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yeah starting to see that a bit. Oo well.
Well despite my best efforts and the efforts of others giving you advice on how to handle yourself, you still don't get it. I didn't fault you for the fact you are critical of Taylor, I said you are hard to take seriously because you push the negative agenda so hard, even during good games. You openly admit you are going to be highly negative and critical until the Bills prove you wrong...well they were proving you wrong on Sunday, but that didn't stop you. And I get it, thats only one game...we are by no means suddenly a lock for the playoffs. But when others are really liking what they are seeing during the game, maybe lay off the agenda to prove you are right about Taylor and they are wrong until after the game in your "assessment" thread and present your case.
You present your opinion as infallible and as absolute truth. Then, when the team is playing great, you still cram that same negative opinion down everyones throat rather than enjoy the game. So you present yourself as a man with an agenda more than a man who might have some good insight for anyone to pay attention to.
But hey, just my (and others) 2 cents...do what you want, its a free country.
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Maybe it was just me, but if you're going to throw a pick, 3rd down to the 10yd line is a good way to do it. As good as an incomplete and great punt. Don't get me wrong better to complete that down the field, but it didn't hurt anymore than a 2 yrd run.
Yes, might as well heave it down near the goal line in that situation.
However, the one thing that bothered me on that play had nothing to do with TT or the play call, as I think the call was correct and TT made the right move. However, my gripe is with Goodwin. It was a go route and he was not running at full speed when TT threw it...he had let up which gave PP a huge cushion on him to easily be in position for the ball. Goodwin didn't start sprinting until after the ball was in the air which then removed any possibility that the play could result into a positive for the offense.
That along with the several dropped passes by other WR's and some other bad routes are why despite the big win the WR group got a C- grade from me. We sorely need Sammy back. Powell flashed some potential, but he also has several bad plays too. Hope he gets more time on the field so he can hopefully continue to improve though.
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Dude OMG. There are only 16 games in the season. Hardly anybody gets a win total of 0, 1, 2, 3, 14, 15 or 16. This leaves teams ranging between 4 and 12 wins....probably 90+% of the teams. 4, 5, 6 win teams have no chance and 7 win teams only win really bad divisions which hardly ever happens. 12 and 13 win teams will almost always win their division mathematically. This leaves a WHOLE lot of teams between 8 and 11 wins....a range of 4 wins...which means tiebreakers are mathematically inevitable in a 32 team league with 4 open WC slots. and/or division Champ ties. Geez.
Note that I doubt we'll have to worry about the division championship ties because of the Pats but had we beaten Baltimore but still lost to the Jets we'd be in bad shape there too.
First off, to get into the playoffs in the AFC you usually need at least 10 wins and its looking that way again this year. Pats missed them with 11 wins last time they missed the playoffs.
That brings me back to this: Once again you are ignoring the fundamentally most important fact:
TO BE IN A TIE BREAKER SCENARIO FOR A PLAYOFF BIRTH, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH WINS TO ACTUALLY BE TIED WITH SOMEONE FOR A PLAYOFF SPOT...PERIOD.
The stupidity of your theory I think has just been outed by another poster showing that you are probably ieatcrayonz which then makes your post make sense as ieatcrayonz lived to post gibberish and loves to troll.
And if in fact you are not him and you sadly believe this absurd theory that losing would have been better, then I don't know what else to tell you other than to stop drinking so much whisky.
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If you're going to give a realistic assessment of Taylor's performances, be prepared to get flamed for it.
I learned just the other day, right here in the Shoutbox, that I am a racist because I don't think Tyrod Taylor is a good QB. I'm still saddened to learn of my racist ways. And shocked.
There is nothing wrong with thinking Taylor isn't good...there is also nothing wrong thinking he's good or an ascending young QB.
But to go into the shout box during a game where he is playing good and the whole team is playing good and continuously try to rain on everyones parade during the best game this team has played this year is pretty stupid. So maybe he and others should be smarter about where to pick their battles. Its sad the shout box has become a miserable place to be during games, even big wins. Negative police come out in full force to make sure you know that they "know" that certain player, Rex, the team, etc still suck...then they ram it down your throat rather than enjoy the game where we are stomping a major SB contender.
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Playoffs are determined by the entire 16 game record. Games at the beginning or end of the season are weighted equally but the first tie breaker for AFC teams is eliminating teams that have a good record against the NFC. You can look it up at NFL.com
This is the ridiculousness of your post: You are saying that tie breakers are better if we lose essentially than if we won yesterday. However, and pay close attention to this fact that seems to escape this logic:
To be in a tie breaker scenario for a playoff birth, you have to have enough wins to actually be tied with someone else for a playoff spot.
Therefore, the Win is exponentially MORE important to the 0-2 football team we were going into that game as than a tie breaker scenario. At 0-3, the odds dramatically decrease that we will be tied with anyone fighting for a playoff spot. So no offense, you are emphatically wrong that this could hurt us more than losing would have. There is no scenario where going 0-3 increases our odds of making the playoffs over being 1-2, especially since our next 4 games are absolutely all winnable, and if we do win all four we would be sitting at 5-2 instead of 4-3 had we lost yesterday. Or if we lose one of those games, we can still be at 4-3 rather than 3-4.
And none of what I said even factors in the confidence boost this team badly needed going into the NE game next week who will not be an easy win even if Edelman is playing QB, Coach BB has proven that over and over again. If we lose yesterday, would anyone even think we have a chance against NE next week? Probably not, and this teams moral wouldn't be very high either...all furthering the point, that winning was by far the best outcome yesterday.
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And as far as the positional grades go to contribute to the thread:
QB: B+ Taylor had a very good all around game. Missed a couple opportunities, which is why its not an A.
RB: A+ McCoy and company did their thing.
OL: A- Impressive day from a group that had been struggling.
WR's: C- This group dropped too many passes, some WR's let up on routes they shouldn't have, and wasn't their best day. Made a few good plays, but not enough to ignore the drops and bad routes.
TE: C Didn't really do a whole lot out there good or bad.
DL: A- Played very well...would be an A+ but they gave up a little too much on the ground.
LB: B Solid game by the LBs all around.
DB: A+ Best they played since Schwartz was here. AW and Gilmore stepped up big time.
ST: C- Carp is still a liability here, and this grade is squarely on his missed XP as it became a factor late in the game.
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Yes i admit i was critical of the Bills. Will remain critical until they show me a reason not too. Apparently my thread here was just so i can attack Taylor, although if you read i i talked about improvement i saw with him and even make mention of two specific plays.
But there was still issues and i am not gonna gloss over them either
First, i didn't even read your original post here, because like I said based on how were acting Sunday and last week makes it hard for me to take you seriously.
Second, I don't have a problem with people criticizing players or coaches, I do as well. What I have a problem with is during games where we are playing good and winning people coming in STILL trying to prove we suck, a certain player still sucks (even when playing well), etc. Thats what the message board is for. You said your piece on Taylor in the shout box, but then you just wouldn't stop to the point I am pretty sure a mod kicked you cuz you went silent all of a sudden.
Nobody cares about your negative view on Taylor, so you don't need to ram it down everyones throats during a good game where he and the rest of the team were playing pretty good. There is an entire week of time after the game on the boards to tell everyone how you feel he still sucks and his Pro Bowl means nothing and not the same thing as All Pro. If Taylor is crapping the bed out there, then i get it, but during a great game all the ridiculous negative agenda rants are over the top annoying.
There is being critical of the Bills and there is being a fan of the Bills. You have clearly decided that its more important to be critical and be right about being critical than actually rooting for them to win the game. Sunday was a great game, exciting game, a game we put up big points and the D put up big plays...but all you cared about was being right that they still suck despite all that. And look, they may still suck, its only one game...but geezus christ, when they are playing well enjoy the dam game and let the others enjoy the game too cuz who knows how many of them we will get.
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Ok gonna get back to reviewing games. Disclaimer this is from my eye so I know not everyone will agree with what I saw, I have watched the game a couple times so this is what I get out of it. I always try to break it down by position groups, and while talking position groups I will highlight a couple players I am sure that stood out to me. So without further delay here it is, hope you all enjoy the breakdown.
Offense
OL
Going to start here, because this is where I think Lynn's approach helped the most. This unit had a great game. The difference I saw there was a lot more firing off the ball and a lot less catching than in the previous weeks. I point that to the simplified blocking concepts. Yes, Richie was still pulling (as he should he is one of the best at it), but that is not what I am referring too. Roman runs a multiple concept blocking scheme, and he loves having his OL "out think" a scheme. In his concepts the 1st couple weeks the OL was responsible for a lot of "passing off" between blockers, more of a Zone scheme than a power scheme. Lynn simplified all that and went with strict power, beat the man in front of you, and the OL responded with a great game. This was Millers best game as a Pro as well, and I think that has to be because is was able to just play instead of think and play. The same thing went in pass pro, there was little to know breakdowns because of communication issues during passing off like there was with Roman. Obviously, this was the best game of the year for the OL, and thinking back to last year as well I cant think of many better from them last year as well.
Grade: A
WR/TE
One of the harder groups to talk about without looking at an All 22, but I will talk about a couple things I was able to notice from the TV Broadcast. I think Powell looks like he can be a solid No 3 WR this year, when all are healthy I would rather have him on the field than Salas, but that said I think his ceiling will be a Solid WR2 if he continues. I liked him since offseason. He has a wiggle that will create separation and has shown above AVG hands. There are some issues with his routes right now, but that will come. One play I can think of specifically was the Drive that ended in a FG, when he was running the slant and Woods was running a flag (great route Combo BTW). He rounded off his slant and instead of pushing that route to the goal-line he bent it inside too much running that slant to shallow, add that to the Jump (for no reason) there was no way he was getting in the endzone. That was not the only route I seen him round off either. Also I have to talk about Woods, I know he gets beat on a lot, however Shady does not rip off those Big Runs without Woods Blocking downfield. One of the Best Blocking WRs I have seen since Ward. As a group there was some drops from this unit, and Clay was also invisible again but I will talk about that a little later.
Grade: B-
RBs
This was another change with the new OC. Felton was playing a ton, and performed. He was very important in the success of the run game. Also for those that say Shady cannot excel in a power blocking scheme, well he can, his issue is he has to trust what he sees, and turn it up. He did bounce a couple times, but when he stays with the scheme and alley and hits that hole hard he can be gone. My issue with Shady though this week was the fumble (yes it didn't hurt us) but man the entire game he was asking for that, he really carries the ball loose and away from his body. Finally I think it is very telling that J. Williams and Gillislee had touches, who didn't Bush. I think it is time to move on from Bush and pick up another WR, now that Williams is healthy work with the Roster management and get another WR, specially when you have Watkins and Salas missing time. Nitpick time was the safety, I am not sure of that specific playcall, you are at the 1, sneak it a bit need more room, or at least have your power back on the field with Williams.
Grade B+ (downgraded because of how Shady had the ball out there for the taking all game).
QB
For those that don't like to read critique of Taylor skip this paragraph and move on. But I will end with some goods I saw from him. First going back to what I said in the WR/TE grouping about Clay being invisible. I have to wait until I see the All 22, but what I do know right now is Taylor had 5 (I was generous with two because they were crossing routes at the numbers that he threw right out of the break so I gave him credit here because they were middle breaking routes), NFL has him logged at 3 throws over the middle. Out of those 5 throws he attempted 0 over 10 yards. Why is that important because it is that area of the field that Clay works, just like any TE.) This is something not only I but the Bills have said he needs to improve on, which so far this year he has not. When you don't use this area of the field and only throw the alleys downfield when you don't hit those alleys you end up with a 3.8 YPA number (not sustainable in todays NFL). Ghost Pressure continues to effect him, there was 6 times I counted that Taylor reacted to pressure that was not there, and either rushed a throw, did not step into the pocket or just flushed. Again he still need to dramatically improve his pocket presence. Last thing on the bads is his mechanics, I just don't understand where this flat foot throws in the pocket have come from, they have sparked up ALOT this year compared to last, this mechanical breakdown makes him erratic in any NFL type throw, deep out specifically because he wont throw that 15 yard Dig.
But it wasn't all bad with Tyrod, yes his running is a weapon and he did look quicker in this game than he has the other two. However I would like to use that mobility to make a throw and less about his entire game. I would rather not have him 7-10 times on designed runs. But yes it is an asset. I Did not see him change a play at the line (like Lynn said he would), but that doesn't mean he wasn't reading the defense pre-snap better. I think he did improve there then in the last 2 weeks (still has a ways to go), but one play that sticks out to me is the same one I mentioned about with Powell. In the Redzone on third down you know that Flag, Slant route concept the 1st read is always the Flag (it was open by the way), but that wasn't a miss by Taylor. What happened at the line he knew what the protection scheme was, identified that he was going to have a free runner and adjusted his read so Powell (Slant) became the hot. It was open and he threw it accounting for the free rusher, that was exactly what you want your QB to do. Another play that I loved what I saw was late in the 4th QTR, the completion on the wheel route to O'Leary. What happened there, was he knew what the route was at the line of Scrimmage he knew it was going to be open, based off what he saw, so in his drop he didn't look at O'Leary instead eyes downfield at the safety, only moved those eyes late to find O'Leary and throw a perfect ball in stride to him. Those are what I want to seem more of from him, he shows he can do it at times, I want to see it consistent.
Grade: B-
Defense
DL
I think he have a very talented DL, and Kyle Williams just doesn't show any sign of him slowing down. I really can wait to see what this rotation does with Dareus and Shaq in it, but that is still weeks away. They were disruptive from jump, getting pressure on Carson even when they only rushed 3 and 4. Hughes is just unblockable on his twists and such. Seeing I am on Hughes, the dumb penalties I hate (taking Carsons Head off when he was already on the ground), but I can live with the trying to time snap penalties like his offside. I am not going to hate on him for that because that is one of his best assets that first step and like with Bruce in the 90s sometimes you are gonna guess wrong. However this group is night and day better than it was last season, I know it is early in this season but through 3 games they have played very well (except when Rex went into full blown rush 3 only mode like later in the game and seems like most of the Jets game). Very Happy with this group so far this year.
Grade: A
LB
A group that was the biggest question mark coming into the season, Preston was Bad last year, Ragland Hurt, LBers signed and cut etc. But through three games they have played very well. The Brown Brothers have not faltered in both their run fits or their pass responsibilities. I knew coming into season Zach was going to help that pass coverage side that is what he has been very good at, but man he has turned into a complete 3 Down LBers, meaning Spikes never needs to be on the field even in obvious run downs, and that is very good as it means you don't have to change personnel so much and can limit the communication mistakes. He logged 12 tackles and 10 solo. Preston has taken control of this defense and found his game again, the same game that During the year Kiko was it was realized Kiko was expendable. I know many, including myself, don't like the Rob Ryan hire, however he works with the LBers and cant deny that they are playing lights out right now.
Grade: A
DB:
Probably the group that needed a big game after the Jets game and they more than delivered and that being down Darby as well. This group held a very good vertical passing game that features Big WRs to 0 TDs and also gave the Bills 4 Picks. Casron was just over 50% completions and only had 5.74 YPA. There were a couple of drops by their WRs, however it seemed every throw was contested. This was a very good game and was needed because they were beaten down after the Jets game. Gilmore showed again that he really is the best CB on this team (does he deserve big money that is a different conversation for a different day). Also Corey Graham who I have been critical of came away with a big game as well.
However there were some bad plays, there were at least 3 dropped interceptions and the one that stands out the most to me was Robey's as that likely would have been a pick 6 and he knew it as well, which likely can to the reason for the pick going right through is hands.
Grade: A
STs
OOO Carp can we stop missing the XP, it obviously did not come back to hurt us, but man stop, and why is your alignment all the way on the hash during XP, it seems that is one of your issues.
And this was Schmidts worse game I have seen him as a Bills punting. I am not sure if there was a lot of wind or something but he didn't have a good game either.
Finally and last but not least Returns, it is Brandon Tate's job. I expect to see no one back there again unless he gets hurt, meaning say bye bye Reggie this was the reason you were signed and you lost that job.
Ok that is my thoughts on this game. Feel free to comment. I am always here for a discussion and to learn more about football.
Based on your shout box debacle, I can't take any analysis you say seriously as someone who actually knows what they are talking about. It was so absurd, that I actually see this entire post as just a back door way to "critique" Taylor more by disguising it as if you are giving analysis for the whole team.
And I don't care if someone critiques Taylor, all players deserve critique, all players can improve. But literally shredding him apart during a game where he and the offense were rolling while you were slamming him and just monopolizing the shout box (until I assume you got booted as I never saw you post again) for a negative Taylor agenda during a game that the rest of us were thrilled to be enjoying for the first time this year was ridiculous.
The shout box is bad enough during a game we are losing...but to being playing a great team game and have a bunch of whiners, complainers, etc with agendas spewing negative crap over and over is very annoying. I don't care if people disagree on a call, but literally no one cared to hear about your hatred for Taylor the entire game where the rest of us finally got to ENJOY a Bills game as FANS of this team.
You want to STILL complain about a player like Taylor after the game on the message boards, then so be it...but it's a duechey move to try and take over the shout box to prove you are right about your negativity of Taylor during our best offensive game of the year missing our starting offensive tackles and our #1 WR...not to mention all the dropped passes by the backup receivers and Goodwin getting hurt (shocker).
I get it when we are getting our butts kicked or a player is having a bad game, but even when we are in the midst of our best game of the season, a major upset, missing some of our best players on both sides of the ball, and have a new OC is just ridiculous.
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Sun night you can say 3 then the week after you can say 4. Hope we win a game by week 8 or you're gonna have to give it up.
2 Games ! Now we have 12% chance of playoffs because Tyrod pooped on himself in Baltimore.
So a QB has one bad game and his career is over? I have seen all the greatest QBs in the history of the NFL have atrocious games and many bad games to boot. And it was Taylors 15th game as a starter. Yet you cry for the same EJ you loathed last year when he was atrocious against one of the worst teams in football during his 0-2 stint as a starter. You literally make no sense when you talk about the QB position lately.
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Anyone know if Coughlin had any experience overseeing an entire organization? I know he's been a coach forever, but does he have any NFL FO experience?
I don't know, but I do know that previous coaches often don't make good GM's or football czars. The track record is poor...even the other great Giants coach was terrible at it. So not sure why anyone would be overly excited about this.
Be MUCH better choice to open up the vault and try to lure someone like Polian here who has a ton of experience doing that then a stubborn drills sergeant football coach who is as old as dirt (not that Polian is any younger lol).
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In other words you don't know one way or the other and you're assuming something based on what you believe to be standard operating procedure of other clubs. Understood.
Geezus christ...keep living in fantasy land. The fact this is still being talked about is ridiculous. Pegulas are very smart, successful, business people and sports franchise owners...they are not morons. But keep assuming they are as dumb as the majority of the conspiracy threads on this board. Just keep assuming that its not because of his job with the NFL that requires him to visit teams and that its really the Owners of a professional football team doing the single dumbest thing they could ever do as owners that has never ever happened in the history of the NFL a single time because that OBVIOUSLY makes more sense.
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How do you know that?
Maybe "safe assumption" is a better play here.
Not necessary.
Its 100% fact that no team in the NFL would ever bring in a potential replacement before a current person was fired. It will literally never ever happen. And they would not even bring him in for a new position that isn't currently staffed without making it clear to the public and to Rex, including involving Rex, to make sure there is no speculation about Rex's job over it. I mean we just fired the OC and Rex job security has been called into question. We are only 2 games into the season with enough turmoil, no owner is dumb enough to do that. Coaches would never work for an organization like that, at least not good ones.
Again, doesn't mean Pegulas didn't slip in a feeler or two if he was actually here. But if he was here, its 100% because of his job in the NFL that requires him to visit teams. Case Closed, there is literally nothing to speculate no matter how bad some of you want it to be true he was here for a job.
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Should the Bills offence look like it has looked, and the even worse Defense continues to show it can't carry the team either ...... Provided he is fully healthy, is it time to throw Cardale Jones out there for the rest of the season to see what the Bills have in him (after 0-5, 0-6) ?????
Reasoning: If the record is going to put us in the top five of the draft, there will be tremendous pressure to draft a QB higher than unidentified QB should be drafted. If Cardale proves capable, it would take that pressure off.
Thoughts?
Is this a real question or are you trolling?
1. Taylor has just 16 games on his resume.
2. Taylor made the Pro Bowl last year.
3. They just gave Taylor a new contract, it 100% his team this year to prove himself considering the contract has favorable outs if he doesn't improve.
4. Cardale is NOT ready to play in the NFL.
5. Cardale is NOT ready to even play in college as a starter, hence why he lost his starting job.
6. EJ > Cardale by light years right now, and thats not an endorsement of EJ, thats how far away Cardale is. He is a project with upside, not an NFL ready QB.
7. This staff wants to win at all costs, they are NOT going to throw away the season this early.
8. This staff, FO, and Owners want to see if Taylor can continue to progress and they will give him time.
9. The change at OC is literally going to buy everyone more time as they will be assumed they need to adjust.
I mean I can go on and on and on about how unplausible this idea is. I can't imagine anyone would actually think this is a good idea, let alone plausible. Cardale is more likely to get cut then to start a game this year, and he is NOT going to get cut.
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So 100% fact ... not so much.
No I said its 100% fact that he would not be there for a job with the Bills assuming he was actually there. If he was there, then its 100% because of his job with the NFL, not for a job for a Bills position that isn't currently open.
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So he was at the stadium? When?
Not sure, I am just assuming he was if multiple people saw him per this thread says. But he works for the NFL and visits teams...that would be the ONLY reason he could have been at OBD, that was the point. I don't even know if it was confirmed he was there or not.
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1. Coughlin meets with multiple teams as part of his job with the NFL.
2. No team, not the Bills/Pegulas, or any other organization no matter how bad the situation or coaching issues will ever bring in a potential replacement into the building before they have ever fired their existing staff. Will not ever happen.
This is nothing outside of his job for the NFL and doing a standard visit. Doesn't mean the Pegulas wouldn't throw in a "what if" question or two, but he was not here to potentially become the next HC or for any other job inside the Bills organization, and that is 100% fact. Doesn't mean they didn't take the opportunity to throw some feelers out, but that was not by any means the purpose of his visit.
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Again players are complaining they can not comprehend a playbook, this year it is Offense, last year it was Defense. Did they all fail the wonderlic? Why are all these guys unable to comprehend what the coaches are doing? Are we the only team that needs to make things vanilla for our players? Are the coaches unable to convey to the players what they want properly? I don't get it.
Well about damn time...Romans over complicating simple possessions like 3rd and 1 into gimmick plays, long bombs, etc was absurd. Thats how you lose football games...go get the damn 1st down, don't get cute or try and out smart them...just get the damn first down and extend the drive. I have never been so mad at an OC since Hackett was here like I was on Thursday night. Its like these coordinators are more concerned looking like a genius than they are of getting the first down.
Reminded me of that Poker player who calls on the River with very little in his hand because he wants to make the "Hero" call and be right...except he almost always wrong, behind, and loses are for the sake of that one time of getting the glory when it rarely works.
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18 games dude.
18 games for who? If you're referencing Taylor, its 16, he missed 2 games last which we lost without him.
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All respect, Alpha, I just don't buy this line of reasoning. Scoring fast is GOOD. Blaming the O for scoring efficiently is cray-cray. See: K-Gun. The D spent 8:19 on the field before the O even touched the ball.
The D controls its own fate, always. All they have to do is get the stop and hand the ball back to the O. If the O goes 3 and out, rinse and repeat.
The D looked bad. They made Fitz look like Brees or Brady. Ain't that some sh**.
No worries, respect your post...here is my reply.
Ok, you referenced the K-Gun offense...that defense is not this defense for one. Second, this defense is missing 4 key starters, including its best player and is super thin. Third, that defense during the K-Gun was conditioned for being on the field longer because they played with that hurry up offense for so long.
So, its not a situation where everything is equal. And I didn't blame the defensive woes only on the offense, the D was terrible and it was like we had no safeties on the field...but its also foolish to ignore how long the D was on the field. Its known facts that the D is at a disadvantage when on the field for long stretches at a time compared to the opposing offense. I mean this isn't even debatable, you can ask as many players, coaches, GMs etc as you want and you will get a 100% yes every time on that.
And it wasn't the scoring plays, it was also 3 and outs on the other drives. The D, which was very thin already, was on the filed the majority of the first half. They did not get a real break until the final drive of the half that the Bills finally sustained that took them into half time.
Sustained offensive drives kill the momentum of the opposing offense, limits their number of possessions, etc. To say the offense doesn't affect the defense just isn't factually correct. Sure the D still needs to do their job, needs to make plays, and ultimately is responsible for getting off the field. However, the offense made their job a LOT harder on Thursday and in a game where the opposing offense is red hot and tearing our D apart, our own offense needs to figure out how to make first downs and get them rest and limit how many times the opponents offense is going to get the ball.
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It is clear we need a "franchise" QB, or at least not a "backup" playing starter. Here is my suggestion:
1. Get Bradford on a 2-3 year deal. He showed last night that he is a baller when healthy, and Diggs has a similar game to Watkins. He has a 17 million cap-hit next year. If Teddy is healthy I see the Vikings cutting him.
2. Draft Kelly. He can learn behind Bradford for a few years.
3. Keep Jones as the 3rd string QB.
Cut TT and Manuel. (well, try to trade them, but that may not work. Unless Chip Kelly thinks TT is his answer).
OH COME ON! This board SLAMMMMMMMMEEEEEDDDDDD and MOCCCCKKKKEEDDDD the Vikings for trading for Bradford. The guy comes into one game and has a good game and now he's also our savior? How many QBs that this board previously hated are now are saviors? Lets see, I have heard EJ, Bradford, bring Fitz back, even Mike Glennon. Just ridiculous.
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SDS ran out of storage for last year's excuses, so please put 2016's here.
So far Kim Jung QB is 0-2. There were 5 defensive or special teams touchdowns in the entire league yesterday. 40% of them were gifts from the impervious one.
Luck might be the most over rated QB I have ever seen in my life. That does NOT mean he is a bad QB, I am saying he is so freaking over rated. He has an atrocious post season performance record, and I don't mean just win/loss. I mean he has more turnovers than Touchdowns, that his play greatly drops off, is rating is terrible, etc. Luck complies big stats in the regular season off his weak division and then gets crushed by good defenses.
He just doesn't make good decisions. Is he a starting QB, absolutely. Is he a good QB, absolutely. Is he a great QB...not a chance, at least not yet. He is anointed as if he's the best QB in the league by people yet he's never been close. Colts won more games with-OUT hm last year than WITH him. He is a turnover machine.
Hes a guy who actually gets more stats because of his mistakes. His turnovers put them behind often and they have to keep throwing his way back into the game. Defenses soften up later in the game and he gets late game scores while down multiple scores.
If Luck can figure out how to not make so many bad decisions and reign in his turnovers, he could be special. Until then, he is Jeff George part 2. Jeff was one of the most gifted passers in the game during his time, but his achilles heal was always mental and poor decision making. When I watch Luck, I see Jeff George with the ability to also run. I see a guy living on his draft hype still of being the greatest prospect since Manning but isn't living up to it. I see a guy who regressed last year and hasn't shown any growth as a passer over last 2 years. I see a guy who's personal performance plummets in the post season.
I don't see the highest paid QB ever or a guy who deserves it. I don't see a HOF player by any means. I don't see the guy everyone tells me he is.
Doesn't mean he wont get there, but right now he is no where near what the fantasy football GM's tell me he is because he scores for them in Fantasy.
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Assuming that Rex Ryan is gone, here is a list of potential HC's I can think of. Feel free to add others. They are in no particular order. Although my top two likely would be Patricia and Bevell.
(1) Keith Butler: Steelers DC: The Steelers D has continued to be fantastic despite mediocre players in the secondary and up-front.
(2) Matt Patricia: Pats** DC. The Pats D funnels players in and out, doesn't matter, the D always seems to come up big when needed. Seems like a guy who puts his players in a position to win. He also has experience on the offensive side of the ball at the college level (OL player at RPI); O-line coach at SU and with the Pats**.
(3) Darrell Bevell: Seattle OC. Interviewed with Bills before they hired Rex. Great OC.
(4) Jim Schwartz: Philly DC. Outstanding D coach. Would need great OC.
I do not think Rex is going to get fired during the season, but you never know. So I will chime in just in case.
Jim Schwartz was a terrible HC, so please no Schwartz. Man I would love to have him back as our DC, but he was a train wreck as a HC and we might as well stay with Rex in that case.
I do like Bevell and feel like there are similarities in our offensive personnel and Seattle's. Style of QB, prefer to run more than throw, questionable WR group, under performing TE.
I know some disagree, but I think Cower is a great fit for this team. This is a team suited for how he wants to play, I think he would get a lot out of the players.
Another guy I wouldn't normally want, but I think is someone this team could use is Coughlin...simply on discipline alone.
I forget his name, but what the OC accomplished in Carolina last year was incredible, especially with so little talent outside of Cam and Olsen on the offense. He would be high on my list and he is experienced with Mobile QB's.
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Here is the truth about the game last night:
1. Defense was bad. To be fair, it was missing its most talented player and 3 other expected week 1 starters. It was also facing a ton of pressure having to be on the field for a ridiculous amounts of time because the offense left the field quickly in the first half from either quick score or a unsustained drives. At the same time, the scheme itself looked bad, I mean it was like the safeties were ghosts out there. Hard to say how much of that had to do from the missing personnel and getting wore out never getting off the field, but overall, the secondary was torn apart and was frequently in bad position.
2. Offense was more bad than good. Offense had a few bright spots, and we got a couple scores in those few bright spots. However, overall, the play calling was utterly atrocious, the effort from some of the guys TT threw too was piss poor (Clay I am still furious over that 3rd down where you ran your route straight out of bounds and didn't even look for the ball TT threw right into your butt that you should have caught for a first), and TT more often than not looked uncomfortable and didn't see multiple opportunities or flat our missed them.
The team did battle back, but that battle back was more built around a couple of big plays rather than a consistent team making plays.
Overall, I havent been that disgusted with an OC since that POS Hacket was here. I mean throwing bombs on 3rd and 1 or getting too cute on 3rd and 1 all game long is how you lose football games and put even more pressure on your D. His run schemes are terrible too and he has no clue how to get the most out of McCoy. Any OC who isn't getting a min of 10 attempts to Sammy and 10 to Clay every game shouldn't be coaching as those are our only 2 real receiving weapons. Woods is a 3rd string WR at best who never seems to keep his feet. Goodwin is a deep threat specialist with the talent to be more but the body who can't be more because he can't take the hits. So if you aren't throwing 10 times a game to Clay and Sammy then you need your head examined as an OC. Not to mention, Roman seems to have no idea how to actually run plays for those guys when he does.
I gave Roman credit last year, but man he has been bad this year. All the things he did last year that irked me have become the norm this year. At least last year, there were a lot of other positives to over shadow the dumb calls.
PS: This team misses Karlos Williams...a lot. McCoy is NOT a power back. Hopefully Williams can come in and fill some of those shoes.
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I would be all for Cower because this team is built for him IMO and I think it would be a good fit. I do think Cower wouldn't fit in everywhere, but I do think this would be a good fit.
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Posted · Edited by Alphadawg7
This is literally how dumb this thread is and how dumb your response is...why, because you must not be able to read or do math for you to write me that right now.
They LOST the tie breaker at 11 WINS. You say because they had TOO MANY WINS against NFC teams. I don't need to look it up, I will take you word for it because it doesn't matter if that is true or not.
If they had lost ONE MORE game to the NFC, which in YOUR argument is better, then guess what Einstein...they have TEN wins instead of ELEVEN...and guess what, they are NOT tied for a playoff birth and are already OUT of the playoffs and are NOT worried about tie breakers because they didn't win enough games to even have a chance at a tie breaker.
So again...go away with this theory, its as dumb as the trade Mario for Skelton thread...actually its dumber than that thread.
*Drops Mic* and waves bye to ieatcrayonz