pBills Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Awfully tough thing to do. I think he faired well. However, McCain was equally as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK2000 Posted August 18, 2008 Author Share Posted August 18, 2008 Awfully tough thing to do. I think he faired well. However, McCain was equally as good. McCain accomplished what I think he needed to do by emphasizing what kind of judges he'd appoint. I think he poured it on a little thick though to the point that he came of as disingenuous, such as answering the question "Which ONE SC Justice would you not have nominated" by listing the FIVE who support Roe v Wade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Worst thing that McCain could do now is rehash his stance against Roe v Wade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Awfully tough thing to do. I think he faired well. However, McCain was equally as good. Most people I've talked to agree that McCain outperformed Obama. In fact, one Obama supporter I know even went so far as to state his belief that McCain outperformed Obama so well that the Evangelicals must have slipped McCain the questions ahead of time so he could prepare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Most people I've talked to agree that McCain outperformed Obama. In fact, one Obama supporter I know even went so far as to state his belief that McCain outperformed Obama so well that the Evangelicals must have slipped McCain the questions ahead of time so he could prepare Yeah, McCain did a very good job. He seemed to answered honestly. Although, not because I support Obama but I believe he full of serious BS when he brought up his first marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier in france Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 He was defending his positions on abortion, gay marriage, and stem cells to an audience of Evangelicals. Problem for Obama with that kind of audience is: Do i try to win a couple of votes from those guys, with about 90% of them voting for Mc Cain anyway, with the risk of losing thousands of votes from my left ?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK2000 Posted August 18, 2008 Author Share Posted August 18, 2008 Problem for Obama with that kind of audience is: Do i try to win a couple of votes from those guys, with about 90% of them voting for Mc Cain anyway, with the risk of losing thousands of votes from my left ?... I think Obama's only goal was to go out there and say that he believes in Jesus and Jesus died for his sins to head off some of this Muslim speculation while tiptoeing around the social issues like abortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Problem for Obama with that kind of audience is: Do i try to win a couple of votes from those guys, with about 90% of them voting for Mc Cain anyway, with the risk of losing thousands of votes from my left ?... I saw a poll over the weekend that showed about 70% of evangelicals supporting McCain, and about 25% Obama, which are around the numbers from the Bush-Kerry election. So if Obama could attract a few percentage more by showing he's not different from them in religious belief and family values, but just some specific issues, it could make the difference in some of the swing states. He's not going to lose many voters on the left, they've seen what can happen by supporting a 3rd party candidate like Nader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I think Obama's only goal was to go out there and say that he believes in Jesus and Jesus died for his sins to head off some of this Muslim speculation while tiptoeing around the social issues like abortion. 100% agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeseburger_in_paradise Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I really liked the format. Same interviewer, same chair, same audience, same questions. As much as we got to see what their answers were, we got to see their contrasting styles. I'd like to see the format again, with a different target group, maybe labor unions, or seniors, or Bills fans (...so as president, would you allow foriegn countries to buy and move an NFL football team?). Anyhoo, good job by both candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I thought that Obama came across as calm and took a few seconds to think about the question before giving a thoughtful answer, while McCain was impulsive and tried to find opportunities to insert his stump speech lines without really reflecting on what the question was. In the eye of the beholder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I thought that Obama came across as calm and took a few seconds to think about the question before giving a thoughtful answer, while McCain was impulsive and tried to find opportunities to insert his stump speech lines without really reflecting on what the question was. In the eye of the beholder... So er,uh,er,uh,er is being thoughtful? I though it wsa having no idea what the question was about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeseburger_in_paradise Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I thought that Obama came across as calm and took a few seconds to think about the question before giving a thoughtful answer, while McCain was impulsive and tried to find opportunities to insert his stump speech lines without really reflecting on what the question was. In the eye of the beholder... Meaning, you see what you want to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanone Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I thought that Obama came across as calm and took a few seconds to think about the question before giving a thoughtful answer, while McCain was impulsive and tried to find opportunities to insert his stump speech lines without really reflecting on what the question was. In the eye of the beholder... I agree. And I'm mostly conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Obama accusing McCain of cheating http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/18/us/polit...back&st=cse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Obama accusing McCain of cheating http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/18/us/polit...back&st=cse Ahh..and here is a rebuttle article http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics...saddleback.html McCain is a seasoned politician of 25 years, he doesn't need a minute to think on every question, and has been doing town hall meetings where he's been asked almost every question before. I think this is Obama admitting that McCain outperformed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeseburger_in_paradise Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Ahh..and here is a rebuttle article http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics...saddleback.html McCain is a seasoned politician of 25 years, he doesn't need a minute to think on every question, and has been doing town hall meetings where he's been asked almost every question before. I think this is Obama admitting that McCain outperformed him. That's what I think. Why does Obama keep having to play the victim? I thought he did fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanone Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Did Obama say this or "Obama supporters"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 McCain's strength is the town hall-style debate, which is one of the reasons why the media has loved him so much over the years. It would be no shock that he did well in this format. However, in a 1-on-1 debate where they can respond to each other, it will be no shock when he loses those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 McCain's strength is the town hall-style debate, which is one of the reasons why the media has loved him so much over the years. It would be no shock that he did well in this format. However, in a 1-on-1 debate where they can respond to each other, it will be no shock when he loses those. I wouldn't count your eggs, Obama didn't look so hot going up against Clinton this spring, most agreed that he lost those debates. Obama is an amazing speaker, not debater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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