joey greco

and that's why you can't run with EJ playing qb. can't block 10 with 7

they can't run the god damned ball with EJ in there, did you see the last series? Literally 10 in the box

c'mon excuse makers let's hear it

Sorry that's not blocking. Left side was overloaded and that's on the qb to see and react to.

what makes you think he has the talent to be a backup? there's nothing in evidence other than his draft position to support that idea.

what the !@#$ is that retard doing

TE wide open in the end zone, throw ball into stands. The EJ Manuel method

Jeezus how long is McKelvin out for

Because in general it hasn't been an issue. Also, short passes to playmakers who can RAC, with a tight end who can work the seams is the patriots offense. Don't have to throw well deep to run that way.

I don't know how a person could be so vociferously against another Orton and pro-EJ. At this point, Ortonish is EJ's ceiling. At best he'll become a manager, with apparently little fire and a slow-moving game mind. I don't think Rex loves EJ, but I wouldn't be surprised if the snaps were part of a plot to see how he'd react. I think Rex wants a leader with some fire-could be he wanted to see if EJ would step up and let the center have it or not. I think it was Urbik? He's not THAT bad on shotgun snaps. And in terms of that throw-that's a wide open reciever in the middle of the field without anyone pressuring. Anybody that can throw a football 40 yards could make it, and certainly any qb in camp could once in a while. What matters is consistency, and until it happens again doesn't mean much.

So there were 3 passes all night that hit the ground that weren't drops. Receivers were basically quite wide open after the second quarter. There was little if any pressure to force a ball into tight coverage or make quick decisions all night, for any of them. You didn't learn too much from that game, except that none of the three qb's disqualified themselves due to this game. If we're going to give EJ the drops he had, you need to give them to Taylor as well. So 6 of 8 and with at least one TD. And much more dynamic and threatening. I don't know how anyone could watch that game and not think that Taylor had the best performance. It wasn't even close. Moved the offense, dictated the game and made the right decisions. And no, disqualifying his performance based on it being second teams while not doing the same for EJ vs. third and fourth string is not reasonable. There's a massive dropoff between second teams (guys who will play NFL football for the most part) and the third and fourth team scrubs, most of whom will be looking for work next month. He may be able to do it against better competition, but it's reasonable to want to see it happen when he has to make quicker decisions and faces regular pressure (and the same goes for the other 2 as well). Jeff Tuel looked fantastic in early preseason games against scrubs as well.

lol

"well, that's not good." Never change, Steve.

This is not exactly a great thing, but it is a good thing. Lots of film and examples for the coaching staff to work with. Give them a couple weeks to work and see what he looks like.

eh, first one he just turned his head the wrong way, a mechanical thing that's easy to fix. second one...just got beat. looks like a young corner, most get beat before they get better.

LOL, "adequate qb play" *names 2 of the top 6 qb's in the league. Quality post. Seattle does run a lot. Specifically their qb. That's not ground and pound, most of those runs are dropbacks. Also, winning teams run a lot in the second half. Pete Carroll clearly believes that his qb must be a playmaker, not a caretaker, to have success. Dallas still had one of the best qb's in the league to go with the running game. There is no success in the NFL unless your qb has the ability to regularly make big plays.

We're going to get garbage for a head coach because our moron of a gm is insisting that their fate be tied to the garbage known irl as EJ Manuel. No one who has other options will take the job if that is the condition.

Sweet, double down on a bad bet. People B word about Marrone coaching the last game for his own record, but Whaley is allowed to follow up this pathetic waste of 3 first round draft picks based on a terrible decision to draft Manuel, and now is going to base the head coach decision around that failure. If this is true Whaley should be fired tomorrow. Manuel is a never was, never will be, and everyone outside this idiot and a small portion of the Bills fanbase can see that.

What was the timeline on that blowup at the end of preseason? Was it right after they signed that qb coach type (Palmer maybe?) and before Orton? Was Marrone looking for somebody other than EJ all along? Maybe give me EJ or that disaster of an offensive line, but not both, leading to the late signing of Orton? Also makes sense of the sudden decision to leave by Marrone. Sees himself reliving the battles over the bust with Whaley that they had over the last year, and another refusal to bring in a decent qb.

both offensive pi's were bull ****

If it's the show I was listening to, they were actually more ripping on Belichek for how he treats the media. Rodak asked what the hosts said was a legit question about Revis playing more man, and Beli paused for 12 seconds before giving a non-answer. He had done the same thing to one of the co-hosts of the show a couple weeks ago so they were replaying that and timing the length of the pauses.

Oh ffs how can you see this performance and be wondering what the problem with the offense is?

Here's your word for the day Marky: inference Once you've looked that up, you'll realize that AJ has made a rational inference about EJ Manuel's prospects, not a psychic prediction.

Where did this myth come from. Check out his situational stats on NFL.com http://www.nfl.com/player/ejmanuel/2539228/situationalstats-his first and second half stats are mirror images of each other in terms of completion %, rating, and td:int ratio. There's more attempts in the second half due to the Bills being behind. In fact, his best statistical quarter is the second (mostly inflated due to 2 min. drill/defenses defending against the long pass-again clear in the situational stats). There is no evidence that EJ is a second half qb.

This is an hilarious argument. "The fallout slaughtering of the Colts in this trade" resulted in 11 wins for the Colts and how many for the Bills? I like Jerry Hughes, but the Colts didn't screw up their first round qb choice and the Bills did. In the big picture the Hughes trade is not a real difference maker-it's not significant in the overall success of either team. That is why their GM doesn't get slaughtered-they have back to back 11 win playoff seasons.That achievement is not even in sight for the Bills' GM.