starrymessenger

I hear you but don't forget that the Chiefs had a good O-line (we got their centre) and the Rams spent two years going from maybe having the worst to maybe having the best O- line in the whole league before things started to come together for them on offence. My only regret this year is that we couldn't get both Ford and Risner (but that is a pipe dream, overkill and wasn't going to happen anyway). As others have said WR will probably be at the top of our agenda in 2020 and there will be some good ones available. Let's make sure we put the horse before the cart. In the meantime if we are lucky Zay will make a big leap and maybe Williams will be that big bodied physical receiver that can play inside and out that we so badly need. But no doubt WR (and I would add RB even after Devin) is a pressing need going forward.

I have by no means given up on Zay. It's not unusual for WRs to take a few years to transition. But I'm not sure that a competent Zay Jones would be what this WR corps needs in terms of receiver type. JuJu was that guy. Good chance AJ Brown was too. I'm hoping Duke Williams is a player. That's all we've got right now.

I think DK has a chance to be good and I'm happy for him that he landed where he did. He may in time turn into something special. But even among developmental prospects he really didn't deserve to be the first one off the board - that was Mecole Hardman, a little guy. Hollywood, AJ and Harry were all better picks. I liked Harry but IMO AJ Brown was the guy I would have taken as most versatile and most likely to really lift our whole WR group, but I too was all for O-line since Ford or Risner were there in the second.

Butler may be good...in a couple of years. AJ Brown will be good ...immediately. You cant always get everything you want, even if you need it, so I'm not second guessing the Bills braintrust, not at all. But for my money AJ Brown was the one and only guy in this draft who might have transformed the Bill's WR corps, making everybody better, maybe a lot better. His value to the Bills was exponential because of the kind of player he is. Duke Williams better be good because IMO this group could really use a sure handed, versatile physically imposing WR who you could mistake for an RB after he catches the ball. Small or finesse UDFA receivers are not in the mould that's likely to help you in that way, even on the off chance that one of them is actually exceptional enuf to eventually make the roster.

Yeah I've often wondered how they worked together, being so different (or at least seeming so to me. Gettleman seems incompetent. I have a good friend in NYC whose a die hard life long fan. Feel bad for him.

Finns will trade him for a 4th next year after they draft Tua. The football gods are sadistic and they hate this kid. Me I'm glad he's in the AFCE with Allen and Darnold. Makes for more interest and fun. I think he's got a chance to be pretty good in the right O.

You have a point - as long as he can max out on his potential. He was a monster last year and is maybe a first round talent but he had a lousy combine and dropped for a reason, including bad interviews. Hardly the same prospect as Allen. We will see what Gregg will be able to do with him. And keep him clear of Mr Dounut.

Yeah that's what Greggo does but I thought they had opted to continue with their 3/4 base defence. Maybe I'm not up to date.

So he reaches on his first pick for a player he says needs to sit behind Eli for three years. Got it. Glad he's not our GM.

Not sure why the Jets are above average. Sure they maybe got the best player in the draft, or close to, but I discount that because he's not a great scheme fit for them. L. Williams played as a 3/4 DE next to Wilk and Richardson and it didn't go very well. The two Williams together would make more sense in a 4/3. They really needed an edge rusher. Have to think Allen would have been a better pick for them.

Thought he was doing it.

Judging from the highlights this is not a throw away pick. Kid has some ability.

I don't know if Duke Williams makes the roster but if he doesn't he can't complain. The table has been set for him assuming no further adds to a WR corps that can really use a big sure handed physical receiver.

Yes. And Neal too is a very big hitter.

I did. If not I take it back.

He was a WR before he was a QB before he was a TE. From what little we get to see he looks to have soft hands that he actually uses to catch the ball. Don't know where people are seeing a stiff player. Looks to me to be pretty fluid and flexible.

No reason at all except he only caught 6 passes all of last year. Maybe he just wasn't asked to do it idk. But sure if he could do that and if he could flat out fly (which he can't) he'd be D. Sproles and I'd be more than fine with that. I don't hate the pick. Kid looks to me like a good football player. I do wonder if he was the BPA when they picked him tho. But the Bills know more than me.

Yeah no kidding. He's supposed to be a mature, level headed guy. He's a professional now, not a college kid, and he needs to act like it. Maybe Lorax or Frank Gore should kick his a$$.

This is not a great WR draft IMO (or RBs either for that matter). Not to say terrible, some guys project as # 2s, #3s but no clear #1 prospects. Thing is, except for AJ Brown (who I like a lot), they are all probably years away from being consistent and productive players assuming they ever get there ( with possible exception for guys drafted into perfect schemes like Isabella in Zona). Looks to me that the Bills figured out a long time ago that they were not prioritizing that position in the draft. They went with proven quality NFL receivers in FA instead to complement the best of what they already have on the roster.

Some of the reporting on Ford is contradictory. Some people say he's a road grader. Maybe they see a huge guy and figure he's a mauler (even if he's not) and therefore project him to guard. Others say his actual skill set is pass pro which maybe bodes well in a pass happy league. Somebody doesn't have it right here. Just goes to show that half the "experts" really don't know what they are talking about. Best to watch the tape and make up your own mind. I haven't watched all the tape, just highlight reel stuff and his Alabama game so I don't know what I'm talking about either but from what little I've seen he looks like he can run block (though not a road grader) and is better as a pass blocker (consistently snuffed out # 99 in the championship game). Some question around the quickness of his first lateral step so maybe some vulnerability to very quick outside speed rushers. He looks athletic for a big guy who can get to and be effective at the second level. Hes a good prospect ar RT IMO who will benefit from being coached up (like all of these guys). He seems to appreciate the importance of coaching (and therefore of learning) and he really likes our O-line coach who he knows and who obviously knows and likes him.

Sports hernia. Fully recovered by pro day. Hence 5.7 and 5.1.

Knox has everything you would look for in a TE prospect in terms of both measurables and intangibles. Prototypical size, elite athleticism, a really good head on his shoulders (honour roll, double major), demonstrated ability as a receiver and blocker. The only thing he doesn't have is the production he would have had if he played at Iowa. He's only been a TE for 2 years but has shown that he is coachable - he made strides as a blocker last year, which suggests that he is capable of filling out the gaps in his game and grow into the position. Nothing not to like about this pick. You are rolling the dice on all but a few prospects. Knox is a good bet.

He'll be as good as his O-line. You can see the difference between his Oklahoma tape and where his O-line is more effective against lesser competition. Only thing that bothers me is the tread on his tires and the fact that he's useless in the passing game. Re tread maybe he will take after Frank Gore. Re receiving out of the backfield we've got Yeldon. This is going to be situational backfield by committee. I think maybe Daboll makes good use of him. Measurables aren't there but the kid looks like a gamer and a football player.

What you say makes sense to me. I'm happy with either one, but would like to know the basis for the Bill's decision. They will never get into it tho.

Me happy. He's our RT.