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Thats a lotta "ifs." What the Bills will actually do is bring Winslow in for a teaser (announced on BB.com), then sign this year's Robert Royal FA from some other team. They may sign one "big" FA this year. Last year was Stroud.

I thought teams took advantage of Denny. He seemed to overpursue, or slant down hard too often....causing him to get burned on misdirection plays. I also remember the scheme having him drop into coverage ona running back for some reason...which was another matchup advantage for the opposing team.

Nice. I think this thread can be coined What Would Polian Do (WWPD)? My only criticism is I don't think Polian would be satisfied with our tackle situation with the loss of Peters. He would somehow buildup the depth on the line...

The Bills have enough glaring needs on the roster. Lock Peters up and focus on the other stuff. Peters can be solid at that position for years to come. It would be nice to actually have some stability there, not worry about it for anohter 5-8 years, keep working on solidifying their defensive front, getting some playmakers, and improving overall

I would fly in from home in Florida to see it. I'm sure the crowd would be electric.

kevin gilbride, OC for the giants

I'm watching the Ravens vs Miam game and I noticed one thing: Their stadium isn't even close to loud. The ravens are only up by 10 and you can't even hear the Miami fans. It also looks like the middle tier sections are mostly empty. This is more reason why it sucks that the Bills haven't made it to the playoffs on such a long time. The Ralph would be rocking...

Reed. How many TD returns does he have? The guy is a threat to score on any opponent's pass play.

- of the Buffalo Bills. He is worth millions!

From my point of view, what are the Bill's real options for coaching? There will be a lot of coaching talent this year and next. Unfortunately, I've come to the conclusion that the Bills will not spend the necessary money to go and get any of it. Anybody who thinks we're going to spend big money on the likes of Cowher, or Holgrem is seriously kidding themselves....and I doubt anyone is going to come to Buffalo for the great weather or income taxbreak. The same holds true for talent on the team. Many times I think the Bills draft to not necessarily fortify their team, but manage the leverage they have with restricted FA's, and also players that will hit free agency in the near future....basically just enough to keep them in a good financial situation. For me, I'm sorry, but I feel like the Bills need to earn my fanship back. I feel like I've held on to "hope" for too long. It would be a different story if they were making significant moves, but things just were not working out....BUT, instead, they do just enough to keep us hanging on.

you also have to understand your personnel. In this case, we are are comparing an MVP versus a turnover prone backup...you don't put your turnover prone backup in that position.

1B. John McCargo. DT North Caroline State (26th overall) McCargo injured his foot after a handful of games in 2006 and was IR'd. Returned in 07, though did not start any games, and went on to collect 2.5 sacks and make a few good plays. Began 2008 as a backup DT and had little impact. IR'd late in the season. Bills traded a 2nd and 3rd to Chicago for the chance to move up and get him. Those picks were sorely needed as the Bills rebuilt after TD's era. Early in 2008, DL Coach Bill Kollar questioned his work ethic, and McCargo was again relegated to backup status. Bills attempted to trade the underachieving DT, but McCargo did not pass a physical. Thereafter, he was IR'd again in 2008. He will not return in 2009, and should be considered a bust. Grade: F Totally Agree...not only does the lack of production contribute to this grade, but the fact that the Bills gave up 2nd and 3rd rounders is amazing. F is about right.

Who you gonna replace him with? Its not like the Bills have been drafting plenty of depth for the O-line for the last couple of years. Also, if he's so overrated, who voted him to the Pro-Bowl? I've been a Jason Peters advocate simply because I think its the best option for the Bills. I'm not one to ignore facts, so we'll see where this years negotiation goes.

I agree Mitchell and Stroud were good. Johnson is a placeholder..

The Bills organization also gets money from revenue sharing, and the NFL for TV advertising rights. Also, the Bills could sell naming rights....all of this does not require a raise in ticket prices The biggest problem is outside of WNY, not many people care about the Bills because they sell a poor product. Take me for example, I'm from the south, but I became a fan in the early 90's. They were on TV all the time, and were fun to watch. Not anymore. I pay for the NFL Sunday ticket, buy merchandise, and make a couple of trips to the game every now and then. The ONLY thing keeping them alive is the fact that Western New Yorkers are dedicated people, willing to keep showing up to the games despite the relative price of the tickets.

I think Trent has the tools, but even the best QBs cannot carry a team without decent protection and a handful of weapons. As you mentioned, the Bills need to upgrade their line. I wold also add center to that list...the 3-4 defenses we play typically take advantage of Preston. Lee Evans is a top flight, #1 kinda guy...defenses take him away and we supposedly try to take advantage of the other opportunities. The problem is this: he's on of the few playmakers and he needs to get the ball no matter what. Take for example, Steve Smith. Teams double him all the time...BUT, the Panthers make it a point to get him the ball. They do reverses, short screens, move him around, and even throw into the double coverage. Opposing teams are more that willing to committ additional resources to one of the few playmakers the Bills respond by going away from Evans.

Let's compare that to the moves made by the Bills: 1. Let their top end LT hold out...probably cheaper to pay a 1 time pro bowler vs a 2 timer 2. Sign Kavika Mitchell, Marcus Stroud, and Spencer "hasn't done anything for me lately" Johnson 3. Put a rookie offensive coordinator at the helm 4. Stood pat on a second yr QB, without a full season under his belt 5. Drafted another DB with top pick for a team with minimal pass rush 6. Gave DJ an extension after 5 games into the season 7. Kept one of the worst QBs ever, in a key backup role for said second yr player

goes to show you the division was there for the taking....the Bills had their chances as well....difference is, we didn't do anything with it.

After thorough consideration, I agree that Jauron is not the top end coach many Bills fans would like to have. But, I think that the organization has a more pressing need: a top end GM. Think about it. Just like the Raiders, the Bills have made some headscratching calls the past nine years when it comes to the draft and free agency. They reach for players like McCargo, Losman, and sad to say, but Whitner (good player, but picked too high). They overpay for average talent like Walker, Dockery, Reed, and Kelsey. And then they don't shell out the money to the right at the high value positions for the likes of Pat Williams, Jason Peters, and a decent backup QB. Also, don't expect to see Fred Jackson unless he comes in well below market value to stay with the team. Lastly, a top end GM will demand performance from the staff and players. Who are the players accountable to now? Brandon? Their good friend Jauron? The fans? The frugile 90yr-old Mr Wilson? We really don't know, and I'm not sure the players and staff know either? More than anything, I think the Bills really need a GM. The "inner circle" aint cutting it. Fix this, and you stand a lot better chance of fixing the Bills.

I agree, not renewing season tickets is a fair form of protest.... Excitement, hope, and actual performance/entertainment will bring those sales back. The onus SHOULD be on an organization to provide those things. Right now, we don't get those things, and the fans don't OWE it to an organization worth $800 million to keep drinking the kool aid and spending their hard earned money. Empty seats, and low merchandise sales should send a message. Conversely, if the Bills do well and make it to the playoffs, I'm sure profitability should rise...

I'm not a hater, but not a Jauron fan either....hopefully Jauron makes something of this coming year. My big thing is they need to learn from their mistakes. You always hear the players saying it, but many of the repeated mistakes were made by the coaching staff: poor clock management, poor adjustments (McGee getting burned at Miami, DE's covering RBs on routes, etc...). I really do hope the continuity makes up for the lackluster coaching....because no matter how you couch it, the coaching was lackluster. I think some a lot of it can be attributed to Schonert being a rookie OC....but I think Jauron is simply an average to below average coach. All in all, I personnally would rather keep Jauron at least another year, instead of blowing up the staff...additionally, the Bills have bigger problems.....like getting a GM on staff.

thats funny!

Give skooby a break....he did caveat his thread calling it a rumor. as for the rumor itself, it sounds about right to me. Usually thats how these things go. You want to make a change with the staff, you usually force the HC into something he doesn't want to do...like firing his coordinators. This way, the coach quits instead of sitting back and waiting to be fired. That way, you don't have to pay his salary.

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don't care anymore.... Maybe I'll care next year....it wouldn't be so bad, but I think the whole organization is sub-par. I've been there for 18 years, but I'm tired of watching terrible football....not only do I watch bad football, I am missing good football on other teams....too bad its taken me so long to make this decision.