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Detroit is building a team the right way...Its pretty sad that the Detroit Lions have passed the Buffalo Bills in NFL respectability.
Ridiculous rookie running
Detroit rookie running back JAHVID BEST rushed for 78 yards and two touchdowns and caught nine passes for 154 yards and one TD in the Lions’ 35-32 loss to Philadelphia. He is the first rookie in NFL history with at least 75 rushing yards, 150 receiving yards and three touchdowns in a single game. Best is the first player to accomplish the feat since 1981 (JOE CRIBBS). In his first two career games, Best has scored five touchdowns. He is the first rookie to score five touchdowns in his first two career games since BILLY SIMS in 1980. Best’s 154 receiving yards are the most by a rookie running back in the Super Bowl era.
"CJ can run with his blazing speed. CJ can catch. CJ can return. CJ will win Rookie of the Year!"
LOL...what a joke...HEY PEOPLE...CJ AND THE DECISION TO DRAFT HIM SUCKS!
Your first thread on this was already stupid enough, starting the identical thread again on the same day under a slightly different name is even worse. "you literally are too stupid to insult" quote comes to mind...
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Funny that Trent has 32 career Starts while Fitz has onl 23 career starts and yet they talk about Fitz's "experience as a starter". Maybe it needs to be qualified as "winning experience as a starter". I'm not critical of the move -- I like the move. I just find it interesting that people think Fitz has all this past starting experience when he really does not.
I think the experience quote had more to do with why he went with Fitz over Brohm, not about Trent
Ok i know Edwards sucks. But so does Fitz. In fact, Gailey/Nix determined this whole offseason/training camp/preseason that Edwards was actually better than Fitz, which is why he was the un-questioned starter going into the season. Now they want to start Fitz? I really think this shows a lack in intelligence by Gailey/Nix. How could they not see this from a mile away? Edwards has sucked for a long time. Fitz is going to suck too. Yet they completely avoiding draft/signing any QB. At least Brohm hasnt proven he sucks (yet). Play Brohm already!
I agree with what you are saying completely, but I think the reason they arent turning to Brohm yet is that they are hoping to try and establish some kind of offense before they throw him out there. This is a new staff and a new system for everyone, and I think they want to try and get the whole team a little more settled before risking Brohm back there...
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Hmm interesting take, hadnt viewed it that way... Let Fitz fail for 2 weeks as well and then Brohm will be an easy sell to the team kinda strategy...
Not so much that as much as this offense, including the staff, has no identity of any kind other than suck. I think that they want to try and find some rhythm of some kind to build on before they move to Brohm. Not saying it will work, but I think they want more time to try and tinker with personell and packages before they will feel better about giving Brohm a shot back there. I think they are worried about shell shocking the kid too...the thing he initially struggled with was the speed of the game, and right now our whole offense seems to be struggling with that. So better to try and calm down the offense rather than risk Brohms confidence out there right now...
I could be wrong, but a lot of what Chan said plus the fact that they chose to keep him on the active roster when we have so many holes seems to suggest this to me.
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CJ Spiller - 8 rushes for 9 yards...8 catches for 31 yards...ZERO TOTAL TOUCHDOWNS IN 2 GAMES!
Jahvid Best - 31 carries for 91 yards...14 catches for 170 yards...FOUR TOTAL TOUCHDOWNS IN 2 GAMES!
Even Dexter McCluster would have been a better choice for our team, later in the draft!
http://www.nfl.com/partner/story?id=09000d5d81a8598d&partnerType=rookies
Now I have seen it all...the stupidity of some of the post on this wall still surprisingly shock me...
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When addressing the media about the switch to Fitz, he said a couple of telling things I felt that could be an indication of why Fitz over Trent, why him over Brohm, and whether they still see Brohm in their plans.
He was asked if this was for one game or permanent...he answers:
"No, this is a move going forward"...then pauses and says a few um's with this telling next quote: "um...for...however long we go this direction..."
That was a commitment to him followed by a quick back door out...That right there tells me that there that Brohm can and will see the field if Fitz struggles to spark the offense as well. Clearly, they wouldnt go back to Trent if Fitz fails too establish any sort of offensive rhythm based on those comments and the fact they benched him as a permanent move.
He then is asked about what he thinks about Chans starting experience and if he can maybe calm things down a little bit because of it...in Chans answer to this question, he says the following:
"Hopefully with his experience as a starter, he will be able to go in there and it not be too fast for him...he will be able to handle what we are trying to do offensively and see if we can get some momentum."
This statement is probably the reason why Trent was benched and why Fitz is going to start right now and not Brohm. This team has no flow of any kind and we really dont have any kind of established game plan either. He is looking for someone experienced to help establish some sort of offense before he will consider going to someone with no real NFL game experience in Brohm. Throwing Brohm into an offense with literally zero identity would be a tall task for a guy with 1 game under his belt.
All in all, I could be wrong, but his press conference to me says a lot more than the depth chart does. I suspect that they feel it would be a mistake to throw a green young QB into this mess right now and would be setting him up to fail. I honestly dont believe him being 3rd is about his talent/potential in comparison to the other 2, as much as it is about the state of this offense and his lack of experience.
I think there is a strong possibility that Brohm could see the field after the bye week unless Fitz comes out and does well to win us games.
Just my 2 cents...
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Not even going to read this thread because there is literally not one logical reason to not start Brohm, or even Fitz, at this point. I mean, its pretty clear we are rebuilding, so keeping Trent out there, who is clearly NOT a starter in the NFL does absoulutely NOTHING to advance the development of this rebuilding process.
Trent has played his way out of his job, so lets give the one guy on our roster with any hope of upside/future a shot with our starters and see if he can spark the offense. There is no way he could actually be worse as Trent barely has 200 yards over 2 games, 1 TD, and 2 official INT's even though he threw 2 more against Mia that hit their DB's right in the hands and just flat out dropped saving Trents azz.
Makes way more sense to try and develop our player with upside then trot our this joke of a QB named Trent...
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The Offensive Line was even more pathetic this week than last week, and to be honest I wasn't sure that was possible. We will have the Edwards Haters Club full of idiots (like Benjamin Button) who will try to blame it all on the QB but that will just be a display of their ignorance. He had no time at all today, then on the few plays when he was given time, the recievers would drop the ball. The first three pass plays were two sacks and a ball that hit Fred Jackson in the hands and he didn't catch it (same as the first pass last week-is there a pattern here?). Even the announcers stated that is doesn't matter who the quarterback is, if they don't block or catch the ball the QB won't be successful. Now don't get me wrong, I am not saying Edwards is the future of this team, maybe his is, maybe he isn't, but it really makes you sick the people on TBD that don't know football and blame everything on the QB. He didn't throw a single interception today (or this year for that matter) that was his fault. Johnson should have caught the one that hit his hands and the other one Parrish should have caught and not handed off to the defender. This team has alot of weaknesses, but none as glaring as this O-Line, which the team ignored during the draft and off season this year-at least as far as bringing in quality and not some other teams garbage. Before the season started most predictors said we were one of the worst two teams in the NFL, along with Tampa Bay. They are now 2-0 and we are 0-2 and not even competitive, so it is really tough to argue that we are the worst team in the NFL.
hahaha...it just never stops on this board...
No one is claiming the O Line to be any good, but geezus dude if you cant see that Trent is not an NFL caliber QB then maybe you should start watching another sport. The O Line is not at all good, but Trent is worse and actually makes the O Line even worse and the run game suffer. Trent is literally a cancer to this offense eating it up from the inside.
The best part is that Trent has not been good in college or the pros...but keep making excuses for him, I am sure he appreciates the comfort.
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Seriously, I cant think of a single time on 3rd and long this season that Trent has thrown a pass longer than 4 yards...I mean literally, not even trying to be an ass. And there have been at least a dozen 3rd and longs...and all have been check downs to a RB or someone else very short.
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I love that the game is starting with an announcer dropping this one....
"Come on...Trent Edwards, time to be a big boy and put on the big boy pants and play QB and try and push the ball down the field. Enough with this checking the ball, get it to Lee Evans downfield."
This had me rolling!
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What if Trent Edwards plays like a stink bomb today? Will Gailey have the balls to bench him for another QB? I can visualize lots of pressure on Edwards today by the Packers D line. It's going to be interesting to see what and how Gailey will handle this.
If Trent has another game resembling last week, then I think there will be internal talk of a change, but ultimately they will give him until week 3 or 4 before they pull the hook on him.
Although, Chan strikes me as a no BS kind of guy, so it wouldnt surprise me to see Trent get yanked at half time if he passes for less than 50 yards again in the first, something he is very prone to do. Trent has frequently been atrocious in the vast majority of his games during the first half. Even in our 4-0 start the difference in his first half and 2nd half rating was something rediculous like 60 points better in the second half over those 4 games. He is a notriously terrible first half player. Sadly, he isnt consistently good in the 2nd half either, just even worse in the first half.
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Dear Trent,
This is akward...while I appreciated your support initially, its just starting to get embarrassing to be associated with you. Please keep my name out of your mouth, and I will do the same. Its for the best, nothing personal, but with all my success its just not in my best interest to have my name associated with you anymore. I hope you understand, and thanks for all of your work on my fan club, but unfortunately your services will no longer be needed. I'd wish ya luck, but honestly, I am not even sure you would know what to do with it anymore...
Sincerely,
Dakota
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Take the holding penalties away and in my opinion we could have won the game, make the correct call on Lee Evans long ball, in my opinion we could have won the game.
Not throwing the ball up for grabs on a hail Mary didn't make a bit of difference in the world, Gailey called TE aside on the last series and it wouldn't surprise me a bit if he said "Trent, don't give folks the added ammunition to make you look bad" and that's exactly what INT's do when folks look back at the stats.
Think folks care how the INT happened two weeks from now, no, but folks including the media will sure use the stat against Trent Edwards in an effort to prove how bad he is.
This might be the most rediculous thing I have ever read...There isnt a coach of any level of football from Pop Warner, XFL, UFL, NFL, College, etc that would ever in a million years say this to their starting QB. I will bet every dollar I have in life now and for the rest of my life that this is not what Gailey said to Trent.
Come on man, you just cant help yourself can you? You will do anything to defend him, even make up rediculous things to validate Trent like when you said you beleived he had a second concussion that year despite no evidence, no reports, no whispers, no rumors, nothing...just a phantom concussion you had hoped he had to validate is atrocious play during that 1-7 run to end the year.
If you dont want to get blasted around here, then I suggest you stop inventing things like this that have literally no evidence what so ever to exist just to validate Trents awful performances. Its one thing to support your boy and to argue things like the O Line (which IMO still isnt a good enough excuse for the pussification of the QB position that Trent has mastered), its a whole other game to invent things. Just my 2 cents...
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Dear Trent,
Go away.
Signed,
Lee Evans
Hahaha, this had me rolling
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The NFL and the players union have agreed that Jackson can play in Week 5 if he's traded by next Wednesday. The agreement helps clear the way for Jackson to be traded, provided the Chargers can agree to terms with another team. The agreement essentially rolls what could have been a six-game suspension into four games. Jackson currently is serving a three-game NFL suspension for violating the league's substance abuse policy. Additionally, the Chargers placed him on the roster exempt list, meaning he'd be suspended for three games once he signed with San Diego. Jackson's side felt he shouldn't have to serve that suspension if he was traded.
WHY WOULDN'T WE PICK HIM UP???????? PAY THAT MAN HIS MONEY!
Is he a quarterback? I dont care if we had Rice, Moss, and our beloved Andre Reed all in their primes with Trent at QB, he still wouldnt be able to get it done. He just doesnt have the capability to make plays...been proven over and over and over again...
Que excuse makers in 3, 2, 1...
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should i trade brady for flacco and mojo
Yes
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Are you people serious? This board cracks me up. What do you expect him to say? "Gee, I hope we can go 9-7 and squeek into the playoffs"...I mean really.
This board needs a reality check as the pussification of this team by players like Trent who dont seem to believe they are going to win each week and dont have the balls to make plays has warped your minds. So here goes, consider it a courteous wake up slap to the face...
IF YOU DONT THINK YOU ARE GOING TO WIN EACH AND EVERY GAME YOU PLAY, YOU NOT ONLY WONT WIN MUCH, BUT YOU DONT BELONG IN THE NFL OR ANY SPORT FOR THAT MATTER. (I am not capitalizing to yell, but to emphasize)
That goes for the coach, players, GM, owners, etc. If you dont believe that you are going to beat your foes each time you step on the field, then dont step on the field. Whether or not he will be an good NFL QB is yet to be seen and too early to tell, but at least the kid believes in his teammates, his coaches, and himself.
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I realize we're all busy talking about how much Trent sucks and how bad a QB is but lets not overlook the dismal effort yesterday on the ground.
We had FIFTY FREAKING YARDS rushing the ball. Our QB had twice as many yards rushing as our starting running back who also happened to be our #1 draft pick. That my friends is just dismal.
We can survive a season with Edwards being a dismal QB, we can't survive if we can't gain more that fifty measly freaking yards on the ground.
You answered your own question in your thread title...The passing game literally did not exist on any level. With ZERO threat of a pass beyond 5 yards, its pretty easy to stop the run. I cant understand why that is so difficult for people to understand who seem to claim to know about football (not directed at you).
I sat here watching the game with my friend who was a Dolphin fan. I literally sat here and told him pre snap that the ball would not travel in the air more than "x" number of yards (or not at all) on many different plays, mostly our 3rd and long, 2nd and long, etc plays. I never chose a distance longer than 7 measly yards...my range on calls was from 4 to 7 yards and on every one of them the team needed at min 10 yards for a first.
Guess how many times I was wrong? Once...and it was the Roscoe TD.
When your QB plays like that, I promise you that you wont be finding many running lanes as there will be 9 up front to stop the run and short pass. There is literally not a single QB in the NFL that is easier to defend than Trent. I challenge someone to please find a starting QB in the league right now easier to defend than Trent...just one.
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Funny how not one person in this entire thread has debated this statement...nor should they.
Yes, there were times Edwards was pressured, but this kid just sees pressure even when it's not there. He refuses to step up in the pocket (there were plenty of times he had one) and thus creates pressure with his lack of awareness.
I was impressed by Trent in the pre-season, and really want to give him a chance...watching him yesterday, he looked like the concept of stepping up is totally foreign to him. I'm sorry, but that's not on the line or the coaching.
+1000
Seriously, its like people dont even watch the game...Yes our O Line sucks, but Trent sucks more and a better QB could do a LOT more with this exact offense. I am not even going to address the grossly exaggerated comments about Lee Evans by the OP, not worth the time...
What I find the most funny about posts in this thread and some others is how people are blaming the lack of a run game as why Trent struggled. NEWS FLASH: When you can not complete pass more than 5 yards down field, you wont run the ball either as they are going to stack 9 upfront and shut down the run. Trent is no where close to being an NFL caliber QB and there is no excuses anymore.
I swear, a High School team could defend a Trent led offense...
This guy missed OPEN recievers all day, including a WIDE open Stevie down the seam who would have caught the ball and walked into the endzone where Trent had plenty of time throw. Instead he threw what was essentially a pick 6 but the DB dropped, one of two pick sixes he threw that the DB's flat out dropped right in their hands. Of course, the pick 6 pass was another 6 yard pass to the sideline.
I have never in my life on any level of football seen a guy throw so many passes BEHIND or at the line of scrimmage.
Wake up call: In Trents 3 years we have had 3 offensive coordinators, 2 HC's, and multiple QB Coaches and yet he still cant seem to pass the ball more than 5 yards in the air, refuses to throw it down field on 3rd and long, doesnt even throw the ball with the game on the line and 30 seconds left, etc...the ONLY common denominator in all of that is Trent Edwards...
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I was dumb enough to wear my Trent jersey today while watching the game with my friend who is a Dolphins fan...I couldnt take it anymore and had to take it off at half time, the suckitude of the jersey was starting to burn my skin.
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Please delete if a repost
Go Bills!
People are going to get their panties in a wad over this...but let me tell you something, if the Dolphins need material like this to get up for a Week 1 game, then they never had a chance to begin with. This tweet isnt going to have a single impact on the game, those guys are going to be as pumped and ready to go either way.
People over react to this stuff all the time. Its not like they were going to be taking us lightly and all of a sudden now they are going to bring it. These are professional athletes, their competitive drive was in full gear already to play a division rival. This is not even remotely close to important for the out come of this game, so everyone should just calm down.
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Dolphins game?
I said 1 this week in that post...
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I am going with 2.5
How about you?
This week or this year? Going to answer both since I dont know what you are asking exactly...
Week 1: 1 this week
Season: 10 - I think he will surprise some people and I am going to be optimistic and go out on a limb with 10 as I think thats all he is going to do is rush the QB most of the time he is out there. He may not be much of a factor in the rest of the D, but I think he showed enough speed and potential for me to be optimistic on 10 assuming he gets the necessary playing time.
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Well at least someone has a touch of honesty around here.
Have any of you people that are ripping me even been to a Bills game? Do you understand the mentality of the crazed fan? If someone on the opposing team gets lit up, people are cheering like crazy. Some people clap half heartedly when he gets up as some show of "sportsmanship".
I was at the Ralph in the stands when news of the Brady knee started hitting people's cell phones. The news spread like wildfire and fans were literally cheering and high fiving like crazy over the news.
Also, do you comprehend that multiple players suffer injuries in EVERY SINGLE NFL GAME THAT IS PLAYED?
btw I'm not a troll, I'm a longtime season ticket holder.
You want honesty...I was actually a little bummed out when Brady got hurt and had a hard time even watching the footage. As a fan of football and him coming off such a historical season, I felt bad for him and for the league. I know people who have had that injury and never made it back. I know how painful that injury is and the kind of intense rehab needed to have a chance at a full recovery. Its not something I would cheer for or wish on anyone.
I want to beat the Pats as much as anyone, but not that way. And as big of a fan of the Bills that I am, I am an even bigger fan of football and to see one of its greatest players go down in the opening moments of week 1 is not what I wanted to see nor something I was happy about.
Get this through your head...OTHER TEAMS PLAYERS NOT PLAYING DOES NOT MAKE OUR TEAM BETTER, we are still the same team. This thread should be titled "Things Losers Say" in an attempt to promote your book tour.
State of the union...
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Seriously, you would think that nothing would surprise me on this board anymore, however, the drama queen reactions to every little thing still does. What happened the first 2 weeks and this week are neccessary to the growth of this team. So, lets run a state of the union address as to why and how its good for the Bills.
1. Chan Gailey: I have to give Chan credit. He came in here and said he was going to throw out everything from past seasons and give everyone a clean slate to win a starting job, including the QB's. He did just that and Trent is clear proof of that. This staff had no previous experience with these guys, so what they did in the old systems was irrelevant. Trent clearly emerged in practice and in a couple games in preseason, so you cant fault Chan for giving him first crack at it. That being said, Chan also quickly yanked him out when he realized that Trents past problems during real games wasnt just the old system and coaching, its Trent, and he yanked him now rather than mess around trying to fix what cant be fixed. Big KUDOS to Chan on this.
2. Edwards benched: This is the best move of the entire offseason and young regular season. This staff and the FO wanted to see if Trents issues were the circumstances or Trent. It didn't take long for Trents camp and preseason smoke screen to evaporate, and finally we can move on from his pussification and retardation of this offense. Is Fitz the answer, highly unlikely, but Trent completely cripples this offense.
3. We are 0-2: If anyone truly believed we were going to be a good team THIS year, then they were kidding themselves from the get go. Being 2-0 right now was never going to happen, 1-1 we had a shot at (thanks Trent) but no one can honestly say they thought we would beat the Packers who are substantially more talented than this team with an Elite QB.
4. 2010 Season: This IS, and ALWAYS has been, a REBUILDING year and a year for THIS staff to familiarize themselves with the players and evaluate our team going forward. Like many, I felt this team could surprise, but most of us knew that for that to happen a QB would have to emerge, otherwise we would be looking at a top 10 pick.
5. The QB's: Trent starting and failing was the best thing for this team as it leaves no question anymore. Now Fitz is up, and I love that Chan said this is a move going forward, but quickly follows that up with "for as long as we go in this direction." Clearly, if Fitz cant get it done he isnt afraid of going to Brohm. Again, another vote of confidence for me on Chan...This is exactly what this team needs, a coach who will not tolerate poor play and isnt going to hesitate to make changes.
6. Fitv vs Brohm: Why are people confused about this? Chan stated in his press conference that he is hoping Fitz's experience can help slow things down and spark the offense. Throwing an inexperienced prospect into this CHAOS right now would be just scary and could risk setting his development back. The offenses ineptness has left this staff crippled and unable to even establish a game plan.
7. The Spiller pick: Anyone who thinks Spiller isnt going to be a special player just hasnt been paying attention. This kid has a very bright future, and to ignore his talents because of the first 2 games where Trents ineffectiveness completely shut our offense down is just rediculous.
8. Lynch starting week 2: First, why do people care? We all agreed we had 3 starting RB's, so why is it good or bad that Fred starts, Lynch starts, or Spiller starts? They are all going to get touches, and we all knew this. So why are people over reacting to Chan trying to tinker with the rotation to find some flow? And if it was to showcase Lynch, then even better, as trading him would leave us with 2 good RB's still and would give us more talent elsewhere and/or draft picks to add more talent.
All in all, I think Chan is still the right guy and doing the right things for this team right now. Just my 2 cents...