Mark80

Just because he's better than those clowns doesn't mean that he is one of the better centers in the league which a lot of posters here profess. At best he's average as far as skill level goes but above average as far as leadership qualities.

I'm more referring to running plays actually and there is no way it is by design on those. We have been dominated up the middle for the past 2 to 3 years. Just look at our short yardage success or lack there of. He, along with the guards, have been manhandled. People who do not see that just have their homer goggles on IMO. If he wasn't a vocal leader on the team I think a lot of his supporters would be singing a much different tune.

He's the most overrated Bills player we've had in a while. The people next to him have nothing to do with defenders driving him 1 or 2 yards into the backfield off the snap in one-on-one situations which I've been noticing on him for years. Last year, there were times were he was flat out knocked on his butt by guys one on one.

Tim Hasselbeck never did anything in the league. Matt is a good call though.

You shouldn't be allowed to start a thread again, ever.

Don't you have some false inside info to post somewhere?

Coaches, perhaps, but we've been in the game for big name players ever since I can remember. Paup, Speilman, Lofton, Spikes, Mario, Owens, Fletcher, to name a few big name guys off the top of my head quick.

Touche

Jim Kelly is the Derek Jeter of the Bills if there ever was one.

My god, don't you guys get sick of doing this stupid "in" thing. It's not clever, it's not funny, it offers exactly zero to the board, and it is the most annoying thing going around here. Please, for the love of god, just stop this crap already. The same few users doing it over and over and over. It was funny for a week or two, but now it's just stupid and unoriginal. Let the mods do their jobs and lock threads they deem repetitive.

You seem to be acting as if this is something new. The way of the world since the dawn of humanity.

http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/176079-greg-hardy/?hl=hardy

Probably my least favorite Bill over the past few years. He was terrible.

Exaggerate much?

Maybe all guys who are so broken hearted over FJ should watch this little snip regarding loyalty and the NFL. As the caption says, sentimentality can kill a franchise. Get over it. FJ was so good and so instrumental to our success that he has led our team to exactly 0 playoff appearances. Sure, I like FJ, but sometimes you have to move on. http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12443627&ex_cid=espnapi_public

So, considering Shady's and Jerry's new deals does anyone know how much space we actually have left entering tomorrow with and without FJ on the roster? Thanks if you do.

TE's have a relatively long shelf life in the NFL.

It means that while the Rolling Stones have a some great songs, the Beatles have collection of great albums all plastered with great songs on them which makes them significantly better in my mind. Nah, the majority of us just read the title and answered the poll. It doesn't say which band rocks harder or is more rock and roll, it just says "Beatles vs Stones" and "Which is the better band?"

The Stones have 10 great songs. The Beatles have 10 great albums.

The reason is because they already see cap relief by not having to pay for the draft pick when they sign him. If you trade the #1 overall pick, you are saving $4 or $5M of cap space year one and an extra $1M per year on top of the previous season the next 3 years by not having that player on your team...your cap relief. Also, the NFLPA would never allow money to be traded and taken out of the salary cap (as what would be happening in your example as whatever the cap cash traded would basically just disappear from the pie).

I was looking at it as if Kiko coming back would be like our first round pick. Now I can look at as if Shady is our first round pick. I'm down with that.

I like this because I would think that it's a lot easier to predict future performance based on evaluations vs. NFL players rather than vs. College players. To me, this is just another way we are trying to win against the grain. Use the D, build up the running game, go after NFL vets and don't put too much value on draft picks / unproven or barely proven players. This is what Billy Beene has been doing in Oakland for years in baseball, quite successfully with a very tight budget. He trades big prospects for MLB vets all the time, he sign value in the FA market, and trades for versatile, solid performers on the field. I'm loving this direction.

Running backs are a "dime a dozen". So, out of 12 running backs 10 are the same, 1 sucks, and 1 is elite. We just got an elite one. Shady qualifies as a "penny a dozen" running back.

Seems to be a theme around here lately. Glad management has the guts to not give in to unreasonable demands.

Matt Cassel