Big Curt Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 you're kidding right? of all the available coaches he is at the top of your list I'm not sure where you've been for the past 15 years. Tony Dungy is one of the best coaches of this era. He turned around Tampa Bay and the Colts won the Super Bowl. He's a great coach, just because he's willing to give Micheal Vick a chance does not hurt his accomplishments. He would NEVER come here but it sure would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 If I was the owner, Gruden would have been here as soon as he was let go last year. According to multiple sources with the Raiders and Bucs, Gruden loves to tell the front office "Get me some players who know what the !@#$ they are doing!!", and wanted nothing to do with any players he needed to teach anything to(ie, rookies and 2nd year players). Is it any wonder that Gruden's teams routinely fall apart after a few years when his aging veterans go into decline and his young players have no clue... No thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayzer32 Posted August 30, 2009 Author Share Posted August 30, 2009 First off, I wonder if TO will bother coming back from Dallas, and if he does I wonder if he can coach. We all know he would show some emotion out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 According to multiple sources with the Raiders and Bucs, Gruden loves to tell the front office "Get me some players who know what the !@#$ they are doing!!", and wanted nothing to do with any players he needed to teach anything to(ie, rookies and 2nd year players). Is it any wonder that Gruden's teams routinely fall apart after a few years when his aging veterans go into decline and his young players have no clue... No thanks... The Raiders were very good when he left, and he got Dungy's team the SB that Tony couldn't get. He is known to want QB's who know what they are doing.....not all players.....QB's. I could care less if the players like him, he is a winner in life. He'll also be a winner the next team he ends up coaching. Unfortunately he most likely won't be on our sideline. I'd take him any day of the week. Especially on this team. I don't need lifeless stiffs like Kelsay, Denney, Schobel and the boys thinking this is a country club. My head coach wouldn't be a guy that needs to become close friends with the employees he oversees (which includes players), but one that gets the most out of them. Any day of the week, I'd take Gruden on my team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey greco Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 No Gruden. It would suck to have a couple of winning years and then be terrible. All those ups and downs. We're all much more comfortable now with steadily sucking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LancasterSteve Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 He should have been fired last December. That is what I was thinking. Never happen though. Wilson IMHO will not fire Juron with 2 plus years left on his contract. Wilson has never ever these many years been one to pay for good coaching or pay to retain a good coach like Chuck Knox. Remember Wade Phillips had to press Wilson's feet to the fire to get paid the remaining years on his contract even though Wilson fired him. Always thought that was cheap and very petty on Willson's part. Here are some of Wilson's all time coaching hires and their records coaching the Bills: Harvey Johnson 1968 &1971 Wilson's close friend...W-2 L-23 .080 winning percentage John Rauch 69-71 W-7 L-20 .259 winning percentage Jim Ringo good Ol for Green Bay lousy coach 1976-77 W-3 L-20 .130 winning percentage Kay Stephenson 1983-85 W-10 L-26 .278 winning percentage Hank Bullough resident scholar W-4 L-17 1985-86 winning percentage .191 Hit pay dirt with Marv Levy W-112 against 70 loses in eleven years 1986 to 1997 Fired Phillips 1998-2000 with a winning record W-29 L-19 Gregg Williams 2001-2003 W-17 L-31 unknown came cheap. has not been a HC since Mike Mularkey another unknown 2004-2005 W-14 L-18 Has not been a HC since which brings us to Juron, dazed, lost and confused, a deer in the headlights stare, who is the antithesis of Vince Lombardi of being a leader and commanding respect. I can "hear" the players mantra now..."we have nothing to fear while Dick is here; nothing to fear another loosing record is near, nothing to fear our jobs will be here, nothing to fear for Dick will be here It's going to be a long season...sigh...again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 The Raiders were very good when he left, and he got Dungy's team the SB that Tony couldn't get. He is known to want QB's who know what they are doing.....not all players.....QB's. I could care less if the players like him, he is a winner in life. He'll also be a winner the next team he ends up coaching. Unfortunately he most likely won't be on our sideline. I'd take him any day of the week. Especially on this team. I don't need lifeless stiffs like Kelsay, Denney, Schobel and the boys thinking this is a country club. My head coach wouldn't be a guy that needs to become close friends with the employees he oversees (which includes players), but one that gets the most out of them. Any day of the week, I'd take Gruden on my team. Again...he is good until his aging veterans decline and then his teams go in the shitter and neither he nnor the team wants him to stay and attempt the rebuild... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 How much more of this moron can you take? I say before next week, he just can't get anything out of this team. Maybe a new coach will give this team a jolt going into NE. The clock for firing Dick Jauron will start the moment that the game ends between the Bills and New England. That game will be very ugly and Jauron will do nothing to instill any confidence in him. Fans will start booing Jauron at home games and the discontent will swell to a point where Wilson will have to do something before the season is over. I see this season spiraling out of control very quickly and within 6 games total disgust by most fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 I wish Jauron was already gone, but I really believe that we are stuck with him for at least this year and next unless the Bills season really goes horrible. I predict that if we are 6-10 or better Dick will be back. Maybe they will fire a coordinator or something. I just don't think Ralph is going to eat more than 1 year of Dick's contract. The Wildcard to all of this is if Ralph one way or another is no longer the Owner (not trying to be morbid or offensive). Jauron will be out of a job as soon as new ownership is in place, guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdelma Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Never he is the best coach the Bills ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist_to_open Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 um........last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 I wish Jauron was already gone, but I really believe that we are stuck with him for at least this year and next unless the Bills season really goes horrible. I predict that if we are 6-10 or better Dick will be back. Maybe they will fire a coordinator or something. I just don't think Ralph is going to eat more than 1 year of Dick's contract. The Wildcard to all of this is if Ralph one way or another is no longer the Owner (not trying to be morbid or offensive). Jauron will be out of a job as soon as new ownership is in place, guaranteed. And the bills will be out of Buffalo. Catch 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Again...he is good until his aging veterans decline and then his teams go in the shitter and neither he nnor the team wants him to stay and attempt the rebuild... If I'm correct, that happened exactly one time right? At Tampa? What coach hasn't that happened to? Great, tenured players get old.....team struggles whether or not to keep them or not........team goes into decline. Whoa, big shock there. Kinda sounds like the end of Bruce, Thurman, Andre and company a little bit. Kinda sounds like the Steelers in the early 80's. Kinda sounds like......well, hell, mostly everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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