DC Tom Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Excerpt from the TBD front page: Armstrong County Coroner Bob Bower identified cardiac failure as the cause of death for former NFL offensive lineman and Kittanning graduate Mitch Frerotte. Bower released his finding Thursday, a day after Frerotte died at his Kittanning home at age 43. Lee Walker, Frerotte's older sister, said her family had a history of heart disease. Frerotte's father, Paul, and his 12 brothers and sisters all had heart-muscle disease. "They all died from it," Walker said. "They all passed away young, by their early 50s." ...must have been the 'roids, yup. "Well, if his whole family's on sterioids, what's the chance that he wasn't?" </obie-wan> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrite Gal Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 From the Pittsburgh Post GAz3te obituary - http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08165/889620-122.stm?cmpid=localstate.xml "The cause of death was cardiomyopathy, a disease in which the heart muscle becomes inflamed." Gee - I wonder what one of the possible causes of that disease could be? Good to see that you are wondering about this rather than stating it as a fact without any supporting evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Good to see that you are wondering about this rather than stating it as a fact without any supporting evidence. Wow. A sighting of the rare Short Pyrite Gal Post. I thought it was an urban myth, like Bigfoot or the Bills red zone offense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrite Gal Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 So, you think that on internet boards, people are entitled to their own opinion whether they have facts or not... but when he posts his opinion, with no facts, you think the mods removing it is reasonable? Contradict yourself much? I don't understand why the issue of steriods is such a horrible point to raise. Back then, in that era, athletes were using steriods in many sports, and weren't really aware of the long term consequences. It is certainly possible that dying at the age of 43, from either a massive heart attack or natural causes, that steroids played a part in the death. It is not at all an unreasonable topic to discuss, and had this been a player from another team we'd already have been writing it off as steriods, which makes me believe everyone around here is extremely sensitive to players from their own team. See: homerism. Everyone needs to relax, seriously. 1. I said folks are certainly entitled to their opinion but actually outside of the news business where institutions have made a general stand against censorship (adherence to this principle allowed bulletin board like the Rochester D&C site which gave birth to this community to get dragged down by legends in their own mind) folks do not have an unfettered right to to rant their opinion when it hurts the community to do so. I am happy to have the free market rule sites such as TBD where I have consistently encouraged the mods to be pretty draconian about censoring views that they feel hurt the community, even my own. I much rather would see this marketplace of ideas protected even if it means my own ideas sometimes get pulled by the mods who are not perfect but certainly have earned my trust through their actions. As far as the particular post in question dragging down the community. I actually do not think that it does since it is one rather easily ignored because it so fact-free to describing Ferrotte's steroid use as a key factor which led to his death without stating any specific evidence to support this view. Yes, steroids cause heart weakness. Yes, a lot of pro athletes use steroids. Does this mean that Ferotte's death was caused by steroid use or abuse? NO. In fact, the quote of one of his relatives that cited other family members and direct relatives of Ferotte's having died of heart attacks sounds like a far more reasonable cause of death or major factor in his death rather than the fact-free assumption made in the original post we are answering. However, even the non-substantiated post citing steroids as a cause without the least bit of substantiation is not the reason I think it would be reasonable for the mods to remove it (as I said folks are entitled as Mericans to their unsupported rants). The thing which I feel lessens the TBD community is to have this unsupported rant and the former Bills death notice thread amidst a lot of fond memories and RIP sentiments. Some folks cannot even wait a couple of days to launch their unsupported accusations or statements of consequence. I do not insist upon but would find it quite reasonable if the mods chose to spare us this blather. TBD is a neat place because generally folks get to spout a variety of opinions/ it is a special place though because many of these opinions are well informed (I try to be) and many are well stated (mine rarely are because I tend to use TSW to think out loud and do not do as much editing as I should). Its really a special place because it has been around so long (about a decade which is a lifetime in the internet) and folks have not only built a sense of family and shared goals on the web but even get together in real life from time to time. Posts such as the one which interrupted the solemn wishes and good memories with a unsupported steroid abuse accusation diminish TSW a little bit. Hence my sense that moderator action would have been reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Consequences of steroid abuse how about you show proper respect and then apologize? KITTANNING, Pa. (AP)—A coroner says former Buffalo Bills lineman Mitch Frerotte died of a thickening of the heart muscle, a condition that can cause sudden death. The coroner said Friday that Frerotte’s family has a history of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. The American Heart Association calls it the most common cause of sudden death in young athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightRider Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 From the Pittsburgh Post GAz3te obituary - http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08165/889620-122.stm?cmpid=localstate.xml "The cause of death was cardiomyopathy, a disease in which the heart muscle becomes inflamed." Gee - I wonder what one of the possible causes of that disease could be? genetics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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