ChasBB Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Some Great (relatively modern) Quarterbacks Records as Starters Early in their Careers (& how long it took them to reach double-digit wins in the NFL) ... Joe Montana (49ers): 0-1 (1979) 2-5 (1980) 13-3 (1981) Peyton Manning (Colts): 3-13 (1998) 13-3 (1999) John Elway (Broncos): 4-6 (1983) 12-2 (1984) Steve Young (Bucs & 49ers): USFL (1984) 1-4 (1985) (Bucs) 2-12 (1986) (Bucs) 2-1 (1987) 2-1 (1988) 3-0 (1989) 0-1 (1990) 5-5 (1991) 14-2 (1992) Ken Anderson (Bengals): 0-4 (1971) 7-6 (1972) 10-4 (1973) Jim Kelly (Bills): USFL (1983-1985) 4-12 (1986) 6-6 (1987) 12-4 (1988) Dan Fouts (Chargers): 0-5-1 (1973) 3-8 (1974) 2-7 (1975) 5-8 (1976) 2-2 (1977) 9-5 (1978) 12-4 (1979) Dan Marino (Dolphins): 7-2 (1983) 14-2 (1984) Tom Brady (Patriots): No Starts (2000) 11-3 (2001) Joe Theismann (Redskins): CFL (1971-1973) (Lost 1 Grey Cup) No Starts (1974) No Starts (1975) 3-2 (1976) 4-2 (1977) 7-7 (1978) 10-6 (1979) Terry Bradshaw (Steelers): 3-5 (1970) 5-8 (1971) 11-3 (1972) Bob Griese (Dolphins): 3-7 (1967) 5-7-1 (1968) 2-6-1 (1969) 10-4 (1970) Brett Farve (Falcons & Packers): No Starts (1991) (Falcons) 8-5 (1992) 9-7 (1993) 9-7 (1994) 11-5 (1995) Roger Staubach (Cowboys): Naval Commitment (1964-1968) -- was drafted in 1964 by Cowboys 1-0 (1969) 2-1 (1970) 10-0 (1971) Warren Moon (Oilers): CFL (1978-1983) (Won 5 Grey Cups) 3-13 (1984) 4-10 (1985) 5-10 (1986) 7-5 (1987) 7-4 (1988) 9-7 (1989) 8-7 (1990) 11-5 (1991) Troy Aikman (Cowboys): 0-11 (1989) 7-8 (1990) 7-5 (1991) 13-3 (1992) What a turn-around for Manning & Elway in a single year! Took awhile for Fouts, Moon, Young, & Theismann to break into double-digit wins (and even Farve & Aikman for that matter, too). Of course, Moon tore up the CFL! Surrounding cast, of course, also has a LOT to do with a young QB's progress & success, but certain QBs seem capable of single-handedly making the players around them look better and I think Trent is one of those guys. Trent Edwards: 5-4 (2007) 3-0 (2008) -- Double-digits in '08?!?! So far, Trent is a bit ahead of the curve it seems for young QBs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPicc2114 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 great post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Trent Edwards: 5-4 (2007) 3-0 (2008) -- Double-digits in '08?!?! So far, Trent is a bit ahead of the curve it seems for young QBs! Yep, I keep thinking 4 more starts (not 4 needed to get to double digits). Those 4 starts give him 16 in the NFL, or a full season's worth of full go action with live bulletts. Wonder how he'll look with a full year of NFL starting expeience under his belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 A few more..... Ben Roethlisburger (Steelers): 13-1 (2004) Eli Manning (Giants): 1-6 (2004) 11-5 (2005) Drew Brees (Chargers): No Starts (2001) 8-8 (2002) 2-9 (2003) 11-4 (2004) Carson Palmer (Bengals): No Starts (2003) 6-7 (2004) 11-5 (2005) Philip Rivers (Chargers): No Starts (2004) No Starts (2005) 14-2 (2006) Tony Romo (Cowboys): No Starts (2003) No Starts (2004) No Starts (2005) 6-4 (2006) 13-3 (2007) Kurt Warner (Rams): No Starts (1998) 13-3 (1999) Jay Cutler (Broncos): 2-3 (2006) 7-9 (2007) 3-0 (2008) -- Double-digits in '08? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Tony Romo (Cowboys):No Starts (2003) No Starts (2004) No Starts (2005) 6-4 (2006) 13-3 (2007) TE is starting to look more like that guy with the bad chin....Now all TE needs is that hot girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 are we counting that new england game that Edwards played all but the first 3 snaps in not as a loss for TE? what about the Jets game where Losman saved the Bills, is that counted as a win for TE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Trent took a beating yesterday, he has to be hurting this morning. Yet he continued to get back up and deliver great passes with linemen in his face all day. 24/39, 1 TD, and 1 questionable pick, plus at least 5 dropped passes. Trent showed guts and determination that whole game. He has the potential to become a great QB in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted September 22, 2008 Author Share Posted September 22, 2008 are we counting that new england game that Edwards played all but the first 3 snaps in not as a loss for TE?what about the Jets game where Losman saved the Bills, is that counted as a win for TE? I basically just followed official stats, but valid points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted September 22, 2008 Author Share Posted September 22, 2008 A few more.....Ben Roethlisburger (Steelers): 13-1 (2004) ... Nice additions! Hard to think of them all for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 don't get me wrong, TE is off to a good start, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Nice additions! Hard to think of them all for sure. I find it interesting that there seems to be greater early success in the more recent times. Here's to TE not only joining the 2nd year 10+ wins group......but that new group formed not so long back.....the 2nd year QB superbowl wining group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted September 22, 2008 Author Share Posted September 22, 2008 I find it interesting that there seems to be greater early success in the more recent times. In general, I think teams are pressured to succeed more quickly and seem less interested long player development plans. I don't know if this is due to free agency or what, but it just seems like most teams do not patiently bring players along any longer. Young players just get tossed in and either sink or swim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 See there's still hope for JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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