Big Turk Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 This is an interesting point that was brought up by a caller on WGR the other day... Wilson is not firing Jauron because he is too cheap to eat his contract, which in relation to most coaches contracts is small potatoes anyway..probably in the neighborhood of $3-4 million for the 3 years... However, is Jauron actually costing Ralph more money by continuing as coach than he would if he was fired and replaced? How many places in the draft is Jauron causing us to move up by still being here? How many places in the draft has Jauron cause us to move up by finishing 7-9 year after year? Factor in the ramifications of paying a player drafted in the top 5, versus paying a player drafted out of the top 10 or further down the draft, and Jauron's contract is small potatoes in comparison. Factor this in for multiple years, and its a no brainer. If Jauron would cost Wilson 3-4 million to fire, he could potentially be costing Wilson 15-20 million by staying in added draft pick salaries... just an interesting way of thinking about the whole thing, one in which Ralph probably never considers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 This is an interesting point that was brought up by a caller on WGR the other day... Wilson is not firing Jauron because he is too cheap to eat his contract, which in relation to most coaches contracts is small potatoes anyway..probably in the neighborhood of $3-4 million for the 3 years... However, is Jauron actually costing Ralph more money by continuing as coach than he would if he was fired and replaced? How many places in the draft is Jauron causing us to move up by still being here? How many places in the draft has Jauron cause us to move up by finishing 7-9 year after year? Factor in the ramifications of paying a player drafted in the top 5, versus paying a player drafted out of the top 10 or further down the draft, and Jauron's contract is small potatoes in comparison. Factor this in for multiple years, and its a no brainer. If Jauron would cost Wilson 3-4 million to fire, he could potentially be costing Wilson 15-20 million by staying in added draft pick salaries... just an interesting way of thinking about the whole thing, one in which Ralph probably never considers... If the fans start not showing up for games, which I suspect they will, how much is that going to cost in actual dollars i.e. parking, concessions, advertising, etc. Also, is attendance an issue with selling another game to Toronto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 They'll just trade out of the top 10 anyways, and get fleeced doing it while they're at it. So, no, keeping Jauron isn't costing Ralph more money in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan74 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 This is an interesting point that was brought up by a caller on WGR the other day... Wilson is not firing Jauron because he is too cheap to eat his contract, which in relation to most coaches contracts is small potatoes anyway..probably in the neighborhood of $3-4 million for the 3 years... However, is Jauron actually costing Ralph more money by continuing as coach than he would if he was fired and replaced? How many places in the draft is Jauron causing us to move up by still being here? How many places in the draft has Jauron cause us to move up by finishing 7-9 year after year? Factor in the ramifications of paying a player drafted in the top 5, versus paying a player drafted out of the top 10 or further down the draft, and Jauron's contract is small potatoes in comparison. Factor this in for multiple years, and its a no brainer. If Jauron would cost Wilson 3-4 million to fire, he could potentially be costing Wilson 15-20 million by staying in added draft pick salaries... just an interesting way of thinking about the whole thing, one in which Ralph probably never considers... BS it makes no sense to fire him now there is nobody to hire in his place. All of the big names will wait until the offseason to sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonInBuffalo Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 This is an interesting point that was brought up by a caller on WGR the other day... Wilson is not firing Jauron because he is too cheap to eat his contract, which in relation to most coaches contracts is small potatoes anyway..probably in the neighborhood of $3-4 million for the 3 years... However, is Jauron actually costing Ralph more money by continuing as coach than he would if he was fired and replaced? How many places in the draft is Jauron causing us to move up by still being here? How many places in the draft has Jauron cause us to move up by finishing 7-9 year after year? Factor in the ramifications of paying a player drafted in the top 5, versus paying a player drafted out of the top 10 or further down the draft, and Jauron's contract is small potatoes in comparison. Factor this in for multiple years, and its a no brainer. If Jauron would cost Wilson 3-4 million to fire, he could potentially be costing Wilson 15-20 million by staying in added draft pick salaries... just an interesting way of thinking about the whole thing, one in which Ralph probably never considers... He probably never considered it because it's total nonsense. Most teams use a "cash to cap" financial model. It doesn't matter where you draft. Everybody spends the same amount of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Where Jauron is costing Ralph is in opportunity lost. No one is going to buy season tickets or 50th Anniversary jerseys or pony up corporate sponshorship with this loser at the helm. If Ralph made a brash move and hired a big name guy like Cowher or Holgmren or Schottenhiemer after the seasons over, he'd have to hire temp help to answer the phones at the season ticket office. They'd have to go into extra production on jerseys and hats and pantookahs in China AND corporate sponsorship would roll back in. Hell they might even sellout the Toronto game next year. Being cheap and keeping Dick so as not to have to pay him to not coach would be as we say in the business, "bending over dollars to pick up pennies". And as my old sales manager used to say "You can't save your way to prosperity". "You gotta spend money to make money". Ralph's a businesman. He knows this stuff. I may be wrong, but I think something big is going to happen after the seasons over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Also, is attendance an issue with selling another game to Toronto? attendance in Toronto is not an issue to the Bills because the deal has already been struck and there's no provision that i know of in regards to whether 55,000 or 55 people buy tickets. the Bills still get paid, which gives an all new meaning to whoever breaks it, it's paid for. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrudginglyPessimistic Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 He probably never considered it because it's total nonsense. Most teams use a "cash to cap" financial model. It doesn't matter where you draft. Everybody spends the same amount of money. Owning an NFL team under the salary cap since the players threatened to force the free market on the owners and they ran kicking and screaming to the more socialistic model of the salary cap brings the league as close to a printing press that prints legal tender as you can get and not be the Federal Reserve. Under any cap which forces all teams to pay the same amount for players (and as more teams move to cash to cap fiscal models even the practice of robbing the future to pay for the present is being eliminated) it makes no difference when you draft. Theoretically if Jauron is so bad with the team it costs them fans it might cost the overall league money, but as this would open the door to moving the team, even these lost fans can be recouped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 This is an interesting point that was brought up by a caller on WGR the other day... Wilson is not firing Jauron because he is too cheap to eat his contract, which in relation to most coaches contracts is small potatoes anyway..probably in the neighborhood of $3-4 million for the 3 years... However, is Jauron actually costing Ralph more money by continuing as coach than he would if he was fired and replaced? How many places in the draft is Jauron causing us to move up by still being here? How many places in the draft has Jauron cause us to move up by finishing 7-9 year after year? Factor in the ramifications of paying a player drafted in the top 5, versus paying a player drafted out of the top 10 or further down the draft, and Jauron's contract is small potatoes in comparison. Factor this in for multiple years, and its a no brainer. If Jauron would cost Wilson 3-4 million to fire, he could potentially be costing Wilson 15-20 million by staying in added draft pick salaries... just an interesting way of thinking about the whole thing, one in which Ralph probably never considers... Either way the salary cap and the minimum spending level are the same. I don't buy it. But it's an interesting thought, so thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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