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The problem is deciding which ones to keep.

So, then we just cut executive pay and move on. Right?

I wished our teams sucked as bad his his teams over the past 13 years...

Last 2 minutes of each half the ref upstairs reviews the calls on the field.

Whenever I read your posts...

Correct response: "I'd drop you like a sack of dirt." http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Seinfeld#The_...Kicks_.5B8.4.5D

"You want a piece of me????"

ooh! ooh! Mr. Kotter! I have!

To be fair - I brought it up again because I didn't appreciate the nuance of the NYT article.

I think it is safe to say that the book of federal programs that cost significantly more than the pitch price is a fuggin' thick one.

Yeah, that is a much cleaner quote. Thanks.

Gotcha. The article was a bit misleading in order to score style points. Although, I don't know how you can say an anonymous person is "100% supported the actual McCain aide who said it first", when other named sources have refuted the claim.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/arts/tel...amp;oref=slogin

That phrase has been a red herring for years. Morality is legislated every single day. Any time a law or policy is passed because someone claims it is the "right" thing to do - it is based upon someone's morals. It doesn't matter if it is abortion or the minimum wage.

I don't know if it is accurate, but if it is... ouch. Perhaps the UAW can get together with steel workers and share war stories of sticking it to "the man"...

To those who say we have to "control costs" - I say line them up and have them sign a contract that they will not accept any form of care that has been improved from this day forward. "Controlling costs" is tantamount to saying "stop progress". We do some amazing freakin' things in this country with regards to health care and furthering our knowledge of our bodies. That costs money. I'm sure the medicine of the 1950's would be pretty cheap today. Some penicillin, a cold wet rag when you had a fever, the occasional lobotomy... But we want the best. We want it to be perfect (or we'll sue) and it better not interfere with my cell phone contract or Directv.

I think this is a HELL of a lot more credible than "anonymous sources" from the losing campaign.

GM builds cars (crappy ones) for the sole reason of paying inflated salaries and lifetime benefits to its retirees. It can no longer do that. The UAW will make sure that the auto workers and the steel workers meet the same fate.

John Sununu pro-choice?

Ummm.... words have definitions. You might try looking at a dictionary or something.

The auto industry is probably a good topic to discuss. It seems apparent to me that there are WAY too many car companies with WAY too models to support with WAY too many dealerships to really be sustainable these days. Cars just don't go to the junk yard after 60k miles like they did in the 70's.

Did she order Gucci bags for her daughters or were they supplied to her? That is the point I'm making - clearly she was complicit, maybe even an enthusiastic supporter, but it is hard to separate her actions from the campaigns actions. And I stand by my point earlier, politics is so much about image these days. Obama spent far more on image than she did. It was just spent a different way. I also think he campaigned as a man of the people. This doesn't excuse or validate the campaign's decisions - it just is what it is.

Again, I don't think you made the case that this was Palin driven and not campaign driven. If you are trying to sell me on the fact that this campaign was mishandled and all over the map on message, well... duh. Surely it was. It was one contradiction after another. The fact that it was extended to Palin is not a surprise to me.