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  1. *warning* Rodak article

     

    http://espn.go.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/21321/rex-ryan-changes-tune-on-bills-penalties-reaches-out-for-advice

     

    Rex Ryan changes tune on Bills' penalties, reaches out for advice

     

     

    Even at his post-game presser, didn't Rex actually say that the penalties needed to be fixed and would be addressed? The press was just too busy fluffing up the proud and fight parts to listen?

    So I'm not sure Rex really changed his tune, more somewhat changed emphasis?

  2. The truth is:

     

    Early expectations were too high.

     

    Taylor is new. McCoy and Williams are new. Harvin and Clay are new. Ryan and Roman and Thurman are new.

     

    Things are going in a good direction. There's a good core of players on this team, and some good young talent.

     

    They just aren't ready to be a playoff level team yet. They will look great some weeks, and leave you scratching your head other weeks. Everyone wanted them to be a top AFC contender right out of the gate, and those expectations were unrealistic. It takes time for all these new pieces to come together and gel.

     

    They will be OK in the long run. The upcoming schedule is favorable. If they can stay at .500 through the growing pains they will be in good shape for a late WC run, and even if it doesn't happen this year they are building something better than what they've had for the last decade.

     

    I agree and I disagree. You make some good points about the offense, in particular, needing time to gel and it being natural to sometimes be inconsistent with a new QB, a rookie, and a new guard on the OL. But I feel tremendously positive about the talent upgrade at QB, WR, RB, and slightly on the OL. I also feel positive about the potential of the offensive scheme.

     

    Where I disagree is with regard to the D and ST. We had a top 5, elite D in the NFL last year. We're missing McKelvin and we lost Searcy, but we seem to have talented young replacements. The core - the immensely talented DL and the linebackers, most of the DB, are still here. The key players on ST are still here.

     

    Unless we want to regard losing Spikes as the key piece, it's kind of hard for me to feel that we're building something better on D and ST. I worry that Rex outsmarts himself and his players with too much complexity, a level of complexity able to be neutralized by a smart veteran QB combined with hindered communication (crowd noise does it to us, too) and fast release.

     

    All the penalties - the players are undisciplined and playing for a coach who doesn't know how to instill discipline on ST and D, and who doesn't seem to get the team ready to take each and every opponent seriously. It's like they think all they have to do is show up.

  3. That's one of those things where Woods stayed up just enough to keep the play alive. They could have blown the whistle but they were indeed right not to. Good effort by Woods but a dumb effort as he should have known to go out of bounds or go down. He had the first. It was another play that killed the Bills chances late.

     

    Wasn't there a similar play a few years back with Chandler vs KC where they basically stood him up, kept him from going down or OOB, and stripped the ball? The explanation was the play wasn't dead because the Bills OL was shoving him forward from behind the pile.

     

    If he had not been stripped, no one would be talking about how he should have gone out of bounds. It's all Monday morning QB'ing.

     

    It's a Known Thing now that opponent's D will try to hold a player up and create a turnover if they can. So the OOB thing, sure, but players do have to stay out of that situation where they're prevented from going down and the play stays alive until the ball gets coughed up - and it will get coughed up eventually with enough D beating on it.

     

    Especially at the end of the game where clock management is important

  4. He is a vested veteran and with their salary cap issues I am really surprised they did not release one of the other players with potential but would allow them to sign them again later without the cost.

     

    The Bills did a bunch of cutting and resigning Fluellen around final cutdown/opening week. Dunno what that was all about if not some sort of salary cap/contract maneuver where he wasn't actually on the roster when the season started.

  5. So you guys that are unhappy with Sammy, what do you propose the Bills do with him? Cut him? Trade him?

     

    I understood they were more considering tar and feathers if he doesn't equal OBJ by week 6. Difference in offensive philosophy, QB quality, # of other quality targets - pffffft, who cares? Excuses.

     

    It is possible there might be a reason why there was a move to replace the long- tenured Bud Carpenter last year?

  6. It is one injury after another with Watkins. He is almost reaching disappointment level.

     

    Is this guy ever going to be healthy for an extended string of games?

     

    I understand this is his 1st game out but he has been hobbled more than not.

     

    He needs to become more consistent in all aspects of his game.

     

     

    Imo

     

    But will he be cut on the 2nd day of free agency?

  7. There's a lot of season left and it's probably too early to have this conversation, but if the offense keeps plugging away the way it has, Greg Roman's going to be a top candidate for just about every head coaching job around after this season. After so many years of watching terrible OCs, I'd really hate to see him to go.

     

    However, I remember seeing an article from the offseason where Roman said he interviewed for HC gigs when he was with SF, but that teams got tired of waiting as the 49ers went deep into the playoffs. It sounds like he would definitely like to be a HC and I think Rex and the Bills FO would respect that...but for the sake of this conversation, what could the Bills do to convince him to stay?

     

    The Pegulas could definitely give him head coach type money and an assistant head coach title...what else? T.O.'s key to the city? A guarantee that we spend all draft picks next year on the offense? Get crazy with it, let's make him an offer he can't refuse!

     

    Yeah, I think it's early to have this conversation.

     

    The Bills looked really good against the Colts and Miami. Once NE started stacking the box against us, Roman did not appear to have an answer until they loosened up again in the 4th quarter.

    I think we'd better see how Roman does against a wider mix of teams and coordinators before we anoint him HC Candidate of the Year and start stressing about how to keep him.

     

    I can remember similar threads, pre-season, about both Wannstache and Schwartz (though I do wonder why Schwartz got no interest - some history there from his time in Detroit?)

    Pay him a lot of money.

     

    If the man wants to be a HC, there are only 32 of those jobs in the world, and money won't keep him.

     

    I think it worked out well for us, but I do wonder if Pettine might second-guess his decision to take the Browns HC job. He did step into a muck-yard of a situation. It is possible that Roman might want to be more selective, and might want to wait for the "right" job instead of jumping at the first offer.

  8. Since we pretty much know the Pats are going to run away with another division title, let's keep track of the teams that we need to keep pace with to get that playoff spot. We don't necessarily have to list all the standings but maybe news about teams that are better than we thought (Cinci for me) or the teams that or not playing that well (Ravens).

     

    Right now, the teams I feel will be in the race are Pitt/Baltimore/Cinci and San Diego/Denver

     

     

     

    Before Game 4 of the season is even played? Seriously? Seriously?

  9.  

    Well Taylor has 96 of our 458 yards and Harvin 32. We aren't an effective rushing team with our RB's and Felton was supposed to be a big part of improving our run game - and hasn't.

     

    Oh, Lordy. Why do people insist on subtracting this and that and then critiqueing the remainder? Last I looked Taylor and Harvin were both on the team and their stats count.

     

    If you insist, that leaves us with 330 yds or 110 yds per game and puts us in the middle of the NFL, 15th, for running. Last year, for comparison, we were 25th in the league.

  10. This. There is a reason no one signed Brown. The guy fumbles and can't play ST. Not very good for a 3rd string RB.

     

    I hope they bring Wood up from the PS and give him some carries if Boobie looks bad again as the backup.

     

    I would kind of like to see them activate Wood this week. If McCoy is out we're one Williams sprained ankle away from no running game.

     

    Dixon was not that bad last year on a team with no run blocking to speak of: 4.1 ypc. I do wonder if his calf is still bothering him.

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    I don't think it's just Rex. Anthony Lynn went on record saying some pretty critical things:

     

    "The position coach working with Brown every day knows this is a problem.

    “He has been careless with the football his whole career,” running backs coach Anthony Lynn said. “He’s gotten away with it. But now that defenses have caught up with offenses and ball security, they practice it every day. They’re more worried about taking the ball from you, than tackling you.” “To be honest with you,” Lynn said, “I haven’t seen as much improvement as I was hoping to see. Right now, over his career, he’s putting the ball on the ground every 56 touches. Whereas, LeSean is putting it on the ground every 125 touches. So I want to see more progress and I want to see it quickly."

     

    The problem with Brown? He carries the ball "like a baton,” Lynn said. His wrist is too often below his elbow — the way he’s run since high school.

    This loose, arm-pumping motion is one reason Brown was one of the nation’s top recruits out of high school, a five-star prospect who could pick his destination. On to the NFL, he averaged 4.6 yards per carry in two seasons with Philadelphia and the Bills traded away a fourth-round pick to get him.

     

    Lynn says Brown must buy in. “You have to make some sacrifices to your running style for ball security,” Lynn said. “That’s what we’re emphasizing. I’m still trying to get him there. We’re all trying to get him there and get him to turn the corner. Some guys can turn the corner, very few don’t. We’re hoping that he does. “It’s definitely fixable because I’ve had backs who put the ball on the ground before. It’s just an awareness issue. But they have to be willing to make those sacrifices and changes to their game. I haven’t been with Bryce that long. We got into this training camp to get it fixed and that’s my job — to get it done.”

     

    That was the article that put the writing on the wall for me with Brown. When your position coach says "to be honest with you, I haven't seen as much improvement as I was hoping to see"...."I want to see more progress and I want to see it quickly" "Brown must buy in" that basically says to me the guy is a coaching issue, he ISN'T buying in to what he's being coached to do and trying to correct the problem, and that is very likely why he's still unemployed after two weeks despite tremendous physical talent and ability.

     

    Contrary to what some here think, I think Whaley has no ego invested in specific players. He traded a 4th for Brown because he thought the guy's physical talent could make that a steal if they could coach him up. No one who has seen some of Brown's moves can doubt his physical talent. But once Lynn said "he isn't buying in, he isn't trying to improve as we're coaching him to do", Whaley nodded and got out the scissors.

  12. No team is remotely close to the Patriots in terms of the personnel needed to effectively execute that game plan as the Pats did. I hope they try to dink and dunk on us. Rex won't let that crap happen again.

     

    You're absolutely right about the Patriots quality (alas!) but it's still a blueprint for success against our D and other teams will try it until we prove we can eat them for brunch if they do.

  13. You sure about that? How many three and outs did the Pats* have in the second half by throwing the ball? I venture to guess if Pats* went to the running game, Bills would have completed the comeback.

     

    BTW didn't the Bills blow out their opposition after the loss?

     

    I take your point that we were stuffing their run pretty effectively, so passing per se was a ball control strategy for them. This bolded part I'm not so sure of. Two key plays that enabled the comeback were:

     

    1. NE "going for it" in the 4th quarter on 4th and 1 at the Buf 41 with a deep pass play to Edelman. They missed and gave us the ball with excellent field position from which we scored 8 plays later. I think that gets interpreted they weren't just trying to keep the drive alive, they were trying to score 7 points and run the score up to 44-19.

     

    2. Then, after the failed onside kick, Brady was strip-sacked at the Buf 41 resulting in a 2nd Buffalo score making it 37-32. In the All-22, Brady is bouncing in place, waiting for a play to develop. Gronk appears open near the LOS on the right sideline. Brady appears to be looking deeper - again, I think that is taken as they weren't just trying to keep the drive alive, they were trying to score 7 and keep it a blowout.

     

    Arguably in both cases a punt would have pinned us deep and made it more likely the drive would stall or just forced us to eat more time, a short ball-control type pass would have left the ball in the Pats hands and out of ours, and the plays the Pats dialed up were going for our throats and backfired.

  14. In spite of the opinion expressed in this article, good for Rex.

     

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000542610/article/rex-patriots-were-clearly-trying-to-embarrass-bills

     

    I'm tired of coaches who conceded two games per year to the Cheats*

     

    Rex did play the first game in Buffalo wrong by whipping up the frenzy and playing soft D. He will not make the same mistake in a few weeks.

     

    I hate the Pats*** as much as anyone, but a winning team has to "get all the way over" a butt-kicking and move on to focus 100% on their next opponent

     

    That said, I need to find and listen to the actual interview because plenty of stuff gets taken out of context and puffed up.

     

    EDIT: OK, I finally found it on the Buffalo Bills website. Rex was directly asked about facing Eli Manning after the Brady beatdown. Then he was directly asked if our team "got something" out of the "humiliating loss" to New England. Then it gets portrayed as if Rex is just dwelling on the NE loss and spontaneously brought it up.

  15. technically, you're wrong...it is possible, but i'm assuming that wasn't the case yesterday

    obviously a crazy hypothetical scenario, but say a guy goes 5/9, and all 5 completions are screen passes that go 70 yards each for touchdowns, and he throws another 4 horrible balls that are dropped by the defenders...would you say he had a great game?

    again, an absurd example of course, but the reasoning PFF gives for their grading system makes sense

    from seeing some highlights, it was his timing and accuracy that was incredible last night, not necessarily the degree of difficulty of the throws and him dropping them into tight windows, which i believe is what PFF measures

     

    I'm glad it makes sense to someone. Send them your resume'?

     

    If I have it right, they graded Seantrel Henderson very badly in the Bills-Pfish game and Suh well. Taylor had all year to throw most of the time, and Henderson, while not spectacular, held up his end, while Suh was pretty much a non-factor.

     

    IMHO all of PFF's grades are currently suspect as they don't seem to have a lot of correlation to playing effective, winning football - which is after all, the purpose of taking the field. This is Football, not f*@k!ng figure skating. There are no points awarded in the game for degree of difficulty or style.

  16. @WGR550

    JW: All-22 Review - Bills-Dolphins http://tinyurl.com/ox98gjt

    @JeremyWGR

    With Harvin, Clay, McCoy, Watkins, and Woods all moving around, it’s got to be quite difficult for any D to sell out to stop one thing.

     

    Still putting up some stuff on Karlos Williams, but here’s what I’ve got so far… #wherearetheformations

     

    Thanks!

     

    3rd gif down. I saw this on condensed and all-22. Wood steps back as a 2nd level of protection. Two smelly Pfish head for Taylor. Say what you like about Wood, but that's two Squished Pfish. They aren't just slowed, they're flattened.

  17.  

    With Karlos playing well, it's not necessary to cut anyone to bring up another RB.

     

    Someone will get cut for Leodis to come off IR , unless another player goes to IR.

     

    If Shady is out for the Giants game I would expect them to bring up Cierre. Boobie has not been getting it done.

     

    I do wonder exactly what Fluellen brings to the table. Is he a staunch STer or something?

    Someone had to be cut to make room for Dareus. Whaley cut the player he deemed the most expendable, even though many of us disagree.

     

    Of course, but that's begging the same question "why, with McCoy still nursing a hamstring, was our 4th RB considered most expendable? Why not Fluellen or someone else where we're deep?"

  18. What's wrong with Bryce Brown?

    Is he a raging !@#$? We're led to believe he's not a dummy. Is he a head case? Impossible to get a long with>

    Because he's a MUCH better tailback than A LOT of guys with jobs right now.

    You mean to tell me Cleveland, Tennessee, Dallas, Miami, Detroit, Baltimore, New Orleans, NYG...NONE of these teams could benefit from having the guy on their rosters?

     

    It is a bit of a puzzling question to me why he got cut just when he did. It wasn't optimal timing - we had to have known the Pats would have him in and scrape out his brains. And we knew McCoy wasn't healthy yet and playing would make it worse. So why carry him that far and cut him just then?

     

    I'm not sure it's a million-dollar question but it is a $745k question or so why no one else has picked him up. He does have talent. The only issue to be seen is the obvious one of ball security - it's not just the fumbles, he just doesn't carry the rock and protect it like he should all around - watch him sometime. He doesn't switch arms when someone is approaching from his ball side, he doesn't wrap it up with both arms when he's hit. But NFL coaches have egos, and someone has to figure they can do what the Iggles and Bills coaches couldn't, and persuade him to cherish that baby.

     

    Unless, of course, the Bills caught him with some substance he shouldn't have? But that's pure unvarnished speculation.

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