MaineMoxie Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 He looks like a completely different QB with Josh McDaniels coaching. This kid has all of the same tools Edwards has, but he's being coached to succeed. The firing of Jauron can't happen soon enough... Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl. So did Doug Williams. Coaching - and a competent FO - makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billfan63 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Ortons First year starting: 1,869 yds 9 TDs 13 Ints Bottom line is, he wasn't very good. Even with those numbers from last year. JP Losman put up 3,051 yds 19 TDs and 14 Ints for us one year. Are you telling me he is good? McDaniels took Orton to the next level. There is no question about it. Yea, I'm telling you he's better than Edwards, prove otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossage Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Word, cotton. Edwards doesnt know where to throw the ball. Orton looked like he had two left arms at Chicago, but tonight he knew where his players were going to be and took what the defense gave him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Phil Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Orton was a good QB on a crap Chicago team. He is the same good QB but on a good team now. Hence the better production. FWIW, Edwards would suck if he played for the 86 bears He is Chad Pennington 2.0 Watch. The next injury is coming .....soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodnarb Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Coaching is everything. Twas always thus and always thus will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Orton was terrible in Chicago. Atrocious actually. I don't think Edwards is capable of being great. But I think he could be much better with a quality coach guiding him along. Did you see our offense at the end of the game? Running around confused before the snap, not sure where to lineup. It's embarrassing. Everything about the way this team is managed is embarrassing. Orton was not that bad in Chicago at all. He threw 18 tds to 12 ints last year with one of the worst receiving cores in football. Their best receiver was a converted kick returner. And his record was 21-12 as a starter. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/O/OrtoKy00.htm I've been on record since the day of the trade that because Cutler forced the issue, Denver made the absolute best trade they could make. Orton is a very solid NFL QB and has been for the last 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I've never understood the whole Rodney Dangerfield thing with Kyle Orton. Say what you want, but all he does is win. In 2005, Rex Grossman got hurt in the like the second game and by many Chicagolanders the season was written off. Kyle Orton comes in and they win 10 out or 12 before Rex comes back and looks good but they lose. I'd take Rex in a heartbeat over a lot of QBs in the NFL. Ws is the only stat that counts. Some QBs know how to win, some don't. Kyle knows how. Trent doesn't have a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewPort71 Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Orton was not that bad in Chicago at all. He threw 18 tds to 12 ints last year with one of the worst receiving cores in football. Their best receiver was a converted kick returner. And his record was 21-12 as a starter. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/O/OrtoKy00.htm I've been on record since the day of the trade that because Cutler forced the issue, Denver made the absolute best trade they could make. Orton is a very solid NFL QB and has been for the last 2 years. Now make his record 26--12 as a starter. I'd take him any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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