erynthered Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Why can't you guys just quit cold turkey? Thats the way I did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Thats the way I did it. that's because you're a tough guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 that's because you're a tough guy. I had tried everything else, gum, patch etc.., nothing was helping. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartshan-83 Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 If I want to force myself to do work I don't pop some ritalin or adderall, I JUST DO IT. You have ADD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Why can't you guys just quit cold turkey? Just look at yourself in the mirror and decide to man up and quit. Then you won't have to worry about going crazy on some drug. Have you ever had an addiction? I gradually cut back to one cigarette a day and then quit, but it isn't that easy for everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFerguson Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Have you ever had an addiction? I gradually cut back to one cigarette a day and then quit, but it isn't that easy for everybody. You could argue that every habitual action is an addiction of some sort. I habitually drink 2 cups of coffee in the morning. Am I addicted? I stopped drinking coffee from December until March, cold turkey. My 'addiction' was way more psychological than physiological. In the morning I don't "NEED" a cup of coffee, but I enjoy one. If you wanted me to quit just to prove a point I would. When I was a kid I habitually played sports video games with my brothers. At one point my grades suffered. I no longer play video games. Was I addicted? If you have an addictive personality then I don't really think "cutting back" will solve the problem. If you really want to stop doing anything, cold turkey all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 You could argue that every habitual action is an addiction of some sort. I habitually drink 2 cups of coffee in the morning. Am I addicted? I stopped drinking coffee from December until March, cold turkey. My 'addiction' was way more psychological than physiological. In the morning I don't "NEED" a cup of coffee, but I enjoy one. If you wanted me to quit just to prove a point I would. When I was a kid I habitually played sports video games with my brothers. At one point my grades suffered. I no longer play video games. Was I addicted? If you have an addictive personality then I don't really think "cutting back" will solve the problem. If you really want to stop doing anything, cold turkey all the way. Are you aware that the pharmacologic processes that determine tobacco addiction are similar to those that determine addiction to drugs such as heroin and cocaine? That is not a disputed scientific fact....equating smoking and video game playing is pretty simplistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Are you aware that the pharmacologic processes that determine tobacco addiction are similar to those that determine addiction to drugs such as heroin and cocaine? That is not a disputed scientific fact....equating smoking and video game playing is pretty simplistic. that's because you're a tough guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 I had tried everything else, gum, patch etc.., nothing was helping. Good luck. What??? You couldn't climb up the Himalaya Mountains and find a Guru? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 What??? You couldn't climb up the Himalaya Mountains and find a Guru? For me. Its been tough to stay quit! I'd quit for 4 years, then smoke for 2. Then quit for 3, then smoke for 1. This has been going on for about 20 years. Right now I've been off them for about a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 For me. Its been tough to stay quit! I'd quit for 4 years, then smoke for 2. Then quit for 3, then smoke for 1. This has been going on for about 20 years. Right now I've been off them for about a year. So the word fag has multiple meanings when it pertains to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted May 7, 2008 Author Share Posted May 7, 2008 Are you aware that the pharmacologic processes that determine tobacco addiction are similar to those that determine addiction to drugs such as heroin and cocaine? That is not a disputed scientific fact....equating smoking and video game playing is pretty simplistic. You should not have posted that. I was starting to think he was perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFerguson Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Are you aware that the pharmacologic processes that determine tobacco addiction are similar to those that determine addiction to drugs such as heroin and cocaine? That is not a disputed scientific fact....equating smoking and video game playing is pretty simplistic. I realize it's simplistic to equate the two. I also realize that it must be difficult to quit smoking. It's difficult to do a lot of things. I am firm believer in Dr. Emmitt Brown/George McFly's motto, "If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything." The mind should have the strongest will of them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 I realize it's simplistic to equate the two. I also realize that it must be difficult to quit smoking. It's difficult to do a lot of things. I am firm believer in Dr. Emmitt Brown/George McFly's motto, "If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything." The mind should have the strongest will of them all. That's a great motto and I believe in it too...I also harp on that with my kids all the time.....but....to try to readjust your brain chemistry with just your mind is a bit difficult. There are distinct physical changes that occur on the receptor level when someone uses nicotine, not sure willpower can reverse those effects. This drug actually occupies the same receptor as nicotine does but does not produce the same effect as nicotine, and it's not displaced by nicotine, so when on it, people don't get the "good stuff" that nicotine produces...even if they smoke...the desire to smoke then decreases and eventually they quit altogether since smoking doesn't do anything for them anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 That's a great motto and I believe in it too...I also harp on that with my kids all the time.....but....to try to readjust your brain chemistry with just your mind is a bit difficult. There are distinct physical changes that occur on the receptor level when someone uses nicotine, not sure willpower can reverse those effects. This drug actually occupies the same receptor as nicotine does but does not produce the same effect as nicotine, and it's not displaced by nicotine, so when on it, people don't get the "good stuff" that nicotine produces...even if they smoke...the desire to smoke then decreases and eventually they quit altogether since smoking doesn't do anything for them anymore. But what about the smoking Hollywood sexpots we lust after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 But what about the smoking Hollywood sexpots we lust after? I'm not talking about Bette Davis bub...give it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 For me. Its been tough to stay quit! I'd quit for 4 years, then smoke for 2. Then quit for 3, then smoke for 1. This has been going on for about 20 years. Right now I've been off them for about a year. Thought I would give an update here. I quit the Chantix after about 5 days, was making me feel a liitle goofy(or at least more goofy than normal). However, I think it did work as stated around lowering the urge to smoke, and as a matter of fact I did move up my quit day to saturday from Monday, prolly due to the Chantix. So, my last cigarette was Friday evening at 11.32 PM. On my 5th day smoke free, and starting to see the pangs die down, and actually feeling pretty good bout being an ex-smoker. erynthered, i quoted you as as I mentioned before, i highly recommend the book--The Easy Way to Quit Smoking by Allen Carr. Adreeses folks like you in there as well, may be of help if you you read it even if you are on a quit cycle now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Thought I would give an update here. I quit the Chantix after about 5 days, was making me feel a liitle goofy(or at least more goofy than normal). However, I think it did work as stated around lowering the urge to smoke, and as a matter of fact I did move up my quit day to saturday from Monday, prolly due to the Chantix. So, my last cigarette was Friday evening at 11.32 PM. On my 5th day smoke free, and starting to see the pangs die down, and actually feeling pretty good bout being an ex-smoker. erynthered, i quoted you as as I mentioned before, i highly recommend the book--The Easy Way to Quit Smoking by Allen Carr. Adreeses folks like you in there as well, may be of help if you you read it even if you are on a quit cycle now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 "It's sitting there, yours for the taking." - Rod Serling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 "It's sitting there, yours for the taking." - Rod Serling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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