MartyBall4Buffalo Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Ok so Bernard Pollard rookie chiefs safety blocks a sd punt, but the ball is beyond the los and since sd recovers Sd gets posession and it's 1st and 10 sd even though the chiefs blocked the punt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Ok so Bernard Pollard rookie chiefs safety blocks a sd punt, but the ball is beyond the los and since sd recovers Sd gets posession and it's 1st and 10 sd even though the chiefs blocked the punt? 870037[/snapback] I was going to say the same thing. What a bunch of crap that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOOOOOO Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Ok so Bernard Pollard rookie chiefs safety blocks a sd punt, but the ball is beyond the los and since sd recovers Sd gets posession and it's 1st and 10 sd even though the chiefs blocked the punt? 870037[/snapback] Well after it was blocked...a KC guy tried to pick it up and run...but bobbled it away...which = a fumble.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catholic Guilt Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Ok so Bernard Pollard rookie chiefs safety blocks a sd punt, but the ball is beyond the los and since sd recovers Sd gets posession and it's 1st and 10 sd even though the chiefs blocked the punt? 870037[/snapback] Yeah what a stupid call. Then San Diego goes 85 yards the next play and scores. they got screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBilliever Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 YOOOO made the right point, if it was just let go it was over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Ok so Bernard Pollard rookie chiefs safety blocks a sd punt, but the ball is beyond the los and since sd recovers Sd gets posession and it's 1st and 10 sd even though the chiefs blocked the punt? 870037[/snapback] But the difference was that a KC player touched the ball past the line of scrimmage, didn't control it, and a SD player recovered it. Because the KC player didn't control the ball, it's exactly like a fumble and SD recovers it. This is exactly like the play where Leon Lett touched the ball after a blocked FG attempt (Thanksgiving Day, 1993 vs Miami) and Miami recovered and then kicked the winning FG. Why Herm Edwards was arguing the play is beyond me - that was the right call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 (edited) Well after it was blocked...a KC guy tried to pick it up and run...but bobbled it away...which = a fumble.... 870045[/snapback] How does touching a ball = possession? I think based on the fact that the ball was blocked behind the line of scrimmage, that should negate the punt rules for that play. Just a bad rule IMO. Edited December 18, 2006 by Faustus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 its the same as when a punt returner muffs a punt the punt went beyond the line of scrimmage even thugh it was blocked and a KC player muffed it and San Diego recovered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOOOOOO Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 How does touching a ball = possession? 870051[/snapback] because it was a punt.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 How is that a stupid rule? SD gets off a semi-successful punt (it DID cross the LOS), KC tries to field said punt, but muffs it, SD recovers. Lack of awareness &/or a poor gamble by the KC guy; they could've just let the ball die right there & have possesion there. Leon Lett, is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 i was amazed that Madden and Michaels were that confused about what happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Ok so Bernard Pollard rookie chiefs safety blocks a sd punt, but the ball is beyond the los and since sd recovers Sd gets posession and it's 1st and 10 sd even though the chiefs blocked the punt? 870037[/snapback] Exactly. The KC player didn't fumble that ball because he never had possesion and the ball never advanced past the 1st down marker. I can bet you this rule will change quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBilliever Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 ya know how if on a punt if it bounces off someones leg its fair game? Bingo. Doesn't need possession, just needs to touch it to make it live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOOOOOO Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 How does touching a ball = possession? I think based on the fact that the ball was blocked behind the line of scrimmage, that should negate the punt rules for that play. Just a bad rule IMO. 870051[/snapback] its not though...?? what if a guy its a hand on it and flutters up in the air and lands one yard past the LOS... Do you then consider that a punt or not?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Exactly. The KC player didn't fumble that ball because he never had possesion and the ball never advanced past the 1st down marker. I can bet you this rule will change quickly. 870063[/snapback] no it won't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 The last 3 Charger games I've seen (Raiders, Bills, Chiefs) they've received some Patriot-like calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted December 18, 2006 Author Share Posted December 18, 2006 How is that a stupid rule?SD gets off a semi-successful punt (it DID cross the LOS), KC tries to field said punt, but muffs it, SD recovers. Lack of awareness &/or a poor gamble by the KC guy; they could've just let the ball die right there & have possesion there. Leon Lett, is that you? 870057[/snapback] To be honest I didnt see the kc guy try to field it. Still it bothers me it's only sd's ball because it was past the los if that was behind the los it would've been KC's ball. I think that in itself is a stupid rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taterhill Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 you guys are fools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOOOOOO Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Exactly. The KC player didn't fumble that ball because he never had possesion and the ball never advanced past the 1st down marker. I can bet you this rule will change quickly. 870063[/snapback] What does the 1st down marker have to do with anything??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Exactly. The KC player didn't fumble that ball because he never had possesion and the ball never advanced past the 1st down marker. I can bet you this rule will change quickly. 870063[/snapback] If a punt goes past the line of scrimmage, it's a punt, no matter if it's partially blocked or not, so the normal rules are followed, including the fact that if the receiving team muffs it, it's a live ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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