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Because if Kittle hits the open market in 2021 after posting another strong season some other team will easily offer an elite TE close to 20 million per-year. Travis Kelce being underpaid and there not being another elite TE on the market doesn't deflate Kittle's market. Kittle is a much better TE than Hooper who got 10 million aav. So if I am Lynch I offer about 15 million as my offer as a means to get Kittle under his market value. I don't offer 18+ million because that's his best range, but 15ish million offers him security and you a discount.

Kittle didn't have prime Tom Brady throwing to him like Gronk did. Jimmy G was hurt in 2018 when he put up monster numbers and even in 2019 I wouldn't exactly call Jimmy G a world beater and Kittle put up an elite season. So the TD numbers are a bit circumstantial and not relevant to his ability. Toss in that like Gronk Kittle is dam good blocker and I think Kittle has solidified himself as an elite TE these past two seasons (and he wasn't too shabby for a rookie.) I think if Kittle wants a deal bordering on 20 million per-season with a hefty guarantee I think he has to put up another very good to great season and fully leverage his status. But the 49ers should be willing to offer a deal above 15 million if Kittle doesn't want to take the injury risk. So while I get Lynch waiting if Kittle won't accept a deal closer to 15 million than 20 million but Lynch should be willing to offer a max extension around the 15 million aav range. Let Kittle decide his level of risk but certainly show they are willing to take care of him he just won't get all that he wants if he takes the sure thing early.

I agree it also has helped that the insane value the Bills got in 2019 and 2020 have come at positions of need (I will exclude the 2018 draft since almost every position was a position of need.) The Bills needed to get younger along the D-line the past two years and AJ and Oliver help the team get younger there, the team also had a need for a between the tackles runner and a tackle and those players fell into their lap at great values.

And in 2018 and 2017 the Superbowl featured high end tight ends. Gronkowski in 2018 and Gronkowski and Ertz 2017. It's a position that presents a huge advantage.

I am just impressed about the insane value the Bills got in rounds 2 and 3. AJ to me was/is a legit late 1st early 2nd round talent found towards the back end of the second round. Moss to me was a early 3rd round talent and we got good value getting him late in the round. The rest of the draft was solid value as well but those first two picks get the team good impact players both long and short term.

Kittle is a beast and deserves WR1 caliber money. He is a great run blocker and an elite level receiving threat, considering how hard it is to find an elite TE I think top TE"s should be paid WR1 or better money. I am talking about top 2-3 TE's guys like Kelce and Kittle who are game changers and can block. They add such a great dynamic to any offense. There is a huge gap between even a very good TE like Hooper and an elite TE like Kelce and Kittle.

I am pretty sure the WHO and CDC aren't giving guidance for rioting.

Any list without Kyle at the top is disqualified. Kyle was an All -Pro or close player from 2010 to 2014 and was still a pro-bowl caliber player from 2015 to 2016 and a valuable starter in his last two seasons from 2017 to 2018. That's 9 seasons of production ranging from Great to highly above average at a quality position. No one else on that list comes close.

The dichotomy is either the player gets the money or the owner.

If hypothetically they were both on the same or similar contract you could make a decent argument Dak would be the better player short term option and lower floor player long term for the Bill's. However Josh plus about 75 or so million in cap space over the next 3 seasons is a better deal than Dak. First off yes Josh could easily regress and be a not so hot property after 2020. You are taking on a lot of risk with Josh and Dak has shown to be a mid level or better QB over the past 4 seasons. BUT Josh is a player with a higher ceiling. Dak in my opinion will be a good QB but never an elite one and seems to want that elite money. Josh also comes with about 70 million in cap space compared to Dak over the remainder of his rookie deal. Dak with a team making cuts to the quality of the roster around him might not be better than Josh with an exceptional roster around him even if Josh is only an above average QB. This is just nonsense the Bill's fortunes are going to ride it die with Josh long term.

I think Bell is a mercenary for sure. He took the Jets offer because it was the biggest offer. But I think the timing of this season makes me think he will at least have a good season (1k rushing and 500 reviving yards. over 4 yards a carry.) Better O-line in front of him, he is only 28 and he has only a fairly small amount of guaranteed money after this season (plenty of motivation to get that back end of his deal.)

Bell's rushing numbers plummeted but his receptions were still solid. I think if the Jets can field a mid-levelish unit in front of Bell he should have a good season maybe not as great as he did with the Steelers but he should improve, he is only 28 and coming into a season where I think he wants to earn the back part of his contract.

Camp body most likely

The Jets O-line rebuild reminds me a lot of what the Bills did last off-season, it wasn't a lot of flashy big moves but it was a quantity effort. The two big starting caliber pieces acquired are McGovern who should anchor their center position and Becton their first round pick. Reminds me of the Bills making a big splash to sign Mitch and drafting Ford early. The Jets also made some smart lesser heralded moves like adding Van Rotten (Reminds me of the Feliciano and Spain) and Alex Lewis (Reminds me of the Spence Long addition solid depth) and another decent sized splash in Fant. McGovern, Fant, Becton, and Van Rotten should all start for the Jets at an average or better level (Or at worst 1 or 2 are slightly below average.) Lewis should also provide some depth. I suspect the Jets will be on the market to add another depth piece or two in either late stage free agency or camp trades. As to the OP's worries, I wouldn't exactly call this group a bunch of maulers. I like McGovern as a good top 10 center and Becton could come in and anchor a tackle position at a good level. But this is an average O-line talent wise and one that will need time to gel. I wouldn't call last year's Bills O-line (a unit with 5 players who never played before) a world beating unit. Even the Bills O-line last year was stacked with more depth and better front line talent than the Jets O-line as it currently stands. The Jets O-line won't likely be a top 10 O-line as chemistry alone would dictate that but they will be significantly improved. Still I wouldn't worry about how our D-line is going to hold up against them.

The Bills brass likes Murphy, 2 years ago they made him their big free agency signing (Well him and Star.) He has 9 sacks in two seasons and isn't a stout run defender. I have no clue with they love him but I think the staff likes him. He isn't a bad player but certainly is overpaid for what he is (an above average rotational DE.) If the Bills are going to bring in someone to compete with Murphy it will either be Johnson or a lesser heralded player in camp. I just don't see them spending any even mid-level money on a free agent just to compete with Murphy. AJ brought youth and depth to the position via the draft and I don't see them rushing to replace a player they likely view as their 4th DE esp given they have a player in Johnson who is young and can compete in camp.

The mental aspect is another reason why often times the best place-kickers aren't the guys drafted high (relative to a place kicker.) Justin Tucker is the best kicker in the league and he was undrafted. Many of the other top kickers in the league are undrafted. Yes some top kickers are mid round or higher picks (Gostkowski was a 4th round pick) but it is such a crap shoot. Typically I don't mind a team taking a chance on a kicker in round 6 or 7 like the Bills did and Haush is a decent proven veteran option.

Bates can play all 5 positions which makes for great in game use as a backup. I think he is likely to make the roster unless there is an unexpected camp over performer.

Rewatching that game and the Ravens won the game by being better along the line of scrimmage. The Raven's blitzing schemes confused the Bills o-line and led to Josh being constantly under pressure while the Ravens offensive line wore down the Bills D-line slowly and efficiently. The Bills played a disciplined game and particularly on defense held the team in there. But without better O-line play and more help in the receiving game things wouldn't have been any better regardless of offensive scheme.

The Browns talent level was good but their coaching was poor. Ultimately the Bills ran into a bad matchup on the road and lost a close game. I think had the game been in Buffalo the team would have pulled it out. In games this tight being away could make the difference. The Bills didn't come out flat (like they did in the Philly game) but they didn't come out sharpe either. And against a decent team away that's going to result in a tight game and ultimately the team lost on a kick.

File that under duh. The draft is mostly about coaching communicating to the scouting department what they look for to fit into their system and the scouting department communicating to the coaching staffs the fit of players in the system and their character concerns if any. Even then things are always a crap shoot.

Tre is a must keep, he is an elite part of an elite defense. If Josh can improve he will also be a key component like any QB. Looking at the rest of the 2017 and 2018 draft classes you have 4 other players who could be up for extension. Dawkins, Milano, Edumonds, and possibly H.Phillips (And possibly T.Johnson and Levi Wallace too but factoring out them for now.) Of those four I would say Dawkins and Edumonds are the top two to keep BUT given that Milano is up before Edumonds I think you are better off keeping Dawkins and Milano on reasonable deals (not overpays but market value) to try and maximize the window to win in 2021 and 2022 when Edumonds will still be on the last year of his rookie deal and 5th year option. Then again I could easily see Beane retaining all critical talent on market level deals since as extensions for Tre, Dawkins and Milano are doable as the cap is not a crunch in 2021. Then as Edumonds, H.Phillips, Allen and others become free agents down the line in 2022 the Bills veteran contracts on the team expire or are easy to get out of. Poyer, Brown, Beasley, Star, Hughes, Mitch, Butler, and several others expire or could be cut after 2021 to make room for extensions. Yes some draft picks will have to be used to replace talent and they might have to let 1-2 players walk after their rookie deals but I think overall the Bills will be able to keep most if not all of their free agents.

Dallas and NE are massively overrated.

Madden was a lot better when they had competition. I remember Madden 05 was a very good game going up against 2k5. Sadly once the competition ran dry EA got lazy.

I thought Feliciano was mostly solid last season. His play to me ranged from average to good last season. The metrics support that. He gave up 4 sacks which for the 950 snaps he played is decent, he took 5 penalties which again is decent, and his run blocking was rated good while his pressure stats were mid level. I think another year of chemistry and communication in the scheme will only help him.

Ford's play improved significantly after Ty got hurt and Feliciano's play ranged from average to good all season. I think the intent is to have all 5 starters come back and form a sense of continuity. I think McBeane's philosophy is to emulate the late 2000's early 2010's Giants. By having a line with some elite talent but is mainly bolstered by not having any weak links and an extreme sense of continuity. I think if Ford improved the Bill's will have an oline with no below average starters who have played together for a full season.