Frez Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Was it ever known if Dick threw the challenge flag on the play that was caught out of bounds by Welker I believe? I think the announcers said he threw the flag but the cameras never actually went to a red flag on the field. What actually happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp000085 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 what about the onside kick that bounced off of bruschi's head? I'm really really close to being completely done with the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 what about the onside kick that bounced off of bruschi's head? I'm really really close to being completely done with the NFL.hard to beat the guys in black and white uniforms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 what about the onside kick that bounced off of bruschi's head? I'm really really close to being completely done with the NFL. At that time I think we were out of time outs and therefore couldn't challenge the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Was it ever known if Dick threw the challenge flag on the play that was caught out of bounds by Welker I believe? I think the announcers said he threw the flag but the cameras never actually went to a red flag on the field. What actually happened? I mean, that's the problem. The announcers kind of intimated that he did but due to being up the Patriots a**es, they didn't show the outrage that they might have say if we were the Steelers and we were playing, say, the bengals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 hard to beat the guys in black and white uniforms The refs didn't lose this game for Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 If he did indeed throw the replay flag, Dickless should've made it clear to the nearest ref that he was doing so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Dick said he "dropped" the flag but failed to throw it. He said he needs to get down the sideline and throw it so that refs can see the flag. He is such a goofball. What a loser (literally). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Donahoe Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 what about the onside kick that bounced off of bruschi's head? I'm really really close to being completely done with the NFL. It actually bounced off of Cory McIntyre's left hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 Dick said he "dropped" the flag but failed to throw it. He said he needs to get down the sideline and throw it so that refs can see the flag. He is such a goofball. What a loser (literally). He dropped the flag? WTF is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 He dropped the flag? WTF is that? That's our Dick. And we have Dick for 3 more years! WooHoo!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKOOBY Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 He dropped the flag? WTF is that? I'd like to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 The refs didn't lose this game for Buffalo. Word. But they certainly made some key calls against the bills at the perfect moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 It is the refs job to recognize that he threw the flag. If it was on the playing field, it is on the refs to recognize it. Dick said he "dropped" the flag but failed to throw it. He said he needs to get down the sideline and throw it so that refs can see the flag. He is such a goofball. What a loser (literally). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 At that time I think we were out of time outs and therefore couldn't challenge the call. Inside 2 minutes, the booth calls for the replay. They didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 FWIW: Officials burn Bills twice on opening drive Also on the drive, Cassel found Wes Welker on a deep out pattern for a 21-yard gain to the Buffalo 17. But replays indicated Welker didn't have possession and failed to get both feet inbounds. Bills coach Dick Jauron threw the challenge flag, and several assistants jumped up and down to get the officials' attention, but play wasn't halted. The Patriots got off another play to eliminate any possibility of a video review. Two plays later, Cassel scrambled 13 yards for a touchdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 It actually bounced off of Cory McIntyre's left hand. if it hit mcintyre before 10 yds, then that'd have been a penalty - i don't recall seeing any flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdelma Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 He dropped the flag? WTF is that? He wanted to do it with class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 it was a half @ss attempt by Dick Jauron to get the red flag onto the field. When I say half @ss it was probably worse then that. Heeve that F'n thing! Hit the ref with it, hell have your QB throw it for you........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalOhio Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 what about the onside kick that bounced off of bruschi's head? I'm really really close to being completely done with the NFL. Hey Corp, on that play it hit McIntyre's left fingers before it went 10 yards. You can see it from the endzone view of the play. Very slight, but it DID hit his fingers first before anything else. Also, on a play like that, why not just blast it low at the other guys. They'd never be able to field it cleanly. And the no challenge/challenge on the Welker out of bounds catch just started the whole day off wonderfully. And that late hit call on Simpson against Moss. What a joke! Come on, did anyone expect our team to beat the Patriots in New England? LAST PLACE IN THE AFC EAST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 IF IT HITS OUR GUY BEFORE IT GOES 10 YDS ITS A PENALTY, THEY NEVER THREW A FRIGGIN FLAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 IF THE REFS WERE THE DOING THEIR JOB HE DOESN'T HAVE TO DROP THE FLAG IN THE FIRST PLACE!! THE REF WAS RIGHT THERE AND THE PLAY WASN'T EVEN CLOSE!! WELKER'S ENTIRE TOE WAS OUT OF BOUNDS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 IF IT HITS OUR GUY BEFORE IT GOES 10 YDS ITS A PENALTY, THEY NEVER THREW A FRIGGIN FLAG Excellent point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Excellent point. AND- the ref INITIALLY signaled for Buffalo ball. How is the play overturned WITHOUT review?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drg2021 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 it was a half @ss attempt by Dick Jauron to get the red flag onto the field. When I say half @ss it was probably worse then that. Heeve that F'n thing! Hit the ref with it, hell have your QB throw it for you........ He dropped it like a B word drops her hanky hoping the good looking man will pick it up for her.Dick is such a B word he really needs to grow a set of balls,seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 IF IT HITS OUR GUY BEFORE IT GOES 10 YDS ITS A PENALTY, THEY NEVER THREW A FRIGGIN FLAG Why they didn't throw the flag, who knows? but watch the reply we touched it first (before ut went 10) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 AND- the ref INITIALLY signaled for Buffalo ball. How is the play overturned WITHOUT review?? I was wondering teh same thing, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer860 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Exciting game huh? ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelso_Helmet Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 He dropped the flag? WTF is that? ...about the extent of animation and sideline presence one would expect from a walking corpse in a headset. Another episode of "Weekend at Jauronie's" comes to a sad finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 AND- the ref INITIALLY signaled for Buffalo ball. How is the play overturned WITHOUT review?? The announcers said it was confirmed by replay officals that it touched a Bill first, wasn't hard to tell, no need to hold up the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 The announcers said it was confirmed by replay officals that it touched a Bill first, wasn't hard to tell, no need to hold up the game. a penalty still should have been called. if anything otherwise happens, it looks fishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 The announcers said it was confirmed by replay officals that it touched a Bill first, wasn't hard to tell, no need to hold up the game. That's all well and good, but the OFFICIALS never reviewed the play AFTER they called it Buffalo ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 That's all well and good, but the OFFICIALS never reviewed the play AFTER they called it Buffalo ball. last 2 minutes it up to the booth, they looked at it and made the call, what's the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 In the last two minutes, it must come from the booth. You couldn't hear what the ref said, but there was one view, kind of from behind NE end, where I think what happened was they ruled a Bills' player first touched it, then it hit Ted B, bounced around and Bill's recovered. However the first touch was by a Bill's player less than 10 yards downfield, therefore illegal touch by Buffalo. On one of the replays it looked like a Buffalo player stuck his arm out, but you never say that angle again on the replay. My guess is that's what the refs stated happened. At that time I think we were out of time outs and therefore couldn't challenge the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayzer32 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 last 2 minutes it up to the booth, they looked at it and made the call, what's the problem? How did they get the word down to Walt Coleman then? He never went to the booth and put on the headset. The broadcasters were told that it was reviewed to cover their asses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 last 2 minutes it up to the booth, they looked at it and made the call, what's the problem? The booth never made the call, that's the problem. The booth tells the official whether they should look at it or not. They didn't want the ref to look at it, so it wasn't reviewed. Which is lame. Regardless of what happened, when it's that close, it should be a review especially since individual teams can't choose to review it at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 The booth never made the call, that's the problem. The booth tells the official whether they should look at it or not. They didn't want the ref to look at it, so it wasn't reviewed. Which is lame. Regardless of what happened, when it's that close, it should be a review especially since individual teams can't choose to review it at that point. Exactly- and while we're on the topic, I'd like to mention Peters' phantom false start (the encroachment on the play would have resulted in a first), or the BLATANT hold on a third down play in the second half where KW (IIRC) was literally DRAGGING #84 behind him, otherwise WIDE open to the QB. The result of that play was a completion for a first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Exactly- and while we're on the topic, I'd like to mention Peters' phantom false start (the encroachment on the play would have resulted in a first), or the BLATANT hold on a third down play in the second half where KW (IIRC) was literally DRAGGING #84 behind him, otherwise WIDE open to the QB. The result of that play was a completion for a first. Peters actually did rock a little before the snap -- can't fault the refs for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Peters actually did rock a little before the snap -- can't fault the refs for that one. If that's the case, then I totally missed it on the slow-motion replay being projected in HD on the wall 8 feet in front of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayzer32 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Peters actually did rock a little before the snap -- can't fault the refs for that one. He didn't move anymore than anyone else does on any given play. That call was total BS. O-lineman are always turning their heads and they never get called for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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