jangalang Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Rivals Mock Can someone explain this to me? Talk about a reach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 No sir I cannot. That is one of the worst mocks I've ever seen too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huuuge Bills Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Rivals Mock Can someone explain this to me? Yeah, I saw this earlier. They had us taking Rivers in their previous mocks, so take it FWIW. They don't really explain their picks, so I don't know what the thinking is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Dan's Revenge Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I like Rivals as a website in general, but every mock I've seen from them this year seems pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playman Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 must be drug related. just look whos going after balmer. better value, greater needs. my bet is xtacy overdose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I like this one tho New England Patriots Pick forfeited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Remember, internet mocks tend to always give the Bills a bad pick because nobody cares about us. The name players tend to go to the popular teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Anyone check out that film on Quentin Groves???? Holy crap, that guy looks like the best defensive player available in this draft. Why is this guy getting no respect? Look at Harvey's reel, then check out Groves'. Harvey looks like a rather pedestrian pass rusher, while Groves looks like a ferocious beast chasing down the QB. Why do we want Harvey and not Groves again???? Bills should do themselves a big favor and trade down, grab Groves then pick up Kelly WR and Bennett TE with their two second rounders. Why is no one talking about this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Dan's Revenge Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Anyone check out that film on Quentin Groves???? Holy crap, that guy looks like the best defensive player available in this draft. Why is this guy getting no respect? Look at Harvey's reel, then check out Groves'. Harvey looks like a rather pedestrian pass rusher, while Groves looks like a ferocious beast chasing down the QB. Why do we want Harvey and not Groves again???? Bills should do themselves a big favor and trade down, grab Groves then pick up Kelly WR and Bennett TE with their two second rounders. Why is no one talking about this guy? I felt the same way when I watched the film on Groves and Harvey. As far as Harvey goes, all I saw on tape was their other end (#49, cant recall his name) wreaking havoc on opposing offenses and Harvey sort of coming in and cleaning up the mess if you will. Groves seems like he could be a difference maker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Rivals Mock Can someone explain this to me? Talk about a reach! One word: dartboard PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In space no one can hear Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Rivals Mock Can someone explain this to me? Talk about a reach! That mock makes me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I felt the same way when I watched the film on Groves and Harvey. As far as Harvey goes, all I saw on tape was their other end (#49, cant recall his name) wreaking havoc on opposing offenses and Harvey sort of coming in and cleaning up the mess if you will. Groves seems like he could be a difference maker. It's not even close. After looking at those two films, Groves looks to be the much better pass rusher and NFL player than Harvey. That guy looks like pro bowl material. Grove's name is never mentioned here, yet we still get twenty "draft Harvey" posts a day. Open your eyes people, Harvey's not even close to being as good as Groves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 It's not even close. After looking at those two films, Groves looks to be the much better pass rusher and NFL player than Harvey. That guy looks like pro bowl material. Grove's name is never mentioned here, yet we still get twenty "draft Harvey" posts a day. Open your eyes people, Harvey's not even close to being as good as Groves. probably Groves doesn't get mentioned because the punditry have declared him to be a 3-4 rush linebacker at the next level. Remember, it doesn't matter what all these people say - the scouts know who's actually better and whether a certain player can fit a certain scheme. Also Balmer only seems crazy because we have been fed the media mock drafts for months. He could be a way better prospect in pro scouts' eyes. Basically, none of us know much of anything other than somebody else's opinion that doesn't matter and is just as irrelevant, and a handful of highlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iommi Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I agree with the opinion of Groves over Harvey, though it may be the medical record that has teams concerned. Apparently Groves underwent surgery on March 27th, 2008 to treat his Wolff Parkinson White syndrome, which leads to irregular heart beats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I agree with the opinion of Groves over Harvey, though it may be the medical record that has teams concerned. Apparently Groves underwent surgery on March 27th, 2008 to treat his Wolff Parkinson White syndrome, which leads to irregular heart beats. Speaking of heart, it look like his heart is in playing football. Nothing meek or mild about the way he plays the game. Like I said before, Groves looks like so much better of a football player than Harvey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Anderson's Lunch Pail Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 It's not that much of a reach. I mean, we don't need a DT so badly that we'd have to take Balmer, but if we hadn't added Stroud I think that would have been as much an option at 11 as DRC, Thomas or Harvey. He'll probably be selected in the Top 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCCEO Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Groves is a bit of a workout warrior. He's also undersized, although probably a great fit at LB in 3-4 but his lack of experience is a concern. Even though he was Auburn's all-time sack leader he only had 3 last year , some question his motor and instincts, also not very good against the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Groves is a bit of a workout warrior. He's also undersized, although probably a great fit at LB in 3-4 but his lack of experience is a concern. Even though he was Auburn's all-time sack leader he only had 3 last year , some question his motor and instincts, also not very good against the run. yes I agree - two different type players- Harvey will start out backing up at both RE and LE and he athletic enough to drop back occasionally but when he totally matures physically he will be a LE who is good against the run and can still generate good pressure and get 8-10 sacks - Groves starts off as a pass rush specialist or a 3-4 OLB - if he can get stronger and hold more weight he might be able to play RE full time- he is a fantastic athlete and he could get a lot of sacks like Wares or Merrimen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Groves is a bit of a workout warrior. He's also undersized, although probably a great fit at LB in 3-4 but his lack of experience is a concern. Even though he was Auburn's all-time sack leader he only had 3 last year , some question his motor and instincts, also not very good against the run. Did you take a look at his video? As far as size, he's two inches taller and only 10 pounds lighter than Dwight Freeney. I question Harvey's motor, not Groves, after watching both videos. I think a lot of teams are going to be sorry they passed on this guy, especially those that take Harvey and Merling before him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 No sir I cannot. That is one of the worst mocks I've ever seen too. A mock to be mocked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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