered" on Hard Knocks.
Mmmkay.
I suspect you will be backpedaling on that the same way you did when you started that thread last spring to tell us how nobody but you understood how great Khalil Shakir was going to be in 2024 and then walked it back in the fine print so that 900 yards would meet the criteria. 😂
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3 hours ago, The Red King said:
I have yet to win a marathon. So, doing what I've been doing hasn't yielded anything yet. Why not try breaking my leg first? 😆
So if a month of HBO following the Bills around in the preseason is equivalent to "breaking their legs"..........how did Mahomes survive being followed around by Netflix for an entire season and win the Super Bowl that year?
It's irrational to have such anxiety over Hard Knocks for a team with a 9th year HC and GM and 8th year QB. They are the definition of a team that should be ready for this and yet still interesting enough to be worthwhile for average NFL fans to watch.
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17 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
I get all the concerns...but can we just have one thread not fall back to the "WR's" again
Get real. It's going to be the #1 storyline at the beginning of the show. Of course it should be talked about. That's how these things work.
The Bills are normally a very low drama organization(outside of 2022 which was a drama sh!it storm).
So Brandon Beane going on the offensive with local media and then going on a tour to yuck it up with out-of-town media about it while patting himself on the back about how great a job he's done with the WR corps is good drama to build on. Not a lot of GM's put their neck out like that.
And then they open up with the Ravens, who literally exposed the Bills WR corps last fall and sent Beane scrambling to trade for Amari Cooper a month ahead of the deadline. The Ravens then later held Allen to a pathetic 127 yards passing in a home playoff game where they physically outplayed the Bills but lost because of a comedy of errors on their part..........I mean, the WR drama could come to a head right away.
The potential entertainment value beginning this season story with Hard Knocks is enormous. By the end of that 1st game Beane could look like a genius or already be getting panned nationally if they struggle to throw the ball against Baltimore for a 3rd straight time.
Everything about this season is setting up to be incredibly entertaining. Love them getting Hard Knocks this year, they have a seasoned leadership group and coaching staff and areready for it, IMO. And so glad they didn't know they were going to be on it until Beane added some spice to it with his "I signed Joshua Palmer" swagger.😂
This is going to be great.
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2 hours ago, DJB said:
Beane could have had Jefferson and Ladd. Essentially traded one away and passed on another
Brutal
Every subsequent failed attempt to get a WR1 in the draft are honest mistakes compared to passing on AJ Brown, DK Metcalf and Terry McCLaurin in the 2019 draft and choosing Cody Ford instead. They've been chasing ever since.
Beane has struggled to find an elite pass rushing DE but at least in that instance he has the excuse of having to deal with the rigidity of McDermott's scheme. The amount of DE's who check all of the boxes to satisfy the wants of the McDefense are limited. If you insist on 6'6" 270 pound DE's with 34" arms you gotta' be willing to keep throwing numbers at it and take on day 3 risks like they did in Carolina with Greg Hardy. And perhaps McDermott hasn't been willing to allow Beane to go that far. But you aren't getting an Aidan Hutchinson with the 28th pick.
Beane has no such excuse at WR. Those are unmitigated whiffs.
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The Elam's were all knuckleheads at his age. Whether he was different than his dad/uncle was always the biggest question to me. He isn't. I expect he will get it together eventually. He has plenty of talent so he will get enough shots til it sticks. It's not a direct comparison but Rasul Douglas was terrible until he was suddenly really good.
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1 hour ago, Rigotz said:
Kincaid played one season of high school football. He caught one pass in 2020, then he played two years of college ball before coming to the Bills. Expecting him to be "plug and play" at the position that typically requires the most ramp up time is ridiculous.
On the Edmunds note, you say he didn't have an OBVIOUS replacement. How about Terrel Bernard, who was drafted by the Bills in the 3rd round of 2022 despite Edmunds being on the roster? He played behind Edmunds an entire year, then became a great starter immediately in 2023 the moment Edmunds left. Is that not an obvious replacement?
I'm opting out on the rest of this thread. Enjoy.
Good because I am already sick of you moving the goal post with your bad arguments. You were mad that I said the trade-up for Kincaid hasn't proven worth it to this point.........and then you are saying Beane made a "ridiculous" evaluation plugging him in immediately and "expecting" results because in your eyes he was totally unprepared for the NFL. The fans didn't give him all that playing time and targets. The team did. I mean, pick a lane for fuxake.😂
You don't pick a non-premium position like TE in round 1 and then hope he starts playing like a first rounder in year 3 or 4.
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2 hours ago, Rigotz said:
It is so ridiculous that after one of the best rookie seasons at Tight End ever, people are completely out on Dalton Kincaid in year 2.
Saying Edmund is a failed Day 1 pick is equally ridiculous. He signed a massive contract in the offseason and has experienced plenty of success in the NFL. He's a failure by Beane because we didn't sign him to that overpaid contract? No.
Here are some noteworthy Day 2 picks the last 4 years: O'Cyrus Torrence, Dorian Williams, James Cook, Terrel Bernard, Spencer Brown.
I don't know where this mentality started of criticizing Beane at every juncture, but he's a good GM. Be glad he's with the organization.
Kincaid was thrown a lot of passes as a rookie but had very little impact. You often see teams force playing time on rookies they expected a lot of. But no receiver that begins at the LOS and had only a 9.2 yard per catch number nowadays, did anything remotely historic that season. That was sort of like the regular season Kelce had last year that people said was terrible and called him washed up. He has an age excuse. Kincaid was 25. That's PRIME age. He was supposed to be plug and play and has turned into at least a 3 year project. And the concept of a split-only TE like Kincaid really was as a rookie is fairly new so comparing his rookie season production to guys even 10 years ago is what is ridiculous. It's like comparing passing yardage and TD/INT ratio to 30-40 years ago.
Edmunds was a failed trade up. He's an adequate first round pick but they also dealt a valuable second round pick to move up for him and he wasn't worth a second contract to the team. If you aren't deemed market worthy and they don't have an OBVIOUS replacement for you(which was the case when Edmunds left)....... then you probably weren't worth a first and second round pick. And we know why they didn't want to extend him. He lacks the instincts for the position that the far lesser size/speed athlete Bernard has in abundance. Yet Bernard got extended. EARLY. The Bills had Edmunds play out his 5 year deal and let a 24 year old veteran go for a reason. They even ate a big $11M+ cap hit in his option year to avoid extending him.
As for noteworthy day 2 picks? What's your point? I never said he hasn't made some good day 2 picks. You are just making up a rebuttal to an argument that wasn't made.
My point is simple........his itchy trade-up finger on day 1 and 2 has not yielded results they couldn't have expected by sticking and picking. I mean do you not think Fred Warner is better than Edmunds? Is LaPorta not as good as Kincaid? Metcalf/AJBrown/McLaurin all not better than frickin' Cody Ford? These were all worthwhile options at the time that they could have had without trade ups.
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6 hours ago, noacls17 said:
Assaulting women then a video with Kelly's face on it, how fitting.
Yeah those Super Bowl Bills were no angels but their off field transgressions didn't prevent them from playing well(except for Super Bowls, of course). Kelly was accused of violence against women but was never charged like idiot Eric Moulds though. He'd probably get attempted murder for what he was accused of nowadays. Speaking of those lenient times, I have to laugh when I see the people with Cornelius Bennett handles. Most are or were totally unaware that he did actual time in WNY for sexual assault(forced anal sex, specifically).
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2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
Moved up to draft Edmunds over him. Warner and Milano next to each other... What could have been...
Yep traded up for Allen and then Edmunds was the first of Beane's long string of, so far, failed Day 1 and 2 trade-ups.
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On 5/16/2025 at 12:50 PM, noacls17 said:
Maybe a has been Kelly and never was Collins had something to do with that.
It didn't. Moulds was just an idiot entering the NFL. After he was drafted reports came out that he was off a lot of teams draft boards. And though you would think it was for his propensity for assaulting women, it was actually because he was an idiot on the field. At the 3:19:30 mark you see Moulds catch a ball a couple feet from the sideline and stupidly stay in bounds and cost the Bills a timeout as the Bills were driving down 22-16 in the closing moments. He was unplayably stupid.
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5 minutes ago, Capco said:
I tend to agree with you philosophically. But on the flip side, didn't Andre Reed play mostly out of the slot? Production is production, regardless of where it comes from, right?
McConkey probably isn't a starting NFL player back in Reed's prime. It took defense's getting smaller, in response to running backs like Thurman Thomas destroying LB's in coverage, for the league to take the next step and go to smaller slot-only receivers. The slot receiver of today is the 3rd down back of Reed's era.
Reed could play inside or out because he was a big, physical receiver even by todays standards and the outside CB's of his day tended to be smaller and less athletic than they are now. That's a whole "what happened to all the athletes who used to play RB" evolution story, but in short, Reed is not really an apples-apples comp.
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8 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
It isn't that he can't improve. It's that in round 1 (I know Keon was technically #33 but you take the point) you generally want high floor, high ceiling. By the end of the round those guys, inevitably, have gone so your choice is generally high floor, lower ceiling or low floor, high ceiling. Essnetially do you prefer the safe pick of swing for the fences.
The problem with Keon is he is relatively low floor and lower ceiling. The way he has struggled so far in the pros is exactly the way those of us who didn't love him as a prospect thought he'd struggle. And the ways he has had success - screens and slants near the line of scrimmage 'ball in hand' and yards after catch - are the ways we thought he was most likely to succeed. When I first said as far ago as February last year that I thought he was a big slot at the next level I got a ton of pushback. Matt Harmon said the exact same thing 3 weeks later. So far the evidence supports our opinion.
I actually think Coleman's ceiling is high but not easily attainable.
He has a lot of traits that remind me of Davante Adams. Adams has arguably ended up becoming the best WR to come out of that gifted 2014 class. Mike Evans is great and unbelievably consistent but he was never the best WR in the game like Adams was for several years in his prime. Once Adams caught up with Evans in 2017 he has been the better player and their career numbers are pretty close despite Adams struggling early due to lacking any one incredible natural trait to allow him to win matchups immediately as a pro.
Coleman has that basketball level athleticism with size that you don't see a lot of in the NFL. That should allow him to develop the nuanced aspects of the position. He will have to work like Adams did(and prove as smart as Adams) to get that polished and that's probably not "likely" but he seems to be a good character guy so it's possible. Nothing I saw in 2024 has changed my mind despite his struggles. I was actually a bit surprised by the success he did have.
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57 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:
Ladd is a player who can play anywhere at any time. We need good WRs. Ladd should have the pick.
By the way Ladd is the same height as Diggs and faster.
Ladd is a slot receiver. Shakir is the same height as and faster than Diggs too(if just using the 40 yard testing). We heard a lot of bullsh!t about how Shakir could play outside and Diggs comps from irrational fans. But Diggs had longer arms and 10" hands that allowed him do more on the boundary in his prime. Diggs aged out of the boundary a couple seasons ago but the Bills didn't have anyone else to put out there.
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Keon Coleman success by route - Not pretty
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I think we already touched on this topic earlier in the thread but he Bills were not 9th in passing yardage.
They were 17th.
The figures you are referencing are "net" passing yards..........which subtracts sack yardage.
If you are historically great/lucky at not turning the ball over and your QB never gets sacked that's going to greatly benefit your "net" numbers.
But if you are judging the quality of talent in the passing game........remember this........the league DOES NOT subtract sack yardage from QB's individual passing yardage(or the WR's, naturally).
@Paup 1995MVP's reaction to your post reflects how misleading including sack data is. By no means was the Bills 2024 passing game an aerial circus.