Dawgg Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I was flying from Dallas to Indy and he was on my flight, along with his son Wesley. Very nice dude... reminisced about Buffalo and looks forward to the upcoming season. I told him that we Bills fans would love to have him back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 not nice to lie to someone..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I'd take him back as a DC anyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ektin Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Maybe he would bring back Chris Watson and I could bring my Puntcatcher jersey out of storage:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dib Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Wade flies coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Wade and the Bills should have never parted ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Wade should have never stuck his neck out for his buddy Ronnie Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 Yep... he actually had a pretty crappy seat... very last row near the bathroom! Wade flies coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Wade should have never stuck his neck out for his buddy Ronnie Jones. or fired Bruce Dehaven in the first place for his own failings, or hired Joe Pendry to run the offense ........ Yet, people will sit around and think about just how "great" Wade was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackur Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Yep... he actually had a pretty crappy seat... very last row near the bathroom! Just the way Jerry Jones does it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 or fired Bruce Dehaven in the first place for his own failings, or hired Joe Pendry to run the offense ........ Yet, people will sit around and think about just how "great" Wade was. Say what you will, he had the best record in Buffalo Bills history -- even without the headphones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 He made a mistake in hiring Ronnie Jones, no doubt... but it certainly shouldn't overshadow all the good things he did as head coach. I would take him over GW, Mularkey and Jauron anyday. Say what you will, he had the best record in Buffalo Bills history -- even without the headphones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Jauron's only had 1 season Think about this...if Wade had been here, we would've had a repeat of 2005 with all the QB jerking around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 I love Jauron as a head coach, don't get me wrong... and as I've said before, the QB inconsistency was due more to Ralph than the head coach. Ralph Wilson invested $25M in Rob Johnson and was impatient to see what the kid had, even though the team was winning with Flutie. Wade and the staff (and the entire team) wanted Flutie in there as the starter... Wade had his shortcomings, I just think that they were way overblown and he didn't get much credit for the good things he did. Jauron's only had 1 season Think about this...if Wade had been here, we would've had a repeat of 2005 with all the QB jerking around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Is there an article that talks about how it was Ralph who pushed for Johnson to be the starter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I love Jauron as a head coach, don't get me wrong... and as I've said before, the QB inconsistency was due more to Ralph than the head coach. Ralph Wilson invested $25M in Rob Johnson and was impatient to see what the kid had, even though the team was winning with Flutie. Wade and the staff (and the entire team) wanted Flutie in there as the starter... Wade had his shortcomings, I just think that they were way overblown and he didn't get much credit for the good things he did. You got a link? Considering that Ralph was behind a contract extension for Flutie that paid him more annually than Johnson was getting Rob's deal was 5 years, $25M=$5M per year Doug's deal was 4 years, $22M=$5.5M per year your assertion is kinda ridiculous. Ralph loved Flutie...Butler was the guy behind the RJ deal, not Ralph. Flutie was already under contract in 99...the 2nd year of a 2 year, $575K contract Think logically...Ralph pushed for a deal that dramatically increased Flutie's salary but he wanted him benched? Give me a break, already. Is there an article that talks about how it was Ralph who pushed for Johnson to be the starter? No...and I've been asking for one for years everytime someone makes that ridiculous assertion. All we know is that Ralph approved the switch...everything else is mere conjecture....some of it conceived out of blind love for the diminutive one and hatred for Ralph. Here's my take: Flutie struggled mightily in the middle parts of the season : fact...poor decision-making, poor throws, held onto the ball and ran for a few yards rather than throw to wide open WRs either due to a need to hog the spotlight or due to the fact that his arm was like a wet noodle Considering that Ralph had been the one who pushed for that deal, it was obvious to Wade that Ralph would get upset if he were benched. When the defense helped ensure our spot in the playoffs, Wade made the switch, under the guise of giving Flutie a rest. Johnson performed well that day and Wade received permission from Ralph to make the switch. Of course the timing sucked...not only because we were in the playoffs but also because Flutie had started playing better the previous few games before the benching. I've yet to find anyone willing to try to refute that with anything factual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 You got a link? Considering that Ralph was behind a contract extension for Flutie that paid him more annually than Johnson was getting Rob's deal was 5 years, $25M=$5M per year Doug's deal was 4 years, $22M=$5.5M per year your assertion is kinda ridiculous. Ralph loved Flutie...Butler was the guy behind the RJ deal, not Ralph. Flutie was already under contract in 99...the 2nd year of a 2 year, $575K contract Think logically...Ralph pushed for a deal that dramatically increased Flutie's salary but he wanted him benched? Give me a break, already. I don't have a link, but I believe that this was a rumour at the time, and it was later confirmed by AJ Smith, of all people...for what it is worth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I don't have a link, but I believe that this was a rumour at the time, and it was later confirmed by AJ Smith, of all people...for what it is worth... Yeah...AJ Smith...whose buddy John Butler left after refusing to negotiate a contract extension (causing speculation that the Chargers and Butler had already been talking)...the same AJ Smith who wouldn't even interview for the GM job that Butler left in Buffalo.. Yeah...his word is worth a lot it's worth the toilet paper that I used a few hours ago Simple common sense should tell anyone that AJ was full of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Did Flutie play ST's (at the time, given his "history-making" drop-kick in 2005)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted February 24, 2007 Author Share Posted February 24, 2007 Here's a link. For what it's worth, Wade has also told me himself that he wanted to keep Flutie in there and the entire coaching staff (including then QB coach Turk Schonert) was not high on Rob Johnson at that point. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Flutie Flutie led the Bills to a 10-5 record in 1999 but, in a controversial decision, was replaced by Rob Johnson for the playoffs by coach Wade Phillips, who later said he was under orders from Bills owner Ralph Wilson to do so. The Bills lost 22-16 to the eventual AFC Champion Tennessee Titans in a game that has become known for the Music City Miracle, where the Titans scored on the final play of the game - a kickoff return following the Bills' apparent game-clinching field goal. After the season had ended, Coach Phillips 2000 Flutie was named the Bills' backup and only played late in games or when Johnson was injured, which was often. In fact during the season, Flutie had a 4-1 record as a starter, in comparison to Johnson's 4-7. You got a link? Considering that Ralph was behind a contract extension for Flutie that paid him more annually than Johnson was getting Rob's deal was 5 years, $25M=$5M per year Doug's deal was 4 years, $22M=$5.5M per year your assertion is kinda ridiculous. Ralph loved Flutie...Butler was the guy behind the RJ deal, not Ralph. Flutie was already under contract in 99...the 2nd year of a 2 year, $575K contract Think logically...Ralph pushed for a deal that dramatically increased Flutie's salary but he wanted him benched? Give me a break, already. No...and I've been asking for one for years everytime someone makes that ridiculous assertion. All we know is that Ralph approved the switch...everything else is mere conjecture....some of it conceived out of blind love for the diminutive one and hatred for Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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