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Should the Bills offence look like it has looked, and the even worse Defense continues to show it can't carry the team either ...... Provided he is fully healthy, is it time to throw Cardale Jones out there for the rest of the season to see what the Bills have in him (after 0-5, 0-6) ?????
Reasoning: If the record is going to put us in the top five of the draft, there will be tremendous pressure to draft a QB higher than unidentified QB should be drafted. If Cardale proves capable, it would take that pressure off.
Thoughts?
Is this a real question or are you trolling?
1. Taylor has just 16 games on his resume.
2. Taylor made the Pro Bowl last year.
3. They just gave Taylor a new contract, it 100% his team this year to prove himself considering the contract has favorable outs if he doesn't improve.
4. Cardale is NOT ready to play in the NFL.
5. Cardale is NOT ready to even play in college as a starter, hence why he lost his starting job.
6. EJ > Cardale by light years right now, and thats not an endorsement of EJ, thats how far away Cardale is. He is a project with upside, not an NFL ready QB.
7. This staff wants to win at all costs, they are NOT going to throw away the season this early.
8. This staff, FO, and Owners want to see if Taylor can continue to progress and they will give him time.
9. The change at OC is literally going to buy everyone more time as they will be assumed they need to adjust.
I mean I can go on and on and on about how unplausible this idea is. I can't imagine anyone would actually think this is a good idea, let alone plausible. Cardale is more likely to get cut then to start a game this year, and he is NOT going to get cut.
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So 100% fact ... not so much.
No I said its 100% fact that he would not be there for a job with the Bills assuming he was actually there. If he was there, then its 100% because of his job with the NFL, not for a job for a Bills position that isn't currently open.
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So he was at the stadium? When?
Not sure, I am just assuming he was if multiple people saw him per this thread says. But he works for the NFL and visits teams...that would be the ONLY reason he could have been at OBD, that was the point. I don't even know if it was confirmed he was there or not.
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1. Coughlin meets with multiple teams as part of his job with the NFL.
2. No team, not the Bills/Pegulas, or any other organization no matter how bad the situation or coaching issues will ever bring in a potential replacement into the building before they have ever fired their existing staff. Will not ever happen.
This is nothing outside of his job for the NFL and doing a standard visit. Doesn't mean the Pegulas wouldn't throw in a "what if" question or two, but he was not here to potentially become the next HC or for any other job inside the Bills organization, and that is 100% fact. Doesn't mean they didn't take the opportunity to throw some feelers out, but that was not by any means the purpose of his visit.
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Again players are complaining they can not comprehend a playbook, this year it is Offense, last year it was Defense. Did they all fail the wonderlic? Why are all these guys unable to comprehend what the coaches are doing? Are we the only team that needs to make things vanilla for our players? Are the coaches unable to convey to the players what they want properly? I don't get it.
Well about damn time...Romans over complicating simple possessions like 3rd and 1 into gimmick plays, long bombs, etc was absurd. Thats how you lose football games...go get the damn 1st down, don't get cute or try and out smart them...just get the damn first down and extend the drive. I have never been so mad at an OC since Hackett was here like I was on Thursday night. Its like these coordinators are more concerned looking like a genius than they are of getting the first down.
Reminded me of that Poker player who calls on the River with very little in his hand because he wants to make the "Hero" call and be right...except he almost always wrong, behind, and loses are for the sake of that one time of getting the glory when it rarely works.
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18 games dude.
18 games for who? If you're referencing Taylor, its 16, he missed 2 games last which we lost without him.
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All respect, Alpha, I just don't buy this line of reasoning. Scoring fast is GOOD. Blaming the O for scoring efficiently is cray-cray. See: K-Gun. The D spent 8:19 on the field before the O even touched the ball.
The D controls its own fate, always. All they have to do is get the stop and hand the ball back to the O. If the O goes 3 and out, rinse and repeat.
The D looked bad. They made Fitz look like Brees or Brady. Ain't that some sh**.
No worries, respect your post...here is my reply.
Ok, you referenced the K-Gun offense...that defense is not this defense for one. Second, this defense is missing 4 key starters, including its best player and is super thin. Third, that defense during the K-Gun was conditioned for being on the field longer because they played with that hurry up offense for so long.
So, its not a situation where everything is equal. And I didn't blame the defensive woes only on the offense, the D was terrible and it was like we had no safeties on the field...but its also foolish to ignore how long the D was on the field. Its known facts that the D is at a disadvantage when on the field for long stretches at a time compared to the opposing offense. I mean this isn't even debatable, you can ask as many players, coaches, GMs etc as you want and you will get a 100% yes every time on that.
And it wasn't the scoring plays, it was also 3 and outs on the other drives. The D, which was very thin already, was on the filed the majority of the first half. They did not get a real break until the final drive of the half that the Bills finally sustained that took them into half time.
Sustained offensive drives kill the momentum of the opposing offense, limits their number of possessions, etc. To say the offense doesn't affect the defense just isn't factually correct. Sure the D still needs to do their job, needs to make plays, and ultimately is responsible for getting off the field. However, the offense made their job a LOT harder on Thursday and in a game where the opposing offense is red hot and tearing our D apart, our own offense needs to figure out how to make first downs and get them rest and limit how many times the opponents offense is going to get the ball.
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It is clear we need a "franchise" QB, or at least not a "backup" playing starter. Here is my suggestion:
1. Get Bradford on a 2-3 year deal. He showed last night that he is a baller when healthy, and Diggs has a similar game to Watkins. He has a 17 million cap-hit next year. If Teddy is healthy I see the Vikings cutting him.
2. Draft Kelly. He can learn behind Bradford for a few years.
3. Keep Jones as the 3rd string QB.
Cut TT and Manuel. (well, try to trade them, but that may not work. Unless Chip Kelly thinks TT is his answer).
OH COME ON! This board SLAMMMMMMMMEEEEEDDDDDD and MOCCCCKKKKEEDDDD the Vikings for trading for Bradford. The guy comes into one game and has a good game and now he's also our savior? How many QBs that this board previously hated are now are saviors? Lets see, I have heard EJ, Bradford, bring Fitz back, even Mike Glennon. Just ridiculous.
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SDS ran out of storage for last year's excuses, so please put 2016's here.
So far Kim Jung QB is 0-2. There were 5 defensive or special teams touchdowns in the entire league yesterday. 40% of them were gifts from the impervious one.
Luck might be the most over rated QB I have ever seen in my life. That does NOT mean he is a bad QB, I am saying he is so freaking over rated. He has an atrocious post season performance record, and I don't mean just win/loss. I mean he has more turnovers than Touchdowns, that his play greatly drops off, is rating is terrible, etc. Luck complies big stats in the regular season off his weak division and then gets crushed by good defenses.
He just doesn't make good decisions. Is he a starting QB, absolutely. Is he a good QB, absolutely. Is he a great QB...not a chance, at least not yet. He is anointed as if he's the best QB in the league by people yet he's never been close. Colts won more games with-OUT hm last year than WITH him. He is a turnover machine.
Hes a guy who actually gets more stats because of his mistakes. His turnovers put them behind often and they have to keep throwing his way back into the game. Defenses soften up later in the game and he gets late game scores while down multiple scores.
If Luck can figure out how to not make so many bad decisions and reign in his turnovers, he could be special. Until then, he is Jeff George part 2. Jeff was one of the most gifted passers in the game during his time, but his achilles heal was always mental and poor decision making. When I watch Luck, I see Jeff George with the ability to also run. I see a guy living on his draft hype still of being the greatest prospect since Manning but isn't living up to it. I see a guy who regressed last year and hasn't shown any growth as a passer over last 2 years. I see a guy who's personal performance plummets in the post season.
I don't see the highest paid QB ever or a guy who deserves it. I don't see a HOF player by any means. I don't see the guy everyone tells me he is.
Doesn't mean he wont get there, but right now he is no where near what the fantasy football GM's tell me he is because he scores for them in Fantasy.
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Assuming that Rex Ryan is gone, here is a list of potential HC's I can think of. Feel free to add others. They are in no particular order. Although my top two likely would be Patricia and Bevell.
(1) Keith Butler: Steelers DC: The Steelers D has continued to be fantastic despite mediocre players in the secondary and up-front.
(2) Matt Patricia: Pats** DC. The Pats D funnels players in and out, doesn't matter, the D always seems to come up big when needed. Seems like a guy who puts his players in a position to win. He also has experience on the offensive side of the ball at the college level (OL player at RPI); O-line coach at SU and with the Pats**.
(3) Darrell Bevell: Seattle OC. Interviewed with Bills before they hired Rex. Great OC.
(4) Jim Schwartz: Philly DC. Outstanding D coach. Would need great OC.
I do not think Rex is going to get fired during the season, but you never know. So I will chime in just in case.
Jim Schwartz was a terrible HC, so please no Schwartz. Man I would love to have him back as our DC, but he was a train wreck as a HC and we might as well stay with Rex in that case.
I do like Bevell and feel like there are similarities in our offensive personnel and Seattle's. Style of QB, prefer to run more than throw, questionable WR group, under performing TE.
I know some disagree, but I think Cower is a great fit for this team. This is a team suited for how he wants to play, I think he would get a lot out of the players.
Another guy I wouldn't normally want, but I think is someone this team could use is Coughlin...simply on discipline alone.
I forget his name, but what the OC accomplished in Carolina last year was incredible, especially with so little talent outside of Cam and Olsen on the offense. He would be high on my list and he is experienced with Mobile QB's.
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Here is the truth about the game last night:
1. Defense was bad. To be fair, it was missing its most talented player and 3 other expected week 1 starters. It was also facing a ton of pressure having to be on the field for a ridiculous amounts of time because the offense left the field quickly in the first half from either quick score or a unsustained drives. At the same time, the scheme itself looked bad, I mean it was like the safeties were ghosts out there. Hard to say how much of that had to do from the missing personnel and getting wore out never getting off the field, but overall, the secondary was torn apart and was frequently in bad position.
2. Offense was more bad than good. Offense had a few bright spots, and we got a couple scores in those few bright spots. However, overall, the play calling was utterly atrocious, the effort from some of the guys TT threw too was piss poor (Clay I am still furious over that 3rd down where you ran your route straight out of bounds and didn't even look for the ball TT threw right into your butt that you should have caught for a first), and TT more often than not looked uncomfortable and didn't see multiple opportunities or flat our missed them.
The team did battle back, but that battle back was more built around a couple of big plays rather than a consistent team making plays.
Overall, I havent been that disgusted with an OC since that POS Hacket was here. I mean throwing bombs on 3rd and 1 or getting too cute on 3rd and 1 all game long is how you lose football games and put even more pressure on your D. His run schemes are terrible too and he has no clue how to get the most out of McCoy. Any OC who isn't getting a min of 10 attempts to Sammy and 10 to Clay every game shouldn't be coaching as those are our only 2 real receiving weapons. Woods is a 3rd string WR at best who never seems to keep his feet. Goodwin is a deep threat specialist with the talent to be more but the body who can't be more because he can't take the hits. So if you aren't throwing 10 times a game to Clay and Sammy then you need your head examined as an OC. Not to mention, Roman seems to have no idea how to actually run plays for those guys when he does.
I gave Roman credit last year, but man he has been bad this year. All the things he did last year that irked me have become the norm this year. At least last year, there were a lot of other positives to over shadow the dumb calls.
PS: This team misses Karlos Williams...a lot. McCoy is NOT a power back. Hopefully Williams can come in and fill some of those shoes.
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I would be all for Cower because this team is built for him IMO and I think it would be a good fit. I do think Cower wouldn't fit in everywhere, but I do think this would be a good fit.
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Yes we absolutely missed those guys. A secondary depends on the front 7 more than people realize. The secondary was atrocious last night, not all because of who we were missing, but those guys not there in the front 7 certainly made their job harder and changed what we can do in terms of scheme too.
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Revis run by like he was standing still.
Unbelievable...
Well lets be honest, no DB is going to keep up with Goodwin on that route...
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I was in the middle of typing how crappy Roman call pass plays.
Not much to it, just let the real fast guy run down the sideline!
Revis didn't have a chance.
No DB in football has a chance in a spring with Goodwin
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Nope. The board is unbearable after every loss. Yeah the Bills haven't been up to par, but the dumb jokes, the ridiculous POV's, and assignment of blame (If only we could get rid of Russ Brandon!) is a poor performance on our fans part on par with the bills. There's criticism and then there's legitimate football criticism.
I know that is just how some fans deal with disappointment, but that doesn't mean I can't find it obnoxious and annoying when I am trying to watch a football game or look at a board and see fans bashing Rex for making a comment that has exactly zero to do with football. Get a grip guys.
This times 1000
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to be fair, thats still a bit ridiculous.
hes passing up what has been a successful medical treatment for a serious medical issue he has because his brother was unable to use the same treatment.
to be fair, thats still a bit ridiculous.
hes passing up what has been a successful medical treatment for a serious medical issue he has because his brother was unable to use the same treatment.
Why is it ridiculous? The lap band almost killed Rob, I would want mine out too if I realized it could kill me, especially if it almost killed my brother. This is such a stupid non story and this isn't even a current story, Rex had it removed a while ago. I don't care if someone hates Rex or loves Rex, its still just utterly absurd that this board is trying to turn this into something its not. Its my own fault, I know better, this board is unbearable after a loss and I came to it anyway, so its on me.
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No he didn't.
He probably had a band slip, a not infrequent complication that once diagnosed, is not fatal. Seems like he didn't have any followup with his surgeon to take care of this early on.
Even so, it makes no sense for Rex to have a properly functioning band so that he and his brother can both return to morbid obesity.
Um you're absolutely wrong:
http://nypost.com/2016/05/27/rob-ryans-lap-band-almost-killed-him/
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2663546-rex-ryan-has-lap-band-removed-to-support-brother-rob
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I don't even know where to begin on this one. The CBS analyst quoted, "I am not a Bills Believer for a Myriad of Reasons." Another says, "It's time for Rex to call his realtor, because he will be shipped out."
If this helps, God bless Rex. Hell, if fat Rex is a winner and skinny Rex is a loser, then Ho Ho Ho, he better be fattened up for Christmas and bring me my golden goose... THAT'S THE PLAYOFFS REX... We deserve good football. No goose, cut fat Rex loose.
I love football and look forward to watching it, but Thursday night will be like wearing a lapband on my balls. It's too frustrating to watch pathetic football and the monster in me keeps coming back for more.
Here's the article:
Are you even serious with this dumb post? He took it off because his brother almost died having one put on. Did you even read the articles? He took it off to support his brother and even said they will figure out this weight loss thing together. He made a joking comment that he won more games before he got it, but the real story was his support for his brother.
Geezus, this stuff around here can get really pathetic after a loss.
He removed his band because his brother failed to loose weight with his??
Wow, that is nuts. He had a great result (for that operation) and he has another surgery to end up where he started? This is beyond dumb.
No he removed it because his brother almost died with his. Big difference.
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I fully agree and I hate to say it but a lot of the pressure was coming from Incog's side. He really got beat up on a few plays that I saw. I didn't think the OL was great but I certainly thought it was better than that.
And I'm glad that you noticed what I did with Woods. I still don't understand what was going on with the way he kept falling down.
Yeah, if you go back to last year, you will see multiple posts from me about how Woods always seems to lose his footing on routes, running with the ball, etc. Just don't understand how this guy always loses his footing as often as he does and many times without contact.
Yeah, Incognito struggled a lot more than I expected. Like you, I didn't think the OL was Elite by any means, but I also didn't expect it to be that bad against Baltimore. Doesn't help with the injuries to Glenn and the suspenions, but even our better players like Richie struggled a lot.
People on this board tend to forget that this was only Tyrod's 15th game as a starter, not even a full season worth of games. He is a young QB still, and when a young QB sees the protection break down so fast and often, they lose confidence that they will have the time to execute.
I think this week could be another rough week in terms of pressure, so not confident we will get the offense back on track this week. The Jets secondary is vulnerable, but the OL needs to give the QB and WR's time to execute. More importantly, Roman needs to adjust. This offense needs to FEATURE...and I mean FEATURE...Clay like NE does with Gronk. Clay is one of the most talented TE's in football, we need to be treating him as our second most dangerous weapon in our passing game and feature him as such. Especially with the OL issues, Clay will be Tyrods best friend. Watkins and Clay, they need a minimum of 10 targets each per game...anything less than that is inexcusable. Watkins excelled on short routes in college, one of the best to ever do it...if we aren't getting time then we need to adjust and start using our weapons in a way where we can get the ball out faster. Not just dump offs to check downs, designed plays where they can be dangerous after the catch as well. This will also open up the deep ball. You get Clay and Watkins dominating in the short to medium range along with McCoy and the deep balls to Goodwin and Watkins will be there.
Maybe I should coach this team.
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it is not unreasonable to assume that he would have had a better showing if Sammy was healthy.
We all know that Sammy is a good player, and wr is a problem if they were all healthy.
Woods imo has morphed into a strange player. I saw him throw a nice block yesterday but he looked like his balance was off on other plays. Almost like he was intox, falling around, etc. And with teams forced to double Watkins, one would think he would be open more than he appears to be.
If Sammy is out for any length of time, this could very well be a top 5 team in the 2017 draft. Hopefully by then, Whaley will not have given away the rest of our picks.
Ive never in my life seen a WR (Woods) fall or trip so often in games. Its like he plays drunk every game. Makes a catch, falls to the ground. Running a route...falls to the ground. This guy must have the worst equilibrium I have ever seen on a professional football field.
I think the bigger issue was the OL, definitely more so than Sammy's health. Tyrod was getting no time, and when he did have time it was like he didn't believe he had time. It was like he would hike the ball with no confidence the plays could develop.
The OL is a big big concern right now. Suspensions, injuries, inconsistencies...none of it bodes well going into this weeks game with a PUNISHING, and probably the most punishing DL in football against the Jets. If we can get Taylor some time (which looks like a losing battle going into the game) then that secondary can be beaten. But without time, I fear it will be another poor offensive effort.
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Cecil Shorts might be worth a look, he was cut by Texans after one season to go with youth movement even though he's only 28
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And that worked out great!!!
They gave up a stupid amount to replace 14 td passes.
If Bradford is worth a 1st and another pick, perhaps we could have gotten a 1st for EJ.
I didnt say it was a good trade, I commented on why they did it.
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what this says to me is Teddy's knee is f***'ed up beyond repair. you don't do a trade like that if it's only for this season
Not true...this is the last year or 2 of your best players career...AP. They feel they have a good team and can challenge in the NFC, so they are going all in now. Lakers did the same thing with Kobe trading for Dwight and giving up way too much for Nash. This move was done because they feel they can win now.
Tom Coughlin was at the stadium
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Not necessary.
Its 100% fact that no team in the NFL would ever bring in a potential replacement before a current person was fired. It will literally never ever happen. And they would not even bring him in for a new position that isn't currently staffed without making it clear to the public and to Rex, including involving Rex, to make sure there is no speculation about Rex's job over it. I mean we just fired the OC and Rex job security has been called into question. We are only 2 games into the season with enough turmoil, no owner is dumb enough to do that. Coaches would never work for an organization like that, at least not good ones.
Again, doesn't mean Pegulas didn't slip in a feeler or two if he was actually here. But if he was here, its 100% because of his job in the NFL that requires him to visit teams. Case Closed, there is literally nothing to speculate no matter how bad some of you want it to be true he was here for a job.