PromoTheRobot Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 This is my first post under my new Kunbuntu operating system. My daughter's friend is a Linux advocate. We had an old W98 machine he wiped and installed Kunbuntu on. I had another XP machine that I never used and installed a dual boot system on it. Let the journey of exploration and enlightenment begin. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Yea congrats. Ubuntu is really nice, and yeah if I was not so used to using windows myself, I would think of doing the same switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 congrats on your liberation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Indablanc Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 This is my first post under my new Kunbuntu operating system. My daughter's friend is a Linux advocate. We had an old W98 machine he wiped and installed Kunbuntu on. I had another XP machine that I never used and installed a dual boot system on it. Let the journey of exploration and enlightenment begin. PTR It is generally rude to ask people what they paid for something but this IS TSW so how much was it. Should it be a purloined copy feel free to ignore this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjeff215 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 It is generally rude to ask people what they paid for something but this IS TSW so how much was it. Should it be a purloined copy feel free to ignore this post. If he paid for it, his daughter's friend should go into sales. I stopped running Linux on my desktop at home. I did it for a few years, but I got sick of screwing with video drivers, patches, Windows emulators so I can run games, and so on and so forth. I've been using it professionally for about ten years now. It's not a question of ability or stability, I'm just lazy so I bought a Mac. I think about that stuff all day at work, the last thing I want to do is care about it when I get home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 If he paid for it, his daughter's friend should go into sales. Yup - it's free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 21, 2008 Author Share Posted April 21, 2008 If he paid for it, his daughter's friend should go into sales. I stopped running Linux on my desktop at home. I did it for a few years, but I got sick of screwing with video drivers, patches, Windows emulators so I can run games, and so on and so forth. I've been using it professionally for about ten years now. It's not a question of ability or stability, I'm just lazy so I bought a Mac. I think about that stuff all day at work, the last thing I want to do is care about it when I get home! My work machines are still PC and Macs. I just took a couple of older unused machines to experiment with Kubuntu Linux. Seems to work fine for just browsing the web and e-mail. I was told a WINE emulator program will allow me to run certain PC apps. We'll see. Yup - it's free. Damn right. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Indablanc Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Free as in downloaded or free cuz' somebody else had a copy? If the former please provide a link as I would like to try it out on one of my jack computers. If the latter please continue to ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjeff215 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 My work machines are still PC and Macs. I just took a couple of older unused machines to experiment with Kubuntu Linux. Seems to work fine for just browsing the web and e-mail. I was told a WINE emulator program will allow me to run certain PC apps. We'll see. PTR In all seriousness, the latest round of desktop Linux releases is actually quite good. Ubuntu and Fedora seem to lead the pack. They're both stable and pretty complete. They work fine for 99% of what people usually do: check email, browse the web, send instant messages, and so forth. USB drives work, cameras work, wireless works, and there are graphic configuration programs for just about anything you can imagine. I'm running Fedora 8 on this machine as I'm at work; I don't really have to think about the hardware or the system at all. It basically works out of the box. I spend 95% of my time switching between emacs buffers anyways. There are still a few gotchas. The biggest problem is that hardware vendors don't necessarily validate the Linux distributions on consumer class hardware. You wind up having to Google around to figure out exactly which option to pass at boot-up when using the latest and greatest whiz-bang gear 10-15% of the time or so. It's apparent in some applications that the developers aren't professional UI designers. Most of those problems are things only us nerds are going to catch. Now, if you had said you made the switch to OpenBSD on an old Alpha, I'd have been impressed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 I stopped running Linux on my desktop at home. I did it for a few years, but I got sick of screwing with video drivers, patches, Windows emulators so I can run games, and so on and so forth. I've been using it professionally for about ten years now. It's not a question of ability or stability, I'm just lazy so I bought a Mac. I think about that stuff all day at work, the last thing I want to do is care about it when I get home! Hardly have to do any messing with drivers anymore with the newer versions of ubuntu. Its getting much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjeff215 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Free as in downloaded or free cuz' somebody else had a copy? If the former please provide a link as I would like to try it out on one of my jack computers. If the latter please continue to ignore. http://www.ubuntu.org The other popular Desktop distribution is Fedora, though it's a bit more "edgy.' You can find that at www.fedoraproject.org. Ubuntu comes from the Debian base whereas Fedora is a Red Hat child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Indablanc Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 http://www.ubuntu.org The other popular Desktop distribution is Fedora, though it's a bit more "edgy.' You can find that at www.fedoraproject.org. Ubuntu comes from the Debian base whereas Fedora is a Red Hat child. Thanks MCJ. I'm going to give it a spin. I played with Red Hat a few years ago but was not impressed but time marches on and I'm ready to try it on a test system. BTW I am not far from you in Greenville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Free as in downloaded or free cuz' somebody else had a copy? If the former please provide a link as I would like to try it out on one of my jack computers. If the latter please continue to ignore. Phil, you need to familiarize yourself with what the Open Source community is all about. Software is (as it should be) free. Free to download and install. Free to improve upon and share with the community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 btw, mcjeff, our mutual acquaintances tell me youre "the man". and coming from those guys... pretty impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Indablanc Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Phil, you need to familiarize yourself with what the Open Source community is all about. Software is (as it should be) free. Free to download and install. Free to improve upon and share with the community. I'm coming out of a job as an IT specialist with a large corporation which was under constant BSA purview (Client Infrastucture Manager). Managing accurate license counts was a very high priority and we actively conducted verification on a regular basis. As a result I am some what hesitant with regards to "bootleg" software acquisition. Open source is cool but I am just warming up to the notions of what is above and what is below board but I am starting to come around. I was being a little bit lazy here in my request for the link but if it is truly open source then I agree with you 100%. I have found a lot of great stuff out there over my many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 I'm coming out of a job as an IT specialist with a large corporation which was under constant BSA purview (Client Infrastucture Manager). Managing accurate license counts was a very high priority and we actively conducted verification on a regular basis. As a result I am some what hesitant with regards to "bootleg" software acquisition. Open source is cool but I am just warming up to the notions of what is above and what is below board but I am starting to come around. I was being a little bit lazy here in my request for the link but if it is truly open source then I agree with you 100%. I have found a lot of great stuff out there over my many years. did you just refer to open source as "bootlegging"?? edit: i guess not. yes, Ubuntu is open source and a great one at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjeff215 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Thanks MCJ. I'm going to give it a spin. I played with Red Hat a few years ago but was not impressed but time marches on and I'm ready to try it on a test system. BTW I am not far from you in Greenville. My mother actually lives in Greenville, as does an aunt of mine. I like it quite a bit, most people are very nice. Lots of classic Southern charm. btw, mcjeff, our mutual acquaintances tell me youre "the man". and coming from those guys... pretty impressive. Tell 'em the check is in the mail! I'm coming out of a job as an IT specialist with a large corporation which was under constant BSA purview (Client Infrastucture Manager). Managing accurate license counts was a very high priority and we actively conducted verification on a regular basis. As a result I am some what hesitant with regards to "bootleg" software acquisition. Open source is cool but I am just warming up to the notions of what is above and what is below board but I am starting to come around. I was being a little bit lazy here in my request for the link but if it is truly open source then I agree with you 100%. I have found a lot of great stuff out there over my many years. It's amazing to me how much money still goes towards license tracking and whatnot. I've been through the same audits myself. Usually over dumb stuff.. perhaps someone installed a proprietary mail server on more systems than they should have. Now, the one damn thing the OSS folks have got to crank out... is a decent diagramming tool. Dia's nice and all, but... it's no Visio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Indablanc Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 did you just refer to open source as "bootlegging"?? edit: i guess not. yes, Ubuntu is open source and a great one at that. Correct in your edit. Open source is exactly what the name describes and I am all for it. I just loaded a copy of Gimp for my wife last week because I don't want to use a bootleg of Photoshop which could easily be obtained. (Freakin Catholic ethics are killing me here). My point is that I have worked as a coder in the past and I still respect the rights of intellectual property holders as I would expect that they respected mine. I just want to be a guy that doesn't mind seeing what he sees in the mirror when he shaves. No criticism here of you or anybody else. I really appreciate the information that I can gain from my fellow Bills compatriots. Your points are well taken and appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Indablanc Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 My mother actually lives in Greenville, as does an aunt of mine. I like it quite a bit, most people are very nice. Lots of classic Southern charm. I do like it. Half way between Hot 'Lanta and Charlotte, very close to the mountains and not far from the beach. I still own a property in Charleston but I don't get down there much so I'm thinking of selling it. I prefer the bit of hills here to the flats down there. Let me know if you are ever passing through Simpsonville. I would be happy to buy you a beer or two at the old Breakers/Fudds/House and talk some Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjeff215 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 I do like it. Half way between Hot 'Lanta and Charlotte, very close to the mountains and not far from the beach. I still own a property in Charleston but I don't get down there much so I'm thinking of selling it. I prefer the bit of hills here to the flats down there. Let me know if you are ever passing through Simpsonville. I would be happy to buy you a beer or two at the old Breakers/Fudds/House and talk some Bills. Will do! I'm up there every 6 months or so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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