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Thanks for all the info Dave. Just some thoughts and maybe you can give me the numbers: - if your defense has poor field position you're going to give up few yards per scoring drive because the opposing team has less distance to go to score. - plays per drive can also be dependent on starting position for the opposing offense (less field means less plays generally) I think the most telling stats would be points per drive and avg start position. If you rank high in pts per drive and rank low on avg start position then i think thats pretty telling bc your defense is being put in a tough spot and ur still doing a good job. What have those numbers been throughout the years since 2012?

I haven't looked into - but if an opposing offense has great field position , then wouldn't you automatically rank high in yds/drive by default? Aren't "drive start position" and "yards per drive" sort of inversely correlated to each other? If an offense starts on their 40yd line and scores, that scoring drive is going to be much shorter. I don't think you can automatically make a leap and say that points wouldn't have been scored if they started on their own 25yd line. You can make an assumption that it would be harder for the opposing team to score, but not conclusively. The points per drive number is relevant I'd say.

I'm sorry but I watched that 2013 defense. We all watched that 2013 defense. They weren't 4th overall in anything.

With the same core group of defensive players (KW, MW, MD, Gilmore, McKelvin and Hughes since 2013) this defense in the last 4 years has ranked in pts/game: 2012: 26th (27.2pts/g) 2013: 23rd (24.2pts/g) 2014: 4th (18.1pts/g) 2015: 15th (22.4 pts/g) How about the following hypothesis: 2014 was an outlier where everything went right and the stars aligned and two players who were playing for contracts had monster years: Hughes and MD.

Great article; hadn't read it.

This off-season is turning into the following: Toilet clogged at One Bills drive. %##$&& Rex! Secretary orders wrong ink cartridge model. *#%*£¥ Rex!!!! Gas prices go up. $%%$@* REX!!!

Houston makes so much sense if im RGIII. I would have instant support from the fanbase. I would have a great defense. I would have a great WR. And most importantly, i would be competing against Hoyer.

Its the alternate spelling there too.

Moron, perhaps?

ANEURISM is a word, genius. I dont need to rely on spell check.

Oh lord. It might be fulfilling but it sure as hell isnt a busy career considering you have 500 posts in this thread alone, having an aneurism over the hiring of an assistant. Get over yourelf.

Yup.

I'm not pulling anything over my eyes..but geesh man. It's January 11, 2016 and the 2016 season is over for you.

Are you always this positive?

Man it's going to be a long off-season

Huh? The last 5 years is half a decade. He didn't go the the championship game 20 years ago. I lived in NYC during Rex's era, I'm well aware of the dumpster fire that occurred there and it was 85% management. He didn't draft Sanchez. He didn't draft Geno. Those are the cards he was given. But he DID want TT - and look how well that's turned out for us so far. So lets at least see what he can do here in Buffalo. Should Tomlin get fired? He missed the playoffs twice in the past 5 years with a HOF QB. Has he gone to an AFC championship game in the last half decade? Tomlin must suck. Rex went 8-8 this year with a team that has some holes. Lets see what next year brings is all I'm saying. Many posters here want him gone now. I don't think that's fair.

You're not being objective at all. You qualify going to consecutive AFC championship games as "some success"..LOL. Vince Lombardi would have gone 4-12 Matt Simms and Geno Smith and Mike Vick at QB. Did Rex Ryan draft Geno? Nope. Where is Idzik today? A "consultant".

most of what I've read has the expectation of Wilkerson being tagged. I would expect the Jets to tag him.

Overall I would say he did. Back to back AFC Championship games and beating the Patriots in the playoffs in New England is a success no matter how you slice it. The dumpster fire that is (or was) upper management in NY is what ultimately ended that relationship. We all consider Mike Tomlin a good coach. He's well respected around the league. Mike Tomlin hasn't mad the playoffs 2 out of 5 years since 2010 and up until this year he hadn't advanced past the wild card round since 2010 - with a hall of fame QB We all consider Tom Coughlin a great coach - he went 4 years in a row without making the playoffs - with a hall of fame QB I'm not saying Rex Ryan is on the same level as those coaches. It's just to put things in perspective: Great coaches go stretches without even making the playoffs with hall of fame QB's leading their team. Rex Ryan going 8-8 with TT isn't the end of the world. Lets see what next year brings.

And with BB having all this time to prepare - not looking good for KC.

LMAO. Losing Maclin is going to really really hurt.

Don't necessarily disagree with the excuses part. To counter your Rex effect point: prior to being bills HC, he was only HC for one team (not plural - one team). Did he or did he not have success with that team? First year with Bills he goes 8-8 - a rather disappointing season due in large part to the expectations by the majority of fans and the coach himself. Lets see how next season goes before we burn down the city.

I want the option: "indifferent" for the first option. I still want to see how it will play out with Thurman and other coaches before I form an opinion.

Pats Arizona Panthers Broncos

Reading these message boards leads one to believe the Bills were 12-4 last season and Rex turned them into a 4-12 team this year. I get why some people don't like Rex; he's an easy target.