lets_go_bills Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 My take: The hit was NOT late, the hit was NOT dirty, but... It looks like Wilson really followed through, to the point of driving Trent down and into the ground, keeping his helmet under Trent's chin. I didn't like that and I think that was malicous and excessive. Especially considering the ball was released. There was no need to follow through like that and drive him down considering the ball was released. While I'm sure he didn't intend to hurt Trent, I think he intended to hit him as hard as possible. I know it may seem to some that I so badly want to point a finger/place blame. But I'm seeing clearly and think Wilson should be fined/suspened a la Smith. While it was too late to stop his hit, as the ball was just released before he made contact, and the game is played at warp speed, I think that he shouldn't of followed through like that and shouldn't have driven Trent down into the ground with his helmet pinned to Trent. That part WAS dirty. Link: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 That was helmet-to-helmet. And dirty in that he intentionally kept his helmet to Trent's to drive his head into the ground, as you said. I expect a fine and suspension, maybe even more than Eric Smith got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 My take: The hit was NOT late, the hit was NOT dirty, but... It looks like Wilson really followed through, to the point of driving Trent down and into the ground, keeping his helmet under Trent's chin. I didn't like that and I think that was malicous and excessive. Especially considering the ball was released. There was no need to follow through like that and drive him down considering the ball was released. While I'm sure he didn't intend to hurt Trent, I think he intended to hit him as hard as possible. I know it may seem to some that I so badly want to point a finger/place blame. But I'm seeing clearly and think Wilson should be fined/suspened a la Smith. While it was too late to stop his hit, as the ball was just released before he made contact, and the game is played at warp speed, I think that he shouldn't of followed through like that and shouldn't have driven Trent down into the ground with his helmet pinned to Trent. That part WAS dirty. Link: I just watched it again in real time and even at full speed it shows how long Wilson leaves his helmet on Trents chin. I think if you are not trying to drive the guy to the ground, your helmet moves off his chin much sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 I know! His helemt was pinned onto him the whole time! He was even slow to take his helmet off Trent. It WAS malicous and intent to hurt was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I dont know about him leaving his head there being malicous, you cant expect him to move his helmet after contact, because football is played in slow motion. What I thought was illegal is that he left his feet to make a high hit. He didnt do it in an attempt to knock down the pass either, as he never put his hands up to attempt a knock down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manateefan Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Didn't look like a dirty hit to me, but where the heck was the offensive line. He never should have come int that clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Quint Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Looks like not much has changed at all today with his status: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 don't think the hit was dirty, and i dont think the tackle was any more malicious than any other tackle on a quarterback. why is trent jumping to pass when a defender is bearing down on him?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 My take: The hit was NOT late, the hit was NOT dirty, but... It looks like Wilson really followed through, to the point of driving Trent down and into the ground, keeping his helmet under Trent's chin. I didn't like that and I think that was malicous and excessive. Especially considering the ball was released. There was no need to follow through like that and drive him down considering the ball was released. While I'm sure he didn't intend to hurt Trent, I think he intended to hit him as hard as possible. I know it may seem to some that I so badly want to point a finger/place blame. But I'm seeing clearly and think Wilson should be fined/suspened a la Smith. While it was too late to stop his hit, as the ball was just released before he made contact, and the game is played at warp speed, I think that he shouldn't of followed through like that and shouldn't have driven Trent down into the ground with his helmet pinned to Trent. That part WAS dirty. Link: I'd call that a perfect hit..............right on the button! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 JAWS CALLS WILSON HIT LEGITIMATEPosted by Mike Florio on October 6, 2008, 6:56 p.m. Amid reports that the NFL is reviewing tape of the hit from Cards safety Adrian Wilson that knocked Bills quarterback Trent Edwards out of a game that Buffalo eventually lost by 24 points, ESPN’s Ron Jaworski declared Monday on PTI that it was a “legitimate hit.” Jaws noted that Wilson had his face up when he struck Edwards, and that the concussion likely arose when Edwards’ head hit the ground. And Jaworski kinda/sorta suggested that it was Edwards’ only fault for not picking up a “third level” (we love it when Jaws uses jargon) defender. While the hit reportedly won’t be reviewed based on the prohibition against helmet-to-helmet contact, the rule regarding unnecessary contact comes into play, given that Wilson possibly slammed his body onto Edwards. So we’ll respectfully disagree with the bespectacled analyst. And we’ll all find out within the next few days who’s right, and who isn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_red Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 slow mo makes it look clean actually cuz you can't tell how he drove his helment on Trent at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I'd call that a perfect hit..............right on the button! Anyone who watches that hit, slo-mo or not, and doesn't think he led with his head then drove all off his weight into him into the ground, never played football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I'm with Jaws on this one. I can see them reviewing this based on Wilson's driving Trent to the ground, but this is a proper hit, with respect to the helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 I can't stress enough, the hit was clean. It was the follow through and keeping his head pinned to Trent's chest/chin the whole time and driving him into the ground that I feel was dirty and malicious. Intent to hurt was there IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I can't stress enough, the hit was clean. It was the follow through and keeping his head pinned to Trent's chest/chin the whole time and driving him into the ground that I feel was dirty and malicious. Intent to hurt was there IMO. Absolutely. He tried to hurt him and did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I'm with Jaws on this one. I can see them reviewing this based on Wilson's driving Trent to the ground, but this is a proper hit, with respect to the helmet. Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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