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The stat actually according to Dan Orlovsky was it has happened only twice, and both times its been Allen. He is the only person to do it and its happened twice.

Some of you quickly forget that our defense was a big reason we won several games this year in which Floyd was a big part of. There is a legit chance we don't make the playoffs without Floyd, especially given all the other injuries on D. And I was one who wanted DHop too, but to disregard Floyd as if he wasn't needed is crazy to me when we had plenty of weapons in this loss to KC. Diggs, a player graded higher than DHop in every way right now, dropped a 70 yard dime by Allen. How does DHop change that? He wouldn't have even gotten to the ball 70 yards down field. Not to mention Shakir was the best WR on the field and didn't drop a ball and made play after play and would have had the go ahead TD had Dawkins not gotten shoved towards Allen to where he stepped on his foot while Allen was throwing the ball. So yeah, no I don't see who DHop wins this game for us. We lost because the OLine didn;t hold on the go ahead TD...we lost because Diggs dropped a pass that never would have been thrown to DHop 73 yards down field. We lost because our kicker shanked a kick bad. We lost for a lot of reasons...none of which DHop changes.

Sorry, but this isn't even a debate. You DO NOT pass up a TD to go up 4 points with under 2 minutes left in the game. No coach in the NFL would do that. For what? A short throw to Diggs that may not have even gotten the first down? Then what? Risk settling on a FG with time on the clock for Mahomes to go win the game on a FG vs needing to get a TD? There is no scenario ever where Josh should pass up on the TD strike to Shakir. Its unfortunate that Dawkins stepped on Josh's foot on the throw or that is a TD all day. Doesn't make it the wrong choice. It would be different if a FG puts us up 3 and a chance to win the game, but it only ties the game. And that means you risk Mahomes who has TWICE gotten a FG on us in 13 seconds and 12 seconds (end of half last year reg season) wining the game outright in regulation if there is any time left or risk losing in OT. You 100% take the TD and make KC have to go the whole field in under 2 min for a TD to try and win. How this is even being debated today is mind blowing to me honestly, especially given that throw to Diggs was no guarantee to even get to him nor would he have likely even gotten a first. More like a 4 to 6 yard game is most likely bringing up something between 3rd and 3 to 5 yards.

No, he had a great QB in Philly. McNabb was a top tier QB and has a case for being the QB who got the most out of the least outside of Tom Brady. McNabb was saddled almost his whole career with trash to throw to and still was one of the best QBs in the NFL most of his career. Reid still couldn’t get over the hump nor did that organization ever properly get McNabb better weapons.

Injuries were very much a factor. There is no denying that. Doesn't mean it’s an excuse for McD, but it is factual that injuries hit us hard. We still had opportunities to win the game so it’s not an excuse, but let’s not pretend the injuries didn’t impact us. KC attacked and exploited our depleted LBs all game.

Disagree. Best WR on the field last night on either team was Shakir and he doesn’t get those opportunities if Davis plays. Shakir was wide open on the 2nd and 9 in the endzone for the go ahead TD but Josh Allen had his foot stepped on by Dawkins and kept him from having his legs in the throw.

BPA - At 28 it’s pretty hard to know what kind of players will be there and we have needs across the board. We need talent, so they can’t pigeon hole a position and take a lesser prospect because that position was targeted or prioritized. So this pick could be a number of positions such as (in no particular order) WR, S, CB, DT, LB, OL. However, I think it’s fair that WR is going to be high on the priority list and may be the only position they would trade up for if there is a difference making prospect available. But outside of that, between our cap position and needs, I have a hard time seeing Beane use draft capital we need for trading up in the first unless it’s a future WR1 type prospect he covets.

There is not 2 sides to this argument. You take the TD when the TD is there and will put you up 4 with the opponent needing a TD with less than 2 min remaining in the game. You don’t dink and dunk and hope you get another shot at a TD just to chew clock and maybe end up in OT or worse, miss the FG or turn the ball over. Every Coach in the NFL takes the TD there over uncertainty 10 times out of 10. Shakir was the right pass, Allen was just unfortunately affected on the throw at the last second.

Shakir was wide open too in the end zone

Who cares

As I have said previously in other threads, I think the Texans are gonna shock some people today and I got them winning this game. I don’t think the Ravens are as good as people think.

Marrone is a loser.

Why don’t you just tell everyone which team you’re really a fan of already. It’s obvious it ain’t the Bills as you only approve of negative commentary and mock anything that shows any positivity on any subject related to the Bills or any player. Your schtick is played out man. You need better hobbies

Huh? I posted this on December 5th...we have all been taking it one game at a time. Its now down to the final game to make the AFCCG per the OP

1 more win down, and 1 to go to get to the AFCCG and a shot at the Super Bowl! Fitting its against the Chiefs...our old nemesis and the perfect team to cleanse our past on! LFG!!!!! GoBills!

As many have said, likely because they are fully healthy at RB have an array of injuries we are dealing with elsewhere.

I don't get what your complaint is, that was text book late hit and flag.

All good, but I don't think that is the case otherwise no player diving for the pylon would actually score a TD when part of their body is out of bounds while they are diving in the air and extending an arm to get the football to the pylon. NFL Rule states: "Out Of Bounds A player is out of bounds when he touches any boundary line or touches anything — except a player, an official, or a pylon — that is on or outside a boundary line".' So based on that, the Steelers player was not yet out of bounds, he was still in the air and had not yet come down out of bounds. So whether the ball nicked his helmet or not is irrelevant because at the discussing point where the might have (but IMHO did not) touch his helmet, the player was not yet out of bounds and therefore could not make the ball out of bounds. But honestly, I think one of the other angles clearly shows it did not hit his helmet anyway.

I get why you are saying this, but did you actually watch the Niners game? The Ravens crushed them because Brock threw 4 INT's - however, 3 of those INT's were on tipped passes. It was more about it just being one of those games where Ravens kept getting the ball on short fields on some bad breaks for the Niners. I guarantee if they played again tomorrow they would not come close to replicating that same game against the Niners. Doesn't mean they couldn't beat the Niners again, but the nature of that game was more on some bad breaks you can't just bank on every week like tipping 3 balls into INT's. Ravens, like any team really, are very dangerous when they are winning the turnover battle because they can run the ball so well and can control the game. But when the Ravens aren't getting those turnovers, their offense isn't something I think anyone needs to fear. And Stroud has been pretty sensational on protecting the ball this year, especially for a rookie QB. So if Houston just doesn't turn the ball over, I think their firepower on offense is going to be tough for the Ravens offense to keep up with.

Ive got Houston upsetting the Ravens. Lamar has not played since week 17, they are coming in cold off a bye as a team, and Houston is playing on house money right now free and fast. Ravens offense has been mediocre more than its been good/great, and Houston has an underrated defense. Lamar and the Ravens historically have not been a dangerous playoff team either.

I think you missed his question. He didn't ask why Fournette wasn't called up...he is asking why is Murray active over Fournette. Which to me honestly was a surprise to me, I really thought this was the kind of game where having a tough north and south runner like Fournette made more sense than older Murray.

2 things on that fumble: First - IMHO there is clear footage the ball did not hit his helmet from another angle. Second - Most importantly, what no one seems to notice is that even IF it had hit his helmet, that did NOT make the ball out of bounds because at the moment it is alleged to have hit the helmet the player was still in the air and had NOT YET touched down out of bounds and therefore was a player STILL in play. So his helmet could have hit it (but didn't really) and it doesn't make the ball dead because the player is not yet out of bounds. (capital words to highlight not yell). This was 100% a fumble and Bills legal inbounds recovery. Refs blew it. There were some calls Bills got away with and some calls Pitt got away with, that is the nature of the game. But this fumble was a incredibly egregious screw up by the refs and almost changed the whole complexity of the game had it not been for Elams INT.

I think that is best for right now for everyone on Elam. He has flashed some big play potential late last year and now comes into the playoff game and gets a critical INT and almost had another. But he still has issues that need to be improved. Hard to evaluate him this year because we found out he was playing hurt and then hasn't gotten any opportunities until this game. I still think the kid has a lot of potential as well as a lot to work on, but we won't really know the kind of player he could be until he can get on the field and see if he can continue to develop. Yeah, that is why I said they switched it seemed to target Cam when that happened. And agree, its gonna be a long week of watching the injury situation here as not having Taron would be tough. Bernard seems like he avoided a major injury, but I doubt he plays this week. I think best case scenario for him would be AFCCG or SB. Hopefully Benford is back too.

I think you are missing the point. Nobody is saying its all on Davis, the argument is that Davis and Allen just are as on the same page or as dialed in and the passing offense is more efficient and less turnover prone when Davis is not in the lineup. Its not a quest for blame, its about does the passing offense function more efficiently with Davis on the field or off it? So it doesn't matter whose fault it is, the fact remains that nearly 40% of Allens INT's are happening when he is trying to get the ball to Davis. Then there are also all the incompletions too as Davis has a bad career catch rate. I think the data plenty supports identifying that Allen is less efficient as a passer when throwing to Davis vs the other guys on this roster.